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Power Corps. Feature version Trailer

Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 12:14pm

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This is the long awaited trailer for the feature version of Power Corps.

Since it's a trailer, it is more story oriented this time, as opposed to the teaser I posted before.

A lot of work is being done on this project (and a lot more is to come) so your comments are truly appreciated.

Do not miss the cameo appearances of fellow FXhomers b4uask, KermZ and the ever ubiquitous Sollthar...

Note: This trailer contains brief nudity.
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Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 12:53pm

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Very good as always! Very very good work.

Shadu
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GET RID OF THE NUDITY!!!!! IT RUINS MOVIES
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 1:14pm

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It did seem somewhat redundant, i watched that bit over and over again (to analyse..uh...the camera work) but really couldn't understand what was going on.

Having said that, boobs rule! ssjaaron - put up or shut up, you prude!
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 1:49pm

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Actually, if you ask me, i liked the first one a lot better.. but thats probably just me. razz

Oh, and ssjaaron, if your a 15-year-old guy and you don't like boobs, then you must be lying about your age or overrecting.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 2:00pm

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The first movie I posted, the original, was a teaser. This is a trailer, made in order to give more of an idea of the story. Some people liked the first one better, some like this one better. It's all subjective I guess! smile

As for the nudity debate, well, most low budget movie need it when you don't have a star (look at the bottom shelf of your video store - anything that's not financed by a studio has some in 90% of the cases - except children movies - Heck! Even the studio movies do it sometimes!). In our case it was a request of the financing and I think we did it tasteffully and integrated it within the story in a manner that is not gratuitous (although I agree that it may be hard to judge just from the trailer). And I happen to like that scene very much. It turned out great and very visually interesting (no pun intended) but you will have to wait and see the movie to understand what I mean... Hehehehe.

In any case, thanks for taking the time to comment. It is appreciated.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 3:44pm

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A good movie must have a couple of boobs!

I like it, Looks really nice! Well, there isnt anything bad i can say really. One thing that is kinda funny, Sollthar?! He is everywhere! Also nice to see Ian in some action wink

Great work
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 4:08pm

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This looks like it is going to be a good movie for the budget that you have. It sort of has that feel of the Japanese movie, JUNK, but with soldiers instead of gangsters.

The lighting is nice especially finding out how you did it. The makeup effects are done very well, which is how I got into film.

Sound is crisp and clear as well as the image. I really liked the shot of the soldier standing against that sunset-like backdrop sky, very nice.

Can't wait for this one.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 4:10pm

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why is everyone freaking out over the boobs? I mean yes there good but why not talk about the other parts of the movies. I happened to really enjoy the explosion effects and the part near the end when the back of the guys head blows open! WOOOOO!!!
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 5:08pm

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Definitely cool stuff.


As for the boobies :
grow up kids, female anatomy is a part of life that you're going to have to deal with. so unless you plan on making a world wide crusade to lop women's breasts off, you're just going to have to accept the reality that women have breasts, will always have breasts, and that that's not a bad thing.

besides, if you try and go on a world wide crusade to cut of women's boobs, I'll kill you. wink
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 5:10pm

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Hey


im ABOUT to watchit...

nudity in films is alright no big deal
never seen it in a trailer before........

we shall see
time to watch


-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 6:54pm

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Hey

Looks Great! love the costumes - kinda hard to get the story from this - it tells you more about it, but not too many specifics - guess that can be a good thing tho

the nudity is no big deal to me...makes it better haha..maybe
doesn't make sense in a trailor though.....well you dont see it as much anyway


overall it looks great - looking forward to see it

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:18pm

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yea i agree, i dont have a problem lookin at a pair believe u me haha, but i dont think it should be in the trailer, or any trailer unless the rating was X. I mean.. u didnt see kate topless in the titanic trailer or that girl in with the 3 boobs in total recall in the trailer haha, u get my point. Anyways, everything else in the trailer looks nice tho.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:43pm

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The trailer is meant to give you a basic idea of what will be happening but not too much! The whole point is to interest you in seeing the film but not giving it up! So my goal was to peak people's interest in seeing the film without revealing too much, so you feel it's pointless to watch final film, like too many trailers do nowadays! I don't want a 2 minutes resume of the film, I want to be excited about it! That's my opinion! smile

As for the nudity, as stated before, it's part of life. It's integrated in the storyline. It's one of the attractions of the film in my opinion, and it was requested by our financiers so we sort of had no choice in the matter. I asked CSB if they were ok with it, they said yes (after reviewing it) and here we go! The rating if 18+ and in my book it's the equivalent of an X...

Enjoy!

