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5.1 embedded movie, possible?

Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2003, 7:06pm

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Thegame826

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was wondering if theres a way i can make a 5.1 encoded movie? yes i have a dvd burner. but what program would i need to use?
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2003, 8:22pm

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besweet will let you encode multiple audio files into an ac3 file (the dolby digital standard for multichannel audio) it's freeware, just pop it into google or goto dvdrhelp.com to find it. you can mux your ac3 file with an avi using nandub, or with an mpg video stream for dvd with pretty much any dvd building software.
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2003, 8:40pm

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Hi
my Stargate openday film on here is 5.1 and my Starship Troopers Smoothnecks is also 5.1 dolby digital.
I used vegas 4, I've found not many people at all have the 5.1, shame they put so much effort into fx's but neglect the sound sad
Posted: Mon, 17th Nov 2003, 10:28pm

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anonymous

If you want definitive Dolby Digital mixing and encoding, opt for DVD Stuido Pro 2 for the Apple platform. Otherwise, Sonic Reel DVD Pro has some options as well. Vegas 4's setup is fairly simplisitic.
Posted: Tue, 18th Nov 2003, 5:59pm

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VegasVideo 4 + DV, is the way to go.
It can output 5.1 DD EX ac3 files, and it can encode 5.1 WMV files.

Vegas 4's setup is fairly simplisitic.
I'm afraid I disagree with that, how can you define a programme which has better 5.1 encoding capabilites?

I've used it in all my movies since I found out about it, one disadvantage is it doesn't encode Pro-Logic Sterio files however this can be down easily aswell.
Posted: Tue, 18th Nov 2003, 8:46pm

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Thegame826

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awsome. thanks for the help guys.

b4uask30male for sure ill be checking out ur videos soon. ill let you knwo what i think.
Posted: Tue, 18th Nov 2003, 8:51pm

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Hi,
sorry the online versions are not 5.1 sad for me to put a 5.1 online version would have been window media player 9 and the file size for my 27 min film would have been 1.2gb, so for the sake of the online i just made a normal wmv file which is only 60mb.

Sorry, I will be putting a thriller online next week, it's only 5 mins I'll do 2 versions for the web, a 5.1 and a smaller normal one.

Yeha vegas ROCKS smile
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 6:54pm

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TAP2

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I'll put togethor a 5.1 WMV or AC3 file, but i'd need a host.
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2003, 6:08pm

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Riese

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Premiere Pro does Dolby Digital surround sound. It's pretty nice and is easy to set up.

Riese
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 6:40pm

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TAP2

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Seems that premire pro can do everything!

Ah well... I prefur VegasVID.
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 6:43pm

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TAP2 wrote:

Seems that premire pro can do everything!
Except run on anything earlier than a PIII or Athlon XP.

You can also get 5.1 plugins for earlier versions of premiere.
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 7:59pm

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TAP2

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Lol, but most people serious about film making would go out and buy a fast computer....

I'm sure you can, but I've never been a Permiere user so I wouldn't know,
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 5:08am

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And Premiere Pro doesn't run on Windows 2000 Professional. So I'm sitting here with version 6.0.
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 8:33am

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Jambalaya! wrote:

And Premiere Pro doesn't run on Windows 2000 Professional. So I'm sitting here with version 6.0.
I find that hard to believe... surely Premiere Pro runs on Win2000?????
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 4:16pm

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Nope. I've been hoping that it does run on Windows 2000 Pro. According to everything Adobe has published - looks like a no go.
Software like Photoshop CS and After Effects 6 still run on Photoshop thank goodness.
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 6:58pm

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TAP2

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Well then downgrade to windows 2000...?
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 8:56pm

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anonymous

Oops, I meant Photoshop CS and After Effects 6 still run on Windows 2000. Anyways, Windows XP runs on the same base kernel as NT and 2000, so that's why there is usually 2000 / XP compatibility.
Most small business production companies on Windows still use 2000, so Adobe is cutting themselves off from a market-share. I personally use 2000 by choice, I have an unopened retail Windows XP Professional sitting on a shelf.

(hehe, this is a bit off the original topic)
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 9:59pm

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TAP2

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then sell it quick, someone'll give you a fair amount for that...
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 3:04am

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Hahahaha. Well I'm keeping it as back up for any unforseen problems in the future.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 4:19am

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unforseen?

this post talks about software not running on 2000 and only XP.....

programs for PC will most likely move to only PC...with updated OS systems the older ones dissapear...what can windowns 95 still run? nothing almost....

same thing will happen

-MAGIC
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 4:57am

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anonymous

Microsoft is still currently supporting Windows 2000, and I believe they will continue to do so for a while. Most small businesses still use it, heck some are still on NT 4.0.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 7:07am

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Yeah 2000 has plenty of life in it. They only just stopped selling win 2k pro as an upgrade for xp and until win server 2003 becomes stable anyone with a server will prolly be keeping their networks on 2000.

I have heard very mixed reports about premiere pro. Because it is a rewrite rather than simply an improved version it has new features but also loses some and has a lot of changes as well as these compatibility issues.

As for 5.1 support, everyone seems to want it but I am yet to see anyone using it properly or for more than just a gimmick. Stereo already lets you do a certain amount of positioning of audio but people don't seem to bother with it especially with the extra hassle of sound recording to do it properly. I think people would be better off improving their video editing technically before they start making a half assed attempt at 5.1 sound just to claim their clip is in surround sound.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 7:36pm

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anonymous

Right on, Kid!
In addition, to hear 5.1 Dolby Digital (AC-3) or matrixed Dolby Digital EX, you'll need a decoder onboard your comp (so, something on the lines of Sound Blaster Live 5.1 through Audigy 2 ZS). This, plus the need for a 5.1 speaker system.

If you're watching or hooking up via A/V receiver, then that's another issue. Recent A/V products come equipped with Dolby Pro-Logic II or the newly released Pro-Logic IIx variant, so native stereo would probably suffice.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 8:22pm

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where can one find the plugin for earlier premiere products to do 5.1


cheers devilskater
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 9:34pm

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anonymous

Not exactly sure, but I remember reading somewhere that it costs a whopping $300 (although this has probably changed).