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Pooky's get your spots while they're hot...story ideas

Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 7:41pm

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tommach

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Pooky, I hope you don't mind me grabbing the ball and running with it, but I think we should start discussing story ideas.

For those who aren't aware of what I'm talking about, go to Get Your Spots while they're hot post.

I agree that action is the way to go, but what sort of story idea? Maybe an apocalyptic showdown or perhaps a spoof/tribute to the matrix movie. I don't know, haven't really thought it through yet. Let's hear some more ideas, bounce them off each other.
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 9:49pm

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Don't forget the story needs to be so there is no main character, so i suggest that it be like a kind of SWAT-like organisation or something that sends teams somewhere and they keep getting killed but you never know HOW they get killed until the final team gets sent and then you see........ (its something really creative and creepy)
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:00pm

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What do you think?
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:02pm

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ok, wow.


interesting idea pook neutral
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:08pm

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Thx but i dont really know what the surprise ending should be... evil aliens from space and mutants are too boring and predictable, ghosts and monsters, same.... anybody here have a good idea? I'm trying to find a non-living thing idea.... Vortex? no. 5th Dimension? no....
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:10pm

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something that drives us insane and we kill ourselves? like some thing we suddenly understand or see or somehting
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:21pm

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yeah but then we need to make the story before that team gets sent a bit more specific so that there is something we never get until the end when it gets explained.

oh only thing with my team: my actors (brothers) don't want to film anymore so my team will all be me (cloning) but they will have something over their faces so you won't know.

oh yeah and can I do the final team?
Posted: Mon, 13th Oct 2003, 10:26pm

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Should it be sci-fi or should we limit it to earth. and if we limit it to earth, then to we limit it to present time or future or past?

What if, ten people from around the world (one per filmmaker) have been destined since the beginning of time to be linked together to take on some evil force whose time approaches.

Through various means, each of these people learn of the prophesy and must survive those would would want them dead.

At the end, they would come together and join as one. (This could be accomplished with blue screening and careful planning.) Once they join, they are morphed into a single being who them must fight the evil force.

What do you think?
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:09am

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Hrmm the bluescreening bit is sorta tough and i dont even own a bluescreen and i have no wall to tape blue paper to... Oh and it would have to be 9 people from around the world so the remaining one is the one they morph into.

I think we should limit it to earth, though we could have a futuristic flick....

Oh and don't forget I don't own AlamDV 2 though I have the same cinematic and M16 muzzle flashes (I got them off a site somewhere), I can make lightsabers in AE, and I have this cool program for explosions, smoke, fire, and such.
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:11am

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And isn't there someone else that's involved in this that can post a story idea?
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:14am

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Pooky, how many times do we have to tell you? There's an edit button! It looks like this:

Please, please, use it!
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:16am

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Ok sorry
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:27am

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Interesting ideas. Though I think that it should be limited to present time reality.

As for my idea, this is the most current one on my mind. We have a group of hitmen, spread around the globe (or US, whatever), and one central boss. Communication is done through phone or internet, and we have each hitman take their man down. Until something happens that I haven't thought of yet, =), and everything comes back to the boss. I don't know. Try adding to it.
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 12:44am

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Hrmm good one. Ok, first I must point out that having the boss and the hitmen talk through the phone would be too complicated so I suggest e-mail that way it's written. Also, I say spread around North America cuz I'm in Canada smile

Maybe after we got like 5 ideas, I should start a Poll to decide which story is better. I still vote for the SWAT because it wouldn't be hard to organize though. And we must have a story that works with the cinema submitting plan we have.
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 3:01pm

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I like the idea of the hitmen.

But why are they targetting these people?

If we know that, then we can weave a storyline around that.

What if someone is investigating the deaths of the people hit?

But you say, the person investigating the deaths would have to be in the scenes with the dead people. right, but once again it's an easy shot. Have the person killed shot (camera) alone, the next day, giving a wide enough shot to allow the investigating person to be inserted into the scene. then any close ups of the dead person could be pulled off easily. I have blue screen capabilities so I'd be willing to do that part of the film.

To make it more interesting, but much more difficult, we could set the whole thing in space.
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 3:07pm

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Why don't you guys do something surrounding an object or objects... For example Talismans or Orbs (something easy to make between the lot of you) - Kind of like "The Fifth Element" stones, That way you could have say five pieces to a mystic puzzle and maybe two organisations (each with their own distinct, easy to replicate uniforms) battling to get the other two or three objects from one another for world domination.

Sensible Because...

1) Small objects are easy to make and don't need alot of detail (cheap to make)

2) Having two organisations means you can decide on uniforms between yourselves (i.e. one wears blue the other red etc...) and can therefore make the same costumes where ever you are in the world.

3) Continuity is always achieved because there are fewer factors to remember (costume etc...)

4) Once you have arranged all this you can just allow your plot to take the rivals anywhere in the world to find the next piece of the puzzle achieving your goal of having an international film smile.