C.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 7:50pm

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I go away for a few days and when I come back I find that you've released the full trailer ya bastard! wink

Unfortunately I can't download it at the moment, as I'm on a 56k and I fear that anymore stress on my model will cause it to melt. However next week broadband arrives, then I shall give you my opinion.

Cheers.
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very cool. But i wanna see the full thing...i think it will be better than the trailers...... biggrin excellent job, cant wait to see more.

oh, and bout the nudity....... WHO CARES! IT WAS (sorta) IN THE MATRIX RELOADED, DID ANYONE PITCH A FIT THERE? NO....



anyway, good luck with Power Corps ! cool
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ssjaaron wrote:

GET RID OF THE NUDITY!!!!! IT RUINS MOVIES
I agree.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:00pm

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he does have no choice........and because the nudity fits in, then thats OK. if it was just for show mainly....i would get rid of it...its like cursing in the newer cartoon movies....its just for show, to get teenagers to see them...etc.

just my opinion...

but then again, what 15 year old boy would not wanna see that..... biggrin biggrin biggrin
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people did sort of put up a fuss about the nudity in Reloaded. . . . well, just the bit's about Neo's ass.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:07pm

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hehe, really?

cool


oink
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:09pm

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AndrewtheActorMan wrote:

but then again, what 15 year old boy would not wanna see that..... biggrin biggrin biggrin
ssjaaron.

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Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:12pm

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oh, and bout the nudity....... WHO CARES! IT WAS (sorta) IN THE MATRIX RELOADED, DID ANYONE PITCH A FIT THERE? NO....
Uh... we're talking about a trailer here.

Hey, this film looks like it's going to be great. But I just have one gripe with these trailers. They're all practically the same. They show nice silent bits to begin and then show a million different images of the action to finish the viewer off. So, not what I was expecting from a "full trailer".

But it still looks great.

Adam.

P.S. Breasts in a trailer? Hmm... Your finiancier asked for it to be in the trailer!? eek
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:12pm

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We have given the movie an age rating of 18+, and it quite clearly says that it contains nudity. If a 15 year old boy didn't want to see nudity he shouldn't have clicked the link.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:13pm

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ggbros wrote:

AndrewtheActorMan wrote:

but then again, what 15 year old boy would not wanna see that..... biggrin biggrin biggrin
ssjaaron.
um....who else?
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:17pm

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I agree with him, just because a woman's body is beautiful does not mean she has to show everyone. If you guys really liked women you would respect them, and not only care about their boobs.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:19pm

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it does mean she has to show it when the distribution company he's making this movie for says she does.
this isn't his choice. it was required that it be in there for him to get some funding to make this movie. lay off.
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trust me, i am not trying to get an arguement about womans breasts...just saying that it isnt always needed....but if it is...it is.... smile
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Ice_Man wrote:

it does mean she has to show it when the distribution company he's making this movie for says she does.
this isn't his choice. it was required that it be in there for him to get some funding to make this movie. lay off.
Look, I am just stating my opinion. And if that's a problem, then don't read my posts.
Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2003, 8:24pm

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and if it's a problem for you to see women's breasts, then don't watch this trailer.
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Opinions are fine. You don't like breasts. But the main point is that they HAD TO BE in the film because it was REQUIRED. No questions about it.
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Ice_Man wrote:

and if it's a problem for you to see women's breasts, then don't watch this trailer.
It's not a problem to see a women's breasts, it's the way in which they are seen. I am never going to meet this women, she has no connection with me, so why would I want to look at her in a way meant for someone else?
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wow. I can't believe I just read that.
"Why would I want to look at her in a way meant for someone else"

Whatever, kid. the pure naivety of that just flabbergasts me beyond the capacity for further comment.
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I am never going to meet this women, she has no connection with me, so why would I want to look at her in a way meant for someone else?
Do say that about all the women in films that show a little flesh now and then, ggbros? If so...whoa. Weird. crazy eek tard confused neutral
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adamlightandmagic wrote:

I am never going to meet this women, she has no connection with me, so why would I want to look at her in a way meant for someone else?
Do say that about all the women in films that show a little flesh now and then, ggbros? If so...whoa. Weird. crazy eek tard confused neutral
Pretty much redface
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Wow I can't believe I just said all that.... confused
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Don't worry son, they'll drop some day. biggrin
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LOL Iceman!
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To adamlightandmagic, the answer to your question about distributor wanting to have nudity in the trailer is YES!

Although I am allowed to do as I please with what I put up on FXhome, I did ask Tarn beforehand if it was okay and offered to replace the shot if it was going to be a problem. As stated before, they reviewed the clip and said "Yeah, we don't have any problems with the content of the trailer. It's all tastefully done and nothing comes across as gratuitous, so it should be fine."

