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How do you do sommersaults or stunts?

Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 6:17am

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Hi... I just bought AlamDV2 and am starting off as a novice. I am trying to make a stunt movie and was wondering what tricks I can use to do sommersaults or action stunts? I know that there is wire stunts, are there any that are digital? Thanks for ANY help on this topic!
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Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 7:22am

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Hahahahahahaha... Ohhhhhhh Man.

You can make 3D doubles of your actors and have them do the summersaults! But what's the point? You could also do some kinda cool stuff if you get one of those little excercise trampolines and dig a hole and put it in. It'll look cheesy, but at least you can jump high. I say, stick with small stuff. Like, not big stuff...
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 7:45am

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Actually, doing real stunts is quite easy. You just need good stamina -

There is a site which has in depth videos as to how to do backflips, wall backflips, and good landings, but sidey has the link right now so I'll get back to you on it.

It's all aimed towards people who know nothing about what they're doing - - - that's a good thing.
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:03am

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Come on now MechaForce! I need that site! wink
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 12:52pm

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i would like to see that site...like to see how people teach people that stuff..its not like u can teach it over the internet n e way oink

EDIT:did a search on google and you would be surprised with hpw many things i found....Martial Arts tricks videos or sumthen like that
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 3:18pm

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Hey Andrew! Post the link or just send a private message to me! ,)
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 3:24pm

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srry, i lost it, i will look later
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 3:25pm

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WOO!!! FOUND IT!!!!!!

www.trickstutorials.com
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 8:59pm

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I nearly killed myself when I tried the wall flip... crazy
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 9:59pm

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Thanks soooo much everybody, but especially MechaForce for the link and help! smile
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:02pm

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LOLpooky... haha, yea, i'd have to be paid lots of money to try something like that.
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:06pm

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I imagined myself doing a backflip 50 times then went out and broke my neck. It hurt.
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:10pm

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Morpheus wrote:

Believe in yourslelf neo. Let out all of your fear.

The guy on trickstutorials wrote:

Believe in yourslelf. Let out all of your fear.
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:10pm

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Aculag, you said I could, "make 3D doubles of your actors and have them do the summersaults".. how do I do that? The REAL stunt tutorial at that site that was quoted is interesting, but what if I want to try doing just that.. using 3D actors.. what programs and so on do I need? And, hey, does anyone know how adrenaline was made.. that all REAL or enhanced by 3D stunts? Thanks!
Posted: Sat, 1st Nov 2003, 10:14pm

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For 3D doubles, you need either 3ds max (around 3000 $) or Poser (around.... I forget smile ). Then you need to learn it, then you need to make a convincing 3D model of yourself (Poser is good at that, i think). Then you need to be able to animate it so it looks real. Once you've got all of that, the rest is easy!




















My neck still hurts.
Posted: Sun, 2nd Nov 2003, 12:28am

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pooky wrote:


My neck still hurts.
hmm...i wonder why....geez pooky
Posted: Sun, 2nd Nov 2003, 4:49am

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Yeah. You said you broke it. Most people's neck ends up hurting for a while after breaking it. Although I doubt it's as bad as you say it is you little cry baby. I KID!!!
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 10:39am

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For us begginers....
once you have the model ready to go, if the rest is easy, please tell me how to do it (import it into the movie and substitute the "real actor")
In my case, a explosion and the guy is blown across the street.
Please, if you have the patience, giva a step by step guide!
cheers
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Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 12:35pm

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Hmm this is a thread from my n00b days...

Anyway, if you do have a model of yourself, then what program are you using? Because what I told you a year ago was wrong, I'm afraid.

Once you have the model ready, you must then set up IK Handles and bones (it's what allows the model to bend and move limbs). Once you have that done, you have to animate it, and animating it convincingly can be tough. If you're using 3DS MAX, I suggest you practice animating a biped, using keyframes (kinda like AlamDV2, but in 3D space). Then once you think you've got the hang of it, go animate your actual model.

And now you must render and set up lighting. This can be tricky sometimes, and I'm still pretty poor at it (I use Cinema 4D). I believe what you'd want to do is render with HDRI lighting (google it). And that's about all I know.

Anyway, as I said, we'd need to know more about your program to tell you what to do.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 2:16pm

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i do flips off of things. he ha.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 3:21pm

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I just spent all weekend, me, the star of my film and some other guys, diving across rooms, twisting around with twin pistols. Problem was everyone was real tired when we started and after a few hours they were worse and the star almost broke his arm... we decided to call it quits then.

Should see some of the bruises I've picked up. The back of my leg is made exclusively of black pudding.

But no, providing the worse you get is a few bruises. You can't beat the real thing as long as you work within your limitations. It's just difficult to get to sleep that night when both your hips are bruised and you've lost alot of skin from your elbows. smile
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 7:15pm

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I got a video of a guy that does ALL kinds of crazy stunts... If you're into stunts (like I was until I landed on my head too many times) you have to check out his video! It's way too cool! seriously! smile

Here's a link:

http://www.geeksgonebad.com/videos/jumper.wmv

and here's some video of what Pooky just did LOL you gotta see this one too LOL way too funny!

http://www.geeksgonebad.com/videos/afroninja.mpeg

and remember, as always with my stuff, right-click - Save as... will be better for you smile
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 7:43pm

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what i did is learnt to backflip on my friends trampoline then put a green tarpauline over the top and over the back and filmed it then keyed it out as you would normally.
Its really easy it took me about two days to learn.
TVM
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 9:19pm

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Wow, I remember this thread. One of the first I read on the site.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Feb 2005, 9:55pm

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If you are looking for stunts only possible using wires, than I'd say that the only option you would have would be to do a cg double. I doubt any of us could really higher a stunt coordinator or stuntmen. btw, whats up with somersaults man? Just do 'em yourself, anyone can do a somersault!!