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What programs do you use to edit your movies?

What editing software do u use?

Final Cut Pro18%[ 21 ]
Adobe Premiere36%[ 43 ]
Vegas18%[ 21 ]
Pinnacle Studio6%[ 7 ]
IMovie2%[ 2 ]
other21%[ 25 ]

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Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 7:41pm

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Brettsta

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What editing software do u use?
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 7:46pm

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Andreas

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Premiere all the way
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 7:48pm

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Premiere @ home

Final Cut Pro 4 @ School

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 8:41pm

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I use Pinnacle Studio 7 (first thing i learned on and very cheap for what it does) and Premiere 6.5.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 8:44pm

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I use Ulead Media Studio Pro 7, for first editing stage.
Vegas Video 4 + DV for second editing stage.
(making the best off two programmes biggrin )
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 9:00pm

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Ichi The Killer

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Spent nearly 2k on a copy of AVID, best £2000 I ever spent and if its good enough for Peter Jackson and the Lord of The Rings team it's good enough for me smile

Top of the line NLE package absolutely brilliant to work with if only a little complicated.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 9:42pm

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Does anyone here use Express besides me? I've never heard about it on this site, and was just wondering.

S.D.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 9:46pm

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we all know taht final cut is the best
unsure wink
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 9:57pm

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Adobe Premiere 6.5 wink
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 9:58pm

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Premiere all the way. Far more powerful than anything on the market.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 10:04pm

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Marek

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Premiere is also far more confusing for a beginner. I hope for the new premeire that they make it easier to understand. And i dont mean the type of understanding that requires a book. But after you get past that, Premiere is the best.biggrin
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 10:17pm

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I didn't read any books or anything and it only took me like 1 week to get the basics about cutting and transitions and such. I find it quite easy.
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 10:48pm

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Just wondering, what does Premiere have that Final Cut doesn't? Or is it just the platform difference making the choice for us?
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 10:53pm

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pooky wrote:

Premiere all the way. Far more powerful than anything on the market.
What are you talking about?

Premiere is very basic compared to Final Cut Pro 3 (and I expect looks like a baby alongside Final Cut Pro 4).
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 11:05pm

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I will say it once, and will probably say this again:

it doesnt matter, as long as it does something!!!

use your head. I was using MGI Video Wave 3 for a looonng time. Got it to do some basic stuff that Premiere does easily. I made do with what i had....but now, i am at Premiere, and i am NOT going back to Video Wave...heh


I used Videowave and photoshop


now i use premiere, photoshop, and anything else i can find
Posted: Wed, 19th Nov 2003, 11:05pm

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sfbmovieco

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Yah...While I do use Premiere, it is NOT far more powerful than anything on the market...I dont know where you would get that idea?
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2003, 3:19am

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anonymous

Pinnacle 8DV
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2003, 5:03am

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er-no
you rule i use final cut also and it is WAY better than premeire i have used it in school and premeire does not have that many options. it is all about final cut. i mean common the edited X-men 2 with it. so how can you go wrong with final
PEACE OUT to all final cut users
and good luck premire users (we all hope you will see the glory of final cut)
lol[/b]
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2003, 6:43am

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I would defenly use FinalCut if I had a mac, but the problem is, I AINT GOT ONE tard
Posted: Thu, 20th Nov 2003, 9:14am

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I was thinking of getting a Mac laptop & buying final cut, but at the mo I'm using Premiere & After Effects 5.5

Eventually I do want to buy Avid DV, because I've used it & loved it.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 6:48pm

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Ichi The Killer

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Ok do any of you know anything about post production at all?

I think you'll find That AVID is the most powerfull NLE software on the market (ok it's also the most expensive) so how can you say that second grade NLE software like Premiere and FCP3 are the "best" because this is simply not true -

I pitty You......

You guy's are in for one massive shock if you actually ever become Pro Editors because i can tell you now you won't ever be working with no Adobe Premiere.

(No I'm not a pro editor but I did do a 2yr apprentiship with one so I know my Shitt bittch)

twisted
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 8:36pm

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TAP2

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To be honest, hardly any of you are making pro-level films.
Therefore, you don't need AVID or Finalcut Pro.
You'll get just as good results using Premiere, Vegas etc. They're as featured packed as you'll need.

AVID and Finalcutpro are designed for motion picture editing, ultra-high resolution editing. Remember, most of you are only editing at 720*576, not 2048*1536

It's just a personal opinion, but there's no point in owning (or owning a pirate version) of FinalCutPro4, if all you're gonna do is boast about it biggrin
There's NO WAY i'd spend that amount of money, or even bother downloading it because I don't need it. I'm quite happy with my UleadMedia Studio Pro and Vegas Vid.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 8:42pm

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Bowie

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It is funny. Funny, how teens have more invested in software than I have equity in my house. I don't know many students with a few extra thoudand dollars to throw around to make light sabre test movies. Maybe they can tell me where they shop:)
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 10:21pm

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I have this program called Video Explosion Deluxe. It's a fairly basic editor, it has some filters for the video. I don't care that it isn't top of the line, because I don't need it to be, as many have said. For what I do, it is good enough. There is only one thing that I wish it could do, which is reverse footage. I was pissed when I found out it couldn't do that (and still am!).