I never thought on my LIFE than 34 frames of breasts would cause such a stir! I am shocked to be honest! BTW, I have a trailer of Total Recall that shows the three breasted lady. Trailer for Wild Things showed nudity. Same with the Desperado trailer (albeit very briefly), not too mention another Rodriguez flick where you could see glimpse of the strippers from the Titty Twister in the trailer. Those are studios pictures. Nudity and sexual relations are part of life! And I can think of a few more (but the names escape me- but at this rate, I'll sure make a list to prove my point!)

As for your gripe, I did a trailer that was different and the feedback I got was that it contained only the "new" footage and people wanted em to include mroe of the "old stuff" we shot in May... So I did an hybrid version. Also a lot of my CG effects aren't quite ready so I reused a few of the old ones that are already done. The trailer states what the story is about:

"Galactic Marines...best unit in the galaxy"... Our protagonists...

"Our job is to reckon colony factories...taken over by the Ma'hars"... The mission...

"For all we know...turned into cyborgs"... What we think happened...

"The Ma'hars are behind all this?" over shot of a massacre... tells you some of what they found...

"Nobody has ever seen a Ma'har before" tells us how much they really know about it...

Then I proceed to show you some of their misadventures, starting with the steel mites, that starts a series of shots to show you who and what is in the movie while still showing you a bit of what they will face...

Then I introduce the main actors...

Then they fight zombies, a werewolf and then vampires...

Then over credits the guys says: Zombies, werewolves, vampires? What's next? Frankeinstein or the Mummy?"

Meaning that if you want to know what's next, you got to see the movie.

A trailer has always been a taste of what's to come. I know Hollywood sometimes makes 5 minutes long trailers that tell you the whole film but those movies usually suck so they do those trailers in the hope people will go because of the story. I stand behind my visuals and I think they are strong enough to attract an audience- and the story was strong enough to attract financing!

As far as trailers are concerned, what you said about mine applies to almost all of them! Example: The Matrix Revolution trailer. What do we learn from it?

Big battle on Zion, Neo meets the head computer. Trinity is alive! Smith went rogue and they'll fight in the rain. the rest is as you put it: "They show nice silent bits to begin and then show a million different images of the action to finish the viewer off."

Every trailer is the same...

Cheers!
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I just don't think they all have to be that way. Do you?
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The person who was naked in the film is a professional actress. She was paid for her role, albeit not much, as were all the other actors. She plays a character who is in love with another character. They have sex because that's what people in love do sometimes. Even when they are not in love. It's natural and part of life otherwise none of us would be there. I can't beleive I have to write this! BTW, this movie is supposed to be 18+ and rated as such!

The scene was performed under the strict guidelines of the Canadian Actor's union, ACTRA. It was done in total respect of the performers. And I tried to integrate it in the storyline so it wouldn't be gratuitous.

Anyways, can we talk about something else?
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Don't bring it back up then.
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so, how about those pyrotechnics, John? tell us a bit about those. biggrin
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PLZ I SAW THE FIRST TRAILER AND WAS EXCITED..........but now i am disipointed with you....i looked forward to this movie but now i am not going to even watch it JUST BECAUSE IT HAVE NUDITY
FIRST OFF RESPECT A WOMEN
SECOND OFF A WASTE OF THE MOVIE
THIRD OFF IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT NASTY STUFF PUT IN ANOTHER WEBSITE
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Who can say, overreacting? Get a grip dude.
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adamlightandmagic,

You are right that they shouldn't all be like that but I happen to think that it works very well for action films and it's what I felt was right for this particular film.

As for my answer or the nude stuff - I was writing my previous post when I read the whole ggbros debate so I felt I should answer. Thread closed as far as I am concerned.

As for Pyro, I do my own usually, except the big stuff. I have my degree in Chemistry so I use it for movies.
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yeah, I read that in the spotlight (about your chem degree)

what sorts of goodies do you use? I have no formal chemistry background, so I usually end up using Pyrodex squibs off a nail board
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Well, most of the time we use black poweder with gasoline for the fire explosions and gunpoweder (about 2 ounces) with cement mix for the grenades explosions.
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How would someone like myself, who has no knowledge of this stuff, go about getting more involved in these types of effects?
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How much gasoline to how much black powder for the fire explosions? if you don't mind me asking?

I would like to get more into physical pyrotechnic effects for my future projects, hence my curiousity

That, and everynow and then, it's fun to go with a bunch of buddies to an open field area out in the middle of nowhere and blow sh*t up.

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Well, the black powder is hard to find - some places you need a license I think. I don't really want ot tell you online in case there are kids. Just PM me and I'll explain. Don't want to be responsible for somebody blowing their heads off!
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I am good with alam splosians. Well until I get my hands on real explosians.

