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Got a Mac - finally

Posted: Mon, 6th Oct 2003, 11:33pm

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Magic_man12

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Hey all

not that anyone cares THAT much haha
finally got a mac

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2757285739&category=51035&rd=1

i know its not the BEST but hey

any comments on it?

(yes i plan to upgrade the ram haha)

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 12:52am

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Whee.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 12:54am

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not bad, hope u have an external hd.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 1:01am

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yeah 80 gigs thank god haha

Mecha

my thoughts exactly

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 1:06am

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u still have to pay for it...


well, thats what it says biggrin
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 7:36am

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DUDE, MACS SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAHAHA!!!!!

*backs away slowly, anticipating a backlash...*
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 7:41am

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We all know you only said that because you're seeking attention.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 7:47am

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HAHAHAHAH!!!!! YOU SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!

*again stepping away, fearing backlash, none comes*
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 11:08am

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WAAACHAA!

there is a backlash... tard

ohhh brother...


i personally dont prefer macs, but what ever u want. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 11:12am

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Erm, don't get it...

Thats an old Mac and if it indeed runs at 1.2GHz then its got a processor upgrade which won't be by Apple and therefore might not run OSX. Even if it does it won't run it fast due to the out of date Graphics Card.

You should be able to get out of it as he hasn't said its a processor upgrade machine. It really isn't worth getting a Mac thats been played with - if you need some more information come and talk to me on fxhome chat.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 2:37pm

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I would definitely check into the processor. Apple did not create a 1.2 ghz
model in that form factor (charcoal tower).
Also, like Schwar said, there are often incompatibilities with new OSes
and third party processor upgrades.

For that kind of price, you may wish to look at a brand new eMac.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 3:59pm

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You got a good buy, trust me. I've worked with Macs every day of my life, and know almost everything. Let me tell you again, be very thankful (I would give my left leg for what you have).

Your okay right now with processor speed, harddrive space, and RAM. I've got a 800MHz G4 iMac with only 512MB of memory, and a 80 GB hd. Yet with this slow thing, I'm making out great. You won't have a problem with anything, as long as you a) Don't make a Hollywood Movie or b)have a shared account with a family member.

S.D.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 4:53pm

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The problem is that the machines has been changed. Only the Quicksilver machines came with processors beyond 1GHz so it has to be a third party processor upgrade none of which are supported by Apple and MacOSX. Some processor upgrade companies supply up-to-date drivers for each revision of Mac OS X to keep their upgrades going, some do not. In my experience support doesn't normally last that long.

The other problem is that Mac OS X really requires a modern ATI or Nvidia card to run well as the whole GUI is run in OpenGL via the Quartz Extreme engine - this Mac only has an old Rage card which means your won't have a hardware accelerated GUI.

I've been working on and programming Macs for over 17 years and I was at one point an Apple authorised engineer. I also sold Apple computers for several years - I'm not a PC person trying to put you off, I'm just trying to point you in the best direction. For this money you could easily get a Quicksilver Mac which would be a much better investment.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 5:30pm

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Schwar made a good point, but like they say, computers aren't an investment. They'll always be a bigger and better computer. I mean, look at the G5 right now. By the end of 2004, Apple said they will have increased the speed of the G5 by 1.5 . Oh well. At least you have a computer that is reasonably fast compared to some others (I mean, come on! 98 and OS 9 are dead, forever!)


S.D.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 9:49pm

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Guess i should have asked before eh? because im kind of screwed into it now that ive won the auction

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:09pm

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You said i should be able to get out of it because he didn't say it was a processor upgraded machine?

would that allow me to get out of it?

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:18pm

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If they don't state all the facts, and you haven't paid your money yet then don't pay and tell them you think it was unfair that they didn't state the full spec of the machine and that it had been changed.

Just make sure you don't send any money.
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:19pm

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Yeah it should...E-mail ebay and tell them that the guy never specified that he upgraded the processor and that the upgrade processor can have grave effects on the operating system and the computer as a whole...and you refuse to pay...ebay will let the seller know...and you will be done with it...

Canta unsure
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:24pm

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email sent

Hello

I was the high bidder in this auction
item #2757285739

I wish to retract my bid. I have found out today that this maching has had a processor upgrade. A processor upgrade on this maching would not have been done by apple, therefore there is a good possibilty that I cannot upgrade this system to MAC OSX.

