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3D Smoothnecks TRAILER

Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2003, 4:12pm

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b4uask30male

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3D TRAILER, please read first.

The file size is larger than normal, the reason is because for you to view the 3D trailer the quality needs to be very clear, the file is DVD (mpg2)

For the 3D to work best you should maximize the screen while playing, the bigger the picture the better the 3D is, try to select full screen in your players options.
( I suggest save as )

You will need a Pair of RED / BLUE or RED / GREEN glasses.
Try to sit about 3-4 foot away from full screen and if possible the darker the room the better.

You will see some scenes that are not in the online version, this is because the DVD has the full ONE hour version and also has the normal One hour version, 2 pairs of 3D glasses are supplied with the DVD.
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Posted: Sat, 15th Nov 2003, 4:30pm

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Wondering how the analglyph was achieved -- there's freeware for compositing two separate eye views, but capturing those two eye views has always been tricky. Any tips?
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 5:34am

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Nice work! I happened to have a pair of 3-D glasses from when I saw Spy Kids 3-D so I was able to watch it right away and was surprised at how well it came out. There were a few really good shots where you got a great sense of depth between the foreground and background characters. The “I’ll bloody well shoot ya” scene, the scene where you push the guy in the back, as well as a couple of the scenes with guys in camouflage standing in the foreground came out exceptionally well.

Looks like a lot of time and effort went into this. I’ve never tried any kind of 3-D effects so I have no idea how it works. What did you do? Mask out certain areas and then apply some kind of 3-D filter?

It’s a large file but you have it hosted on a great server, it only took about 2-3 minutes to download.
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 6:22am

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That was incredible.. I used my Spy Kids glasses too. I would like to know how it was made also, if you don't mind offering some tips.
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 8:15am

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Thanks guys,
The server is great smile more than happy with it smile

ZukoVega, you are spot on. smile
I used a plugin for After Effects called cult effects, this can add a filter to make the whole image 3D. but.......If you make the whole image 3D then you have nothing in the background and therefor the 3D doesn't work.
To get it to work I had to mask around the person or object on each Frame ( for the whole hour movie ) as you can guess it takes ages.

If you need more info just ask.
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 2:36pm

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Great Job b4! I remember reading somewhere a while back about your 3D effects. The trailer was great and so was the 3D. I used this pair i made out of some card-stock paper and that celefane paper and it worked real good.

Just as a note to Adobe Premiere users. In 6.5 there is a filter called COLOR OFFSET. this is what i used in this topic: http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=10541&

Great work b4!

Andrew
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 4:09pm

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ZukoVega

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Wow! Masking out an hour long movie frame by frame, now that’s some dedication I can respect! When I tested your “Wings” plug-in I masked out my shoulders to place the wings behind them and it took me a long time and that clip was less than 40 seconds… I just ordered a copy of the DVD – anyone putting that much effort into a project deserves to have their work appreciated.
Posted: Sun, 16th Nov 2003, 4:35pm

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I don't believe Cult Effects is being offered anymore for After Effects -- or maybe it's for PC only, no Mac. Anybody know where one could be had???

FRED
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2003, 4:28am

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Not a very good trailer by my standards, but very ambitious Ian, I commend you for that.

Good luck.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 1:53am

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Aw man, I dont have dvd playback on PC right now nd I was looking forward to seeing this, oh well hope all your 3D adventures are going well b4uAsk
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 2:00am

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Ok, I just downloaded a player and WOW! It was really well done, Im assuming you used the plugins you showed me. Fantastic job for the limitations.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 3:23am

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The only part that works with the 3d glasses is when he has the little machine gun and is shooting close to the camera. Annd the weird alien POV chasing shot. Meh - -
Posted: Fri, 21st Nov 2003, 11:16pm

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Alright...

I'll give you a 2. Here's why.

I'll give you the bad news first.

Bad:
I don't see why you made it a point to do it in 3D. It feels like a grueling effort but a waste of time in this trailer. As far as the movie itself: from the trailer, I get no storyline whatsoever...it just seems like some dudes in tee-shirts surrounded by some dudes in camo in some unused lots in or behind a neighborhood. I could even see the houses in the background.

Also, I think the editing could have been much tighter...especially for a trailer. There were some dragged out shots that could be trimmed significantly on the ends. For example, "I'm not afraid of nothin" - he just sits there for like 4 more seconds after he says it. Why? Also, why are those guys just standing around....everyone just points their guns at the camera and stares...that's unintersting and cliched. Use some more interesting shots (if there are any) from your film to take up those spaces. This way you pack some action and some cool stuff into your trailer instead of filling it with dead space so the music will fit.