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good for you. working with alam explosions like that. I'm proud of you razz
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John Carter you continue to impress me! This trailer is alot better than your teaser since it shows more of the movie. I am now very excited to view it!
The effects were cool! Especially the explosions!

Keep it up!
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I thought it was cool, liked the 1st one better just because it was faster, wanting more and hade good music. In this one it showed more and i liked that, the breasts seemed kinda outa placed, kinda like you through them in just to get those teens and preteens to watch it also. Im not saying i didnt like the breasts lol but anyways, this forum has hade enough chat about the breasts. IT looks good, hope to see more soon
jessy
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I have seen it before and I still I am amazed about this production. I must say you got me most with your costumes. Your costumes are just friggin fantastic!

I can't really tell you how happy I am for you and how impressed I am that you can pull of a movie like this! Some shots look fantastic!


I must agree though that I liked the first teaser most. I can't exactly put my finger on why, but the first Trailer looked more expensive to me even. smile

I'd say some of the shots could do with some additional colorgrading, but I'm sure you're going to do that anyways. wink


Kudos to you Christian!


Oh, and I have no problem with boobs. Especially when they're so nice... wink You must tell me sometime how you got her to do this. smile
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got a suggestion bout the color grading...try giving the footage a little less frames.....sumthen bout it, but some stuff looks too "clean" and "smooth"

donno.


maybe a little darker look too
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Hey Sollthar!

Thanks for your comments. From you, it means a lot. And putting things back on track on this thread is nice for a change.

I must agree with you that the first trailer looked maybe more expensive - maybe because we had less money and tried harder to make it look huge and expensive - and we slacked off once we got cash? I dunno. The quality of light has changed from May to August I noticed as well and since we were dependant a lot on the natural lighting, it did affect the look somewhat. Maybe also it's because not all the action was happening at that location. That location is production value all by itself. Must agree with you with color grading. Plenty more work to be done for sure. And I am still learning that - and CG! - as I am editing the piece so it's a garguantuan task.

As for the costumes, well credit doesn't go to me. It goes to Andy Bradshaw - he's one of the actors in the film and he designed most of these with literally nothing - army surplus and Salvation army stuff that he glues and paints... He's just amazing with this.

As for the "B" issue, well it's like for every other girls in my movies... I just asked! In that case, I asked very respectfully, sending her the scene ahead by email so she could read it and figure how it fitted in the grand scheme of things and she said yes. Nothing special about it. It did helped that she had worked with me on a previous movie (where no nudity was required on her part) so we knew each other and she knows how I work. I am not overly confortable shooting those scenes but it was necessary for funding so we charged ahead and did it. Can't believe it would create such a fuss. Here in Quebec, we have nudity on TV shows all the time. Nobody has a heart attack over it. Anyways. Let's not start this topic again.

I can't wait to finish this film now and start on my next one, which wil be a super-hero movie (and I already wrote you a part - don't worry! wink ).
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Yeah, I second Solthar, those costumes were killer!


Woohoo!! CG!! Who's going to be doing those scenes? somebody really cool, I'm sure! wink


p.s. thanks to the mods for cleaning all the mess up. smile
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Yeah, I have read in the spotlight how you wrote down the movement of the sun. Excellent. This is a great tip! smile
Much smarter then me trying to battle sunlight with a 500W spotlight for Face to Face. biggrin

I have no doubt the final film will be fantastic and a big opportunity for you!



Oh boy... A superhero-film. Guess we'll be in direct competition then next year *me gets really really scared* smile



Great! If I can be of any service in any way, don't hesitate to shout Christian!


heh, cool! A part!! WEEEEE!
If you have the time, I would love to have you in NightCast as well in a short scene (I have an idea of something you might be able to help me on, just something short, but I'll tell you as soon as I know it's going to be like that)
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If you need me to be on fire, I'm good at that. We just need to find a way to integrate it in your footage. Won't work well on blue screen...

Yeah, you released you Nightcast thing and I already had planned mine...

Oh well!

But don't worry... From what I've seen of yours, it's mme who's really scared! wink
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...And how do you light people on fire? Is it very pricey? wink


Nice trailer. That wide shot of the warehouse is killer. That's the kind of stuff I enjoy. That explosion coming out of the side wall later on in the trailer, where everyone is standing still, looked a little wierd.

Kids, when it says 18+, don't watch it. If you do, pretend you haven't, or don't complain.

Also, I hope you did some killer squibwork with all those pyro skillz you have. wink
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thought it was great. nice costumes. what was the budget if you dont mind me asking?
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I liked that nice and clean slice off the last half of the thread!