To all you people that justify an editor based on what great movie used it, I wouldn't call that a great argument. Just about any of those films were great for reasons beyond editting. Yes, they happened to use one program over the others, but I'm pretty sure they could have done the editting on any of them. Just seems to be tenuous evidence at best.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 10:43pm

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TAP2

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I'm a student and You'd be suprised how easy it is to get your hands on a bunch of stuff.

My Camera I bought for the full price off the NET - around £600 at the time.
I then bought a Firewire Kit, for £180 - With a FW Card, Ulead MSP6.5, Animation Master, CoolEdit Pro and a few other stuff.
I then picked up Cinema4D off a magazine, and many other programmes of mags.


A rich m8 shared Vegas Vid & After Effects with me... smile
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 11:55pm

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Premiere 6.0 and I wouldn't have it any other way. Adobe really struck a chord with their 6.0 version as 6.5 detracts in some ways (without any real pros) and pro is just ugly and bulky.

Oh, and yes, AVID IS much better...but that won't help you if you dont have any skill/style/understanding of editing. The programs aid you to doing things easier, but they do not make a film better. I've seen hollywood productions using multi-million dollar software I'm sure, and the editing sucked and I know I can, and i HAVE done better. An example? Watch the Cat in the Hat. Awful editing.
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 5:46am

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MidnightJester

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Actually, I'd suggest you DON'T see The Cat in the Hat.

I haven't seen it yet, and don't plan on it. Why must they trash such a classic children's book by stretching it into a movie? Why?! I guess now would be the time to correct me if it was actually good, but somehow I doubt it. Besides, I wouldn't listen to you anyway!
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 7:50am

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potman

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Hang on a sec.......

Lets not forget the largely underestimated Final Cut Express!!!

In my opinion the best editing suite for its price. It's just a slightly warted down version of FCP 3........at a great price.
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 12:58pm

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Yep! I'm a Final Cut Express user also.

What is all this nonsense anyway? What the hell does editing ability have to do with software. If you can edit, you can do it with iMovie or Microsoft Movie Maker (if you like). If you can't - Final Cut, Premiere Pro or AVID is not going to turn you into Walter Murch. Software helps us out - it is a tool. Not an end in itself. Is a Ferrari owner a better driver than you, or does he just have more money?

FCE came in at a price point I could just about justify spending. Forking out a thousand on FCP4, or even more on Premiere or Avid would be completely unjustified in my position. Sure, Final Cut Pro 4 looks great and I would love to get my hands on it but for now FCE strikes the right balance of professional interface and features scaled to suit the DV end of the market.

After all, it is DV that I'm working with. I'm not shooting on film, HDCAM or DVCPRO.

It is odd that this pissing match over editing software doesn't really encompass the fact that the vast majority are shooting their opus on £500 palmcorders. Which is of course, just fine. Strange then that they should edit with £2K+ software packages.

Echoing comments made earlier, I find it particularly interesting how such an enormous investment in expensive software has been made by so many for the singular purpose of thirty second sabre movies.

Obviously the lucky beneficiaries of staggeringly indulgent parents and patrons.

Oh, you did pay for it - didn't you?
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 5:08pm

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anonymous

MidnightJester: Yes, your assumption is correct that Cat in the Hat is a bad movie. It's one of the worst films i've seen in a decade. /me pukes

jamesgrahamuk wrote:

What is all this nonsense anyway? What the hell does editing ability have to do with software?
Exactly what I'm saying.
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 5:09pm

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Bah. I think that's the first time i've posted without being logged in for some odd reason.
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 4:19am

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Currently cant hook-up my camera to my computer [will be able to in two days] but at school we use Mac Mini's and Final Cut Express and two of the editors are iMac's with Final Cut Pro [I didnt get to use those last year]. I love Final Cut Express and if I ever get a Mac I'll be sure to get it.
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 5:00am

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*Looks at Cypher's post date
02 Dec 2003 03:09
*Looks at Anne's post date
14 Aug 2006 14:19
This thread has been dead for a long time razz
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 5:10am

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Anne

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Yes, I searched editing software on the search engine, and thought I might as well revive this one than start a new one. smile
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 7:11am

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You did better than most by searching wink


Here, have a
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 10:41am

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Digerati Media wrote:

You did better than most by searching wink
Amen. Always preferable to dig up a "dead" thread where lots of information is already posted than start it all over.
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 12:32pm

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Wow this is old! eek

But anyway this is what we have:
My brother and I are getting a MacBook with Final Cut Express, we will also have iMovie and of course EffectsLab (Pro).

Jabooza Clog Booza (The other editor for our 'company')
Has Windows Movie Maker, Pinnacle, and also EffectsLab Pro.
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 2:33pm

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Does Premiere Elements count?
Posted: Mon, 14th Aug 2006, 2:52pm

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Darth Penguin wrote:

Wow this is old! eek

But anyway this is what we have:
My brother and I are getting a MacBook with Final Cut Express, we will also have iMovie and of course EffectsLab (Pro).
smile Just a note - Never capture in iMovie then import captured clips into Final Cut Pro 4.5 or express. A whole host of problems will arise with the sound/bit ratio and rendering.
Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 3:10am

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Windows Movie Maker.

it all started with that!
Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 3:19am

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Premiere is the best editing software on the market simply because I use it.