Hope this has been of some help at least -

Oh... You could just take two or three ideas and mix them together and see what you come up with.
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 5:41pm

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here's how everyone can be killed: the crazy psycho they're after lets them know the meaning of life and it's too much for a person to handle so they scream and die eek
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 9:37pm

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Hey yeah , we could consider a comedy ending like that (talking about the SWAT movie): there can be a narrator (twilight zone-like, that would be really funny) and in the end everyone's dead or something, so the narrator tells you it was because they found out the meaning of life and bla bla bla and when he's about to say what the meaning of life IS the film ends there (or there is video corruption or something). What do you think?
Posted: Tue, 14th Oct 2003, 10:43pm

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raider and pooky: thats exactly what i was thinking... "they suddenly undertsnad something or see or something".. maybe we could put all of them together... there is a swat team that is assigned an unofficial mission to go undercover and assasinate this one guy for.. say... murder that there wasn't enough evidence for him to go to jail or something. (anybody recognize that from the book "And then there were none" just read that in school) say he committed many murders, and its because he knows that thing. so we go out, alone to give away less if we are caught, and you can figure out the rest.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 12:38am

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only one problem: we can't film toghether, can't bluescreen the whole thing, and I don't have a bluescreen anyway. PLEASE try to find a story that DOESNT involve bluescreen, we can make a bluescreen test like that after this project. we also need a story so each filmaker can make HIS bit then put it on the cinema and in the end I edit them all toghether and then post it on the cinema (i can cuz there are gonna be alam effects from u guys biggrin).

how bout you mix it up like this: a hitman company has been hiring retired SWAT teams to do the killing (for a higher price, of course) and they send 9 of them on missions to kill different people (one per team). then one of the teams dies for an unknow reason so the company sends a 10th team to go see what happened and they see it's because they found the meaning of life and bla bla bla. what do you think about that?
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 12:42am

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yah thats pretty good, but maybe we could change the idea of meaning of life to something else like that, for dome reason i dont like that... we didmt have to film on a bluescreen for my idea, we could communicate by email and stuff... and it ould be like 6 or 7 teams cause we need actors for the hitman company and the meaning of life person and stuff
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 12:45am

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well what I mean by SWAT team is like in Rainbow Six. I forget what those non-SWAT SWAT teams (crazy) are called.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 12:53am

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Special Ops.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 1:07am

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Yeah that's it.

so it's :

a hitman company has been hiring Special Ops teams to do the killing (for a higher price, of course) and they send 9 of them on missions to kill different people (one per team). then one of the teams dies for an unknow reason so the company sends a 10th team to go see what happened and they see it's because...... ???????????
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 6:12am

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Setting it in space just makes this alrady difficult project that much more... difficult, lol. You could go for a Boondock Saints type style. Where the detective guy investigates the scene... and then a clip of each person's hit. Sounds very possible and entertaining.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 6:42am

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A hitman company? Would I find that in the phonebook? Some of you folks here should watch your backs. smile
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 7:53am

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haha. I think the meaning of "company" they're using is "group", like Easy Company from Band of Brothers. Yea.. I know you were joking. =)

Great ideas so far. But I don't get the whole hitmen thing being mixed up with special ops, lol.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 11:25am

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Well that was the mixed up idea. But the original idea was the same except no hitman "company" and such.
Posted: Wed, 15th Oct 2003, 3:32pm

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I think everyone likes the hitman idea.

for the ending, what if the hitmen are actually hitting each other? And it's not until the end that the last two realize that they were the target of the hits.

Okay, so thinking outloud, how would this work in our context? Let's say there are eight hitmen, hence eight filmmakers. four of the filmmakers will shoot(film) their hitmen going on a hit, but being killed. The other four filmmakers will shoot(film) their hitmen accomplishing their mission. To keep the suspense going, we don't let the audience see who the killer is
(in the films that their hitmen dies), nor who the killee is(in the films where the hitman gets his target).

So now there are four hitmen left. (This is where those who have bluescreen capabilities can do their part.) Each filmmaker films his hitman going after the other hitman. This can all be done without blue screen, accomplished with cuts. The only parts that need to be blue screened would be when we need to see both faces in the same shot.

Now there are two hitmen left. the audience now knows what's going on, but the two hitmen left don't. They meet each other, one dies and the boss confronts the last hitman. Hitman kills boss, hitman now is boss.

Fade to black smile
Posted: Thu, 16th Oct 2003, 12:05am

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hrmm ok, well I didn't like the hitman idea but it seems everyone else does.... then we'll go with it. don't forget the ones doing bluescreen will have to work EXTREMELY closely and it will be HARD and will probably need a few tries, be warned!

the actual project starts in JUNE (I won't have time before that cuz of school, sry) and I'll start a thread for bluescreening and planning.
Posted: Thu, 16th Oct 2003, 11:31am

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This is the FINAL story, it's not very precise but that's a good thing cuz as long as you respect the story, you can sorta personalize your clip:



There are eight hitmen, hence eight filmmakers. four of the filmmakers will shoot(film) their hitmen going on a hit, but being killed. The other four filmmakers will shoot(film) their hitmen accomplishing their mission. To keep the suspense going, we don't let the audience see who the killer is
(in the films that their hitmen dies), nor who the killee is(in the films where the hitman gets his target).

So now there are four hitmen left. (This is where those who have bluescreen capabilities can do their part.) Each filmmaker films his hitman going after the other hitman. This can all be done without blue screen, accomplished with cuts. The only parts that need to be blue screened would be when we need to see both faces in the same shot.

Now there are two hitmen left. the audience now knows what's going on, but the two hitmen left don't. They meet each other, one dies and the boss confronts the last hitman. Hitman kills boss, hitman now is boss.

Fade to black:)



For the boss, someone that is doing the last clip will just have one of his actors do the job.

The Parts are divided like this:

1. Beginning credits and intro and such and 1st Hitman mission (killed)

3. 3rd hitman mission (killed)

2. 2nd hitman mission (killed)

4.4th hitman mission (killed)

5. 5th hitman mission (success)

6. 6th hitman mission (success)

7. 7th hitman mission (success)

8. 8th hitman mission (success)

9. Then comes the bluescreening bit when the producers of parts 5-8 try to kill each other.

10. Person that did part 8 (the only hitman left) makes his own part where he fights the boss and wins.

So this means the person that does part 8 will have more work than the others; but it will be worth it! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 16th Oct 2003, 9:28pm

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yet I STILL HATE the idea of bluescreening