Anyways, the costumes rock, and so do the explosions! Especially the good attempt at making a go-cart look futuristic by spray painting it green and shooting sparky rockets off the top.

I wish I had money!
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I don't know if it is a american thing (different culture, i am from Quebec,canda like John) but i have no prob with the boob. I don't specialty like to see boob on screen but i am not shock by looking at them. And if these scene mean more money for the movie and the girl was ok with that... What the problem?

By the way i am like Soltar and i like more the first trailer. Maybe the rythme of it. I don't know. But i will rent the final version here when it will be finish, if i can't look at it on the WEB.

Shadu
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THIS HAS TO BE A POST RECORD, I POSTED MINE EARLY 2DAY ON THE 1ST PAGE AND WHEN I CHECK IT LATER 2NIGHT THERES 5?!?!?! jesus!

I'd like to shake your hand John Carter... haha


p.s. This has brought up some controversy but i think that this film critique section has some of the funniest posts! haha, ive never laughed out loud before over and over on this site.

ggbros- about your comments on respecting women.. most of us do on this site. How does a woman who agrees to do a topless scene in a movie make us the 1 who is disrespecting women?? doenst make any sense kid... If u dont like seeing random girls boobs i suggest that you never go on a spring break trip that has a lot of georgous girls in the area, and also if thats the case, u might not like college that much either haha.

Iceman- all i can day is LMAO, it doesnt get much better than the posts that youve dished out back at him. good stuff good stuff...

...haha all this talk over a pair of milkers...
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I didn't do the pyro for this film - too busy with directing and camera and producing and all. I hired guys to do it since we had some money and I wanted to do bigger things.

Putting somebody on fire isn't expensive (unless you hire a real stuntman to do it - I was told they charge up to $25,000 to do it, depending on the type of burn - that's why I do it myself!) but you need some special equipment, Nomex fire retardant suits (like what the F1 drivers wear under their flashy suits) and a gel the guys here call stunt gel, which is cold as hell and helps keep you cool for those extra minutes when you are a ball of flame. It's fun. I did it four times so far in my life and enjoyed it everytime. Scary as hell in a way, but the rush after is unbelievable. A bit like jumping in parachute.

The gokart wasn't meant to be futuristic per se, It's a "scavenger" vehicle that happens to shoot rockets and other things... It's a transport vehicle. We tacked on all kinds of things on it to make it look like it was a vehicle that was upgraded for military purpose.

You see one of the squibs we did with that guy getting his head blown off in the trailer.

As for the side explosion, well, they wouldn't let us put the actors too close to it so I sorta had to cheat a little and I guess that's what you feel... Can't win them all I guess. There's more explosions in the film, just didn't want to spoil it all.

Our full budget is around $50,000 Canadian, which ain't much for a feature film. Money went to pay salaries to actors and our skeleton crew (12 at most, less on most days), pyro, some props and blanks... Budget for costumes was around $1000...

Edit: And I see no disrespect on the part of no one, especially not the actress. She's playing a part. Movie are meant to emulate a form of reality. Filmmakers are creating worlds and try to make you believe in them. In this particular case, she's playing the lover of one of the soldier. The scene called for nudity because that's how it would've played in real life, if you forget about space and all that. It a touching, tender scene with strong moments between two adults and it is integrated not only in the storyline but within the film itself as part of a transition moment. I don't want to say more in order to not spoil the punch but you will see one day if you see the film. It all makes sense. I never heard anybody's outrage when they showed Mel Gibson's ass in Lethal Weapon or better yet, the Hulk's butt and weenie in Ang Lee's movie! Nobody walked out of theaters. Don't hear anybody bitching at Salma Hayek's love scene with BAnderas in Desperado. Who complains about the strippers in Dusk till Dawn? What about Denise Richards scene in Wild Things? This is all ridiculous and immature. People may disagree with the fact that we put that shot in the trailer or not, I have no issue with that. But please do not insult the people who did it. That's disrespectful.

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CX3 - biggrin biggrin

John - $50,000 isn't much in terms of a feature film, but nor is it much to squawk at around here. I'd bet even money that a lot of the forum denizens around here would love to have that kind of money to 'play with' wink
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*Sollthar nods in agreemen with Iceman, giggles and runs off* wink
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I got the money because of my hard work the first time around, Iceman. Didn't steal it! biggrin

I want to make movies for a living and I am working hard at it.
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as far as I can see, things are going pretty well for ya! Totally keep it up, for sure!
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So far, so good. Keeping fingers crossed. wink
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Back to the nude scene.