I will not respond positively to any view which does not precisely match my own because I am over-protective of software which ultimately provides the same end result.

Any statistical information or famous person using any other software, clearly does so because they view themselves as 'on a lower level' than me and don't use the same software out of a will to not offend my majesty.

Surely this was all obvious.

-Hybrid.
Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 6:37am

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thats it, when i upgrade my stupid computer (no its not a DELL) i'm getting Premiere just like Hybrid-Halo razz


Sony Vegas 6 for capturing and editing
Sony DVD Architect for making DVDs (shock)
EffectsLab Pro for FX (shock 2: the sequel)

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Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 6:59am

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Digerati, if you already own Vegas 6, why switch to Premiere? It seems like a waste of money.

Why buy something to edit with when you already own a program that does the exact same thing. The interfaces are nearly the same, same movable windows (timeline, preview screen, project media) in Premiere.
Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 7:24am

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I use adobe premiere, I love it
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TAP2 wrote:

To be honest, hardly any of you are making pro-level films.
Therefore, you don't need AVID or Finalcut Pro.
You'll get just as good results using Premiere, Vegas etc. They're as featured packed as you'll need.

AVID and Finalcutpro are designed for motion picture editing, ultra-high resolution editing. Remember, most of you are only editing at 720*576, not 2048*1536

It's just a personal opinion, but there's no point in owning (or owning a pirate version) of FinalCutPro4, if all you're gonna do is boast about it biggrin
There's NO WAY i'd spend that amount of money, or even bother downloading it because I don't need it. I'm quite happy with my UleadMedia Studio Pro and Vegas Vid.
I strongly dissagree with this statement. True hardly anyone is making pro-level films. There's only a certain amount of progression you can do with Imovie when you need something better. Why limit yourself to a cheap program, when you have the opprotunity to use something where you can progress way more and probly way faster. I think this is a silly, and I think that this topic is very relevent for amature filmmakers.

I use avid free dv..he he its way better than IMovie, and def better than windows movie maker. But it is free so yes of course it has its limitations but its layout is more professional then the alternatives. Thats why I like it....
Posted: Tue, 15th Aug 2006, 10:31am

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I'm not going to get Premiere (not in the foreseeable future) and definately not because someone else uses it (no matter how cool they are razz)


Also, I thought that I put a "razz" smiley after it so I have edited my post to reflect my original intentions biggrin
Posted: Sat, 19th Aug 2006, 9:53pm

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I use premeire and windows movie maker. you know for different things. sci-fi fanfilms or just video editing for generally family stuff! i guess it's just what mood i am in!
Posted: Sun, 20th Aug 2006, 12:42am

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I use Vegas. I like it alot
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I use FCP, though in 2003 I would've said iMovie. Anyways, for the sake of discussion: what's the best capturing workflow in FCP? In my last project I captured with the next newest iMovie, dragged the clips into FCP and it was fine, though I knew it wasn't the best workflow. Evman said to me once he watched the tapes, wrote down the good takes/ones he wanted captured and inputted them. Is this the best thing to do in FCP because capturing the whole tape to scratch disk is a little bit rough on the HD space.
Posted: Sun, 20th Aug 2006, 2:37am

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Vegas baby, Vegas.
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I'm a vegas man
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Video Explosion Deluxe
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Serpent wrote:

I use FCP, though in 2003 I would've said iMovie. Anyways, for the sake of discussion: what's the best capturing workflow in FCP? In my last project I captured with the next newest iMovie, dragged the clips into FCP and it was fine, though I knew it wasn't the best workflow. Evman said to me once he watched the tapes, wrote down the good takes/ones he wanted captured and inputted them. Is this the best thing to do in FCP because capturing the whole tape to scratch disk is a little bit rough on the HD space.
Do not capture into imovie then move the files into Final Cut Pro.

This can cause all sorts of audio and rendering problems. There is no such thing as a 'shortcut' with editing, watch through the footage and take notes with timecodes, capturing what you need, or indeed - capture the entire tape with FCP and dv/in/out point detect the clip and work from their using markers as new takes.

smile
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Roxio VideoWave 7
Posted: Thu, 24th Aug 2006, 11:12pm

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I just got Premiere, I think its pretty good but I have to say I got pretty darn annoyed at it, for like the first time in my life I actually looked in the book!
Posted: Fri, 25th Aug 2006, 5:19pm

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Serpent, whoever told you to use that way is "mostly" correct, as it's the way most professionals will do it, .. I recommend using whatever way you find to be the best for your way of thinking. Though I am familiar with and sometimes use that method, I prefer to capture as one whole clip and cut down from there, making new independant clips and subclips from them and so forth.

Just figure out what you like the most.

Then again, if you are working with someone else, it might be helpful to use a standard way to not get each other confused.

In short, tailor your method to your project. No single way is the best for everything.