I would like to retract my bid for reason of not knowing the processor has been changed by a third party - information i did not know( and was not stated by the seller in the auction) until after the auction ended

Thank you for your time

-Kyle Chappell


I had a feeling i should have asked people on here first........

now ive learned

yet another reason this is a GREAT community

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:32pm

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you spelled machine wrong twice..

Canta unsure
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 10:34pm

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EXCELLENT! eek

well...good to know i can check over my stuff


haha

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 7th Oct 2003, 11:10pm

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Fingers crossed you can cancel the bid, majicman...let us know how it goes.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 2:38am

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if u cant, ill talk to fingerman to see what he can do about it..
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 3:14am

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Technically you can just not send payment, then leave negative feedback on the situation to explain your reasoning. There is no law binding you to the purchase wink
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 4:15am

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well i THINK it said somewhere that its a legally binding contract - BUT

if ebay doesn't let me retract the bid - then i will just ask the guy say i crashed my car and have no money or something

if not....

i am only 17.....
"I lied about my age i am not 18 - therefore i cannot be held to any legal contracts as a minor"


haha...maybe


-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 4:17am

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No, your not bound to the item in any way. My mother runs an antique store and half her business is through selling things on Ebay. People, for one reason or other, don't pay up all the time. As long as you leave feedback concerning the issue, there shouldn't be any problem with it at all. Goodluck smile
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 4:43am

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Thanks Flip

I would also like to say THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! to schwar who kind of showed me my stupidity..... tard

hopefully this will all work out good then i can look at NEW emacs on the APPLE website....hahaha


-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:07am

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Let us know what you need a Mac for and I'm sure we'll all be happy to advise the best machines for you to get smile
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 5:00pm

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Hey

My reason for wanting a mac is basically for school. I can get access to software (fcp4 - photoshop - protools free (that wont run on windows XP) from my school, therefore having a mac at home would help me alot - for example a live an hour and a half away from my school. I have a video project worth 50% of my grade in my video course. It is much easier for me to work on it at home than it is to travel and work at school, and work on it until 10pm at the latest, when i home i can work on it till 6 am haha.

Capturing video from a DVX 100 (probably done at school, but i can do that on my pc if not)

We use G5's at school, but i think that might be a little too much money for me to get at this time lol


thanks

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 5:12pm

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Something that would help me, help you would be to know
how much money are you going to spend.

You may want to get an external Firewire hard drive too, which
would allow you to work on your projects at home and work.
This is what I do. I render and capture my stuff to my Firewire
drive. I make sure to set it up as my scratch disk though.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:00pm

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Yes i have an 80 gig external firewire/USB 2.0 hardrive which im loving


willing to spend....dont quite know yet.....
1500-2500 canadian probably - which is limiting, but possible (education discount)

Im probably looking into an emac..i think a g4 1ghz emac 512 mb ram is like 1600 canadian after tax

Im open to pretty much any suggestions

thanks

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:05pm

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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2757016378&category=51035

Something like that would be better than an eMac. All Quicksilver G4s were great machines.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:55pm

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Yeah, all of the Quicksilvers are great for video editing. If you can't get a really good deal on it, try to find the iMac 17inch on ebay. I bought the high end 15 inch superdrive (the 17inch weren't out at the time) model, and I find it great for video editing and special effects. Even shake runs pretty damn fast on it. My only gripe is the lack of screen space. The issue becomes apparent when I'm modelling something in Maya or editing video in FCP. Nontheless, it's a very good machine.

Good luck with your mac purchase!
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 2:04am

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Hey


I have gotten out of the e-bay purchase i had gotten into
he was willing to relist the item

Thank You Schwar for informing me!!!!!!!

Im back to looking @ mac's on e-bay and on the site

Wondering if a powerbook would be good.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2759121529&category=14909

or should i stick with a desktop (I currently have a desktop PC - therefore a powerbook would help with bringing it to school etc)

thanks for all the replies

-MAGIC
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 9:02am

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Its really only worth having a laptop as a second machine. Unless you can afford the large screen models you'll always be wanting for desktop space. You'll also find that laptop have slower and smaller hard drives, and although they are quick enough for DV they don't feel as fast as the desktop machines.

I would still say the best and cheapest way to go is a 933MHz + Quicksilver G4.