I think the guy they call Ian should have been naked, then you would really have got some nice comments biggrin

Great trailer, great acting, great fx's I want to see it NOW...!!!!!
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crikey, turn my back for a minute and you get 5 pages of posts. I thought the trailer was great, It built well on the previous trailer, showed some of the characters out of their body armoured fighting gear, pursueing some pleasurable human interaction ( and no I'm not talking about the anal probe bit ).

Like you have said previously it builds on the story without revealing the details, I want to see it more with every trailer, I'm assuming it's going to be the last one before it is released???

As far as the colour grading goes I would only do the outside scenes, the interiors look great, but without colour grading the exteriors will almost always look too familiar, I did see a straw grad on one of the shots. I would probably choose a single colour and treat all the footage in the same way, getting rid of the greens should give it a more unnatural look....
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There should be one more trailer before the release.

As far as color grading goes, I am sort of waiting for the whole thing to be finished before I put too much work on that because, well, it's a lot of work so I want to do it proper.

Expect more CG and FX in the next trailer as I am slowly progessing with that. But it won't be for a few more months, that's for sure.
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I can't decide which I prefer, the teaser or the trailer. The teaser certainly looked like it had a higher budget, I hope you don't lose that in the final thing. The trailer on the other hand told more of the plot which made it more interesting even if I was thinking 'not another space marines vs space zombies film'. Still whatever you come out with can't be worse than Ghosts of Mars.

As for the boobs, I was disappointed, I was expecting it to be more gratuitous! razz I don't see why its an issue at all. Women have boobs, men like to look at them. It is clearly rated 18+ and has the obvious warning. I guess it is a difference of our various societies but I don't see anyone complaining about the excessive violence or gore which is more of a bad influence.
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I agree kid, haha, i didnt even think of that."Dont show any boobs thats bad! but its ok if you shoot sum1 in the head or blow them, thats perfectly fine smile "


Edit: Yes!! I made page 6!!!
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Kid, you sure make a good point about all the violence... I find very ironic that people are upset at flesh but not bothered in the least when somebody gets his head blown off!

That being said, I ahve yet to figure why the teaser looks more expensive than the rest of the film we shot afterwards... Oh well!

Zombies aren't the only thing they face, fear not... There's a whole lot more, zombies and werewolves get dealt with in the first half hour. There's much more after that...

And I haven't seen Ghost of Mars, but from what I am told, we fared MUCH better! wink
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I hope the werewolves aren't too scary. I have a phobia of the damn things...
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"Warning, movie contains nudity.

Ok, I'll watch it anyway.

WTF??? THERES NUDITY IN THIS FILM!!1!"


"Warning, If one doesnt want to die, do not put gun against head and pull the trigger..."

See where I'm going GGbros et al?
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To start the trailor is really GREAT! It is very exciting to see community members doing this kind of stuff. It helps to prove that ALAMDV2 is a very useful tool. Congrats on the funding and the distro of your work. That is really awesome. You and your crew are closer to breaking into making it big.

Lastly, this issue keeps coming up so I felt I should give my opinion. Nudity. You were warned and it has a +18 rating.
If a box says "do not open this or it will blow your face off", do you open it to see what will happen?

Lastly this is nudity. The actors were not naked.

Nudity: an image respectfully depicting the human form uncovered.

Naked: What one will see in so many pop up ads after venturing to the wrong areas of the web.

I suppose my feelings on this matter come from my art background and having to do figure studies.
It is unfortunate that many people are unable to fathom the difference. One is showig life in its purity and may not have to involve sex or the implication thereof.
The other is twisting what I mentioned above and displaying it in an insensitive disrepectful tone.

What I am getting at is that this trailor is not anything like a popup ad.
Again you were warned... WHAH! sleep
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Well, that was a quite proffesional piece of fimling there...nice one smile whens the full feature due? Good to see nice use of costumes and time spent on making the trailer watchable. Like the morph featured in the trailer, atmosphere is very well created and the humour looked to be just right.....looking forward to full feature..Keep up the good work

Jon Black
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Looks like a fun movie I really like the first trailer 'cause the guy reminded me of the sarge fro Aliens---"GET ON THE READY LINE!"

I like space marine movies and this looks to be a staright forward project.

Blow stuff up and feel like a man.

Hey, this film was made for a target audience male 18-49. It has what we want.

I 'll be waiting for the final.
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Sergeant Apone was my favorite character from Aliens - "Look into my eye. . . ." biggrin biggrin
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What program(s) were involved in post-production of this movie? I thought it was great! Now it's time for me to get back on track.
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Final Cut Pro 4, Soundtrack, LiveType, After Effects, 3D Studio MAx, Poser 4, Maya.
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*cough*alamdv*cough*
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Well, Kid, it goes without saying... I just assumed that people would know that... since the movie is posted on CSB's site! wink Not to mention the banner stating the product used next to the film itself when you go see it!
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Not all the music of the trailer is made with soundtrack. Mostly some of the beginning, a few of the sound effects as well. A lot of music in the actual film is amde with Soundtrack. It is a very good program.
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Wooooh!! That was even hotter than the teaser.. I'm not sure though cause I saw the teaser a while back..