Don't get me wrong, but this is a comedy yea? If it is, it's not funny enough. If it isn't, sorry I asked, but it seemed like an attempt at comedy to me. If you were going for comedy, you should have added something that's funny to other people, not just those who were in it. Granted, it is a trailer and I suppose the entire film COULD be better than this...I hesitate to find out, however: as this trailer is not persuasive. It definitely does not make me want to see an hour long version of it, in fact it does just the opposite. I'm sure your goal was to get people to want to see your film after watching this, given that you advertise the DVD on the end of it. Next time think a little more about your audience and what they'd enjoy seeing.

And those computer graphics with the earth and the ship were pretty bad. Ask some of the other members of this site to help you with it, cause whatever that was did not work. It's too jarring to switch from that to a camcorder look.

Good:

It is, however, commendable that you could get so many people together for such a project. (+1 point) I have a tough time getting 3-4 people together for a short piece. You say this film is an hour long?? Good job for at least completing it. (+1 point) And distributing it on DVD, even better job. (+1 point) Sound wasn't bad either...except the dialogue - too muffled. (-1 point) Oops, that last part should have gone in the bad too.

1+1+1-1 = 2 points from me.

I was also wondering if you've actually sold any of those DVDs. If you have, I am supremely impressed and surprised. And relatives and girlfriends don't count when answering that last question.

I don't mean to rip this apart, I just mean to give you constructive criticism. By putting your film up on here, you're asking for it, and I hope it helps you become a better filmmaker. Take from it what you will.

Sincerely,

A.J. Rickert-Epstein
Posted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2003, 9:07am

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b4uask30male

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Hi,

I'll say this now, as I should have said it on this post ( altough i have said it on other posts )

THE TRAILER WAS JUST TO SHOW THE 100'S OF PEOPLE THAT PM'D ME ASKING TO SEE SOMETHING IN 3D.

Thats all, not a proper trailer as I didn't want to give anything away from the full 1 hour version, there is the 27 min version online, if people like that then they are welcome to buy the 1 hour version with and without 3D.

This may surprise you, but in the outside world ( away from here ) where people watch my films without a veiw on commenting on them ( And sadly I'm guilty of that on here, I watch a film with pen in hand thinking i'm doing them a favour by pointing out houses in the background ) when in fact there was no need to point it out ( 1. Houses are everywhere, 2. they was still on earth on that clip )
But the people on the outside world just sit and watch, and they enjoy it more.
I've sold 4 dvd's to people i've never met through PAY Pal, and the DVD is not even finished.

4 DVD'S yep, hands up ( including top hollywood films) can say they have pre-sold a film before it was finished. .....

Eitherway thanks for your comments, please don't take this the wrong way, just hoping that the next person reads this before posting much the same as you.

Thanks
b4
Posted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2003, 5:23pm

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b4uask30male wrote:

hands up ( including top hollywood films) can say they have pre-sold a film before it was finished. .....
Amazon presells thousands of DVD's before they are finished/released.
Posted: Sat, 22nd Nov 2003, 9:09pm

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b4uask30male

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Really,

I'll put my order in now for Rocky 10 tard
Posted: Sun, 23rd Nov 2003, 4:12pm

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You do that.
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 3:30pm

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Maybe a 5 was a bit high, but honestly! you changed the history! this have to be the first 3D amature film, its actully the first ive seen ever! It took me some time to find glasses but great work!
Posted: Sun, 25th Apr 2004, 11:05pm

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can u send me the cult plugin? i got it... but it doesnt work right. i would really appresiate it!
thanks
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2004, 1:12am

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jstow222

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Can we order the DVD yet?
Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2004, 8:58pm

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stealthmindz

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never mind... i got it... But how do u make only like...a section of ur movie 3D? with masking in know... but how?
Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2004, 12:20am

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jstow222

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Well, there is a 3D Glasses filter in AE, but this takes a very long time because you need to make adjustments to almost every frame you want 3D. I have done very short clips and it takes a long time.
Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2004, 1:24am

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i have the 3D plugin... but if a have a movie clip... that is... like what u did... the person hold ing the gun at the screen sayin :

an ill bloody well shoot yah

only the gun is 3D... how do i do just a section of the clip 3d???

thank u so much!
Posted: Wed, 28th Apr 2004, 6:33am

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b4uask30male

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mask every single frame around the gun.