But this was really cool and you definitly should have the golden chart #1 position biggrin

Haha.. the comment in the end is really cool,

"Zombies, werewolves, vampires... what's next? Frankenstein or the mummy?"

haha.. awesome.. and I got surprised on the tit-thing.. hehe.. never read the warning label that said "warning, nudity".. smile

John Carter I agree on the B-film-no-stars-need-nudity thingy.. Even Terminator 1 got it wink

Good luck with the movie, Looking forward to it!
Don't miss out our Crackman-film though.. hehe.. maybe not the same kind of quality... razz
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nicmar, thanks for the comments.

This is an amateur site and movies are bound to be of different quality. When I watch a movie, I don't look for a budget, I look for a story, for craftmanship, for interesting camera angles, good FX, etc. It's not always all there because everybody has different skills levels or ressources.

But a rule of thumb is this: if the story is good, then your good to go. Visuals are there to serve the story, not the other way around. Lars VOn Trier just finished a film where the sets are chalk marks on the floor... I mean, you can't get more minimalistic than that! Yet is movie is compelling and human and somewhat touching while being severely misanthropic... He ahs a story, sets are secondary in the end. Once you buy the device, everything is there as long as there is a good story to follow!

I'll have a look at Crackman for sure!
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You have some very nice production values, probably in the top 4 or 5 that I have seen on this website so far. I'll comment further when I can see the rest of your film. I'll be keeping an eye on this one.
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One thing that kinda bothered me with this trailer was the morph of something turning into something else.. it look kinda amateurish.. It looked as if was a morph between two stills.. try to make a morph of 2 animated things, it's harder to do, but it looks a lot cooler..

Like terminator 2 uses this stuff a lot.. smile

I can't just say good things about this one wink
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Hey! No problem nicmar! I welcome bad comments too! smile

Well, the shot is indeed made with two stills - you are the first to notice or mention it. The reason is the morph was a good "trailer moment" in my opinion but the scene itself isn't edited yet so I didn't want to detract attention from editing the trailer in order to create an efffect the length of which I didn't know yet since the scene wasn't put together yet.
Hence the simplification. I am working on a more elaborate morph for the final product.

But thanks for pointing it out. It may have been something I didn't see.

C.
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I need to show this to the people who work on my film with the quote "ladies and gentlemen consider the bar raised."

This looks amazing, to avoid repetition of all the stuff that's been said I'll leave it at that.... that and this: My main problem from the first trailer: The title, doesn't really bother me any more.
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JohnCarter, you make me laugh the way you talk as if you are a bigshot director.

"But a rule of thumb is this: if the story is good, then your good to go. Visuals are there to serve the story, not the other way around. Lars VOn Trier just finished a film where the sets are chalk marks on the floor... I mean, you can't get more minimalistic than that! Yet is movie is compelling and human and somewhat touching while being severely misanthropic... He ahs a story, sets are secondary in the end. Once you buy the device, everything is there as long as there is a good story to follow!"
-JohnCarter

How can someone who names their studio "blood&bulletsproductions" making a film about wooden acted marines killing zombies, werewolves and vampires claim he looks for a good story to base visuals on? You seem to have looked for a story that would accomodate your effects and visual ideas. As for your "story"? *cough*ALIENS*cough* As for the visuals and effects?, well it just looks like a lost episode of red dwarf. tacky. Its a shame you could not come up with a more original idea to spend your wealth on.
-Francois Truffaut
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Coming from somebody who doesn't even have the decency to name himself... Or better yet hides himself behind the name of a "great" director...

You make me laugh the way you talk as if you are a big coward... I have faced much harsher and more justified critics than your pathetic effort before, "Guest", so next time, eat your cereals...

I was using Lars Von Triers movie as an argument about story, trying to explain that he didn't even use sets in order to make his story compelling. I feel sad I have to explain that to you but obviously you didn't understand... What a poor man's Truffaut you make. I was in no way comparing myself to Von Triers. And I don't feel like I was talking like a big shot director doing so. Besides, you took this quote out of it's context where I was expressing an opinion in regards as to what makes a movie work and I happen to believe that story is a big part of it.

As for my films, I have no qualms about what I make. I love B movies. And that's what I do: movies I'd love to watch! Where's the crime in that? Besides, your stunning intellect probably was too blinded with the fact that by calling my studio "Blood & Bullets Productions", I make a clear statement about what I make. Too much to ask of your prodigious IQ, I'm afraid.

I wrote my story around the location we found, some Alam FX I thought would work great, some costumes we had, from the "wooden acting marines" you refer to, who worked hard to do them, thank you very much, and as far as I know, there was stories, even novels, before and after Aliens that dealt with soldiers in space. Does Robert Heinlein (among others) rings a bell to you, Truffaut? Or maybe you sit so high on your intellectual tower you never heard of the man? I never hid the fact that we inspired ourselves in part by Aliens, part by Starship Troopers, part by countless of other novels and movies and books, including Philip K. Dick! Besides, Aliens dealt with, well, Aliens... I have aliens, true, but all sort of other things!! What do you know? Are you a telepath? Have you read the script? Oh! No! Sorry, I forgot, you are Truffaut, God of Cinema... You know it all...

My effects may be tacky but it goes well with the corniness of the subject, don't you agree? Or your brilliance blinds you to a point that you don't even get the joke?

As far as I know, Red Dwarf was really successful and entertaining. If I can only aspire to one hundredth of that, well, I'll consider myself very "big shot", thank you very much!

Besides, my story, which resolves around some zombies, werewolves and vampires (among other things) was strong enough to land me financing, so were my visuals. If that's not enough to warrant having earned my stripes, I don't know what does. At least I have the decency to name myself, unlike you. And if Truffaut is your real name, well, it's truly unfortunate for your famous namesake...

It's a shame you even have access to a computer so that you can waste people's time like so... hugegrin

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I really have been away from here too long! This looks exceptional. That somes it up all in one word. You are the kind of folks I would love to work with...attention to detail and quality. Can't wait for the release.

Peace
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it's good to see my friend B4 helping you out in your production..(i played Daniel Jackson in the Call it a staragte series)...i am very impressed indeed, i know you had a very good budet for this movie and it looks to me as though you spent it well..

i saw a post of horrid critisism..but i think all of us film makers do get that...it's just jelous people that can't make a film to save their lives, so they have to bring others around them down to make themselves feel big and mighty.

i look farward to seeing the finished product and our Starhip Troopers film should be finished soon so good luck and all the best...lets hope we both go far and maybe one day people will be seeing us on the big screen....you never know
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 7:50pm

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JohnCarter

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Hey "Daniel Jackson"...

Yes, I am very glad b4 is helping out, trust me, and he's a great guy on top of it so it's a truly enjoyable experience!

As far as the aforementioned wannabe critic, well, anonymous comments aren't valid critics. And in this case, it wasn't really a critic, it was more like the barely coherent mumblings of a feeble mind who clearly doesn't get it, or as you hint, a frustrated filmmaker. And since he likes to quote famous people, I'll quote somebody from my realm who's real famous and more known than Francois Truffaut:

"Do or do not. There is no try."
- Yoda

So get your film going already, "Guest" and stop bitching at other people's efforts.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 8:15pm

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b4uask30male

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oh, i just read the guest comments smile

I'll be the first to admit that when I saw John's first trailer, he came on here from nowhere, I really hated that thought, sad but true.
But the person inside me thought, No.... That looks good and I admire any effort that he has put in there.

My first question to him was "Whats the story like" expecting it to be, " Some guys go on a planet and kills alien things" ( sound like my smoothnecks film ) anyway he let me in on some of the story and I thought insted of being angry at the guy, I'd rather get to know him and pick his brains.
A bit like sidewider and Mecha, never really seen eye to eye, but when I see their films and each one is getting better I have to be impressed.

So the motto of my boring post is:
Imbrace the fact that people can do better and learn from them, there will always be someone better at something than you.

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Posted: Thu, 16th Oct 2003, 4:21pm

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Jonis

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This was a nice one:D
Wondering tho...
Are you going to release the full movie on Fxhome?
Oh the 3D stuff looked a little out of place but they were nice
Posted: Sun, 19th Oct 2003, 1:04am

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Phage

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Looks great, but to me the plot seems a little weak and does not make much sence...
Posted: Sun, 19th Oct 2003, 4:20am

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JohnCarter

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It'll make sense when you'll see the whole film...
Posted: Sun, 19th Oct 2003, 7:38am

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martintroy

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In-fucking-credible!!! thank you very much! please show us the final product on FXhome when its completed... I can't wait!!!
Posted: Fri, 14th Nov 2003, 2:10pm

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trevinator13

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Hi there. I am somewhat of a lurker, mainly watching what other people do, and make my own films, having never posted anything before. I just wanted to say that this is the best, and most professional piece of work that I have seen on this site. I can only hope to aspire to what you have created with Power Corps. It would truly be an honor to work along side you one day. Best of Luck!