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Toy Wars: The Phantom Scalper Menace

Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 10:13am

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"TOY WARS: THE PHANTOM SCALPER MENACE" takes place approximately two years after "A NEW COLLECTOR." The seven month deadline has passed for the Dommonick Hollie Enterprises (DHE) scalpers in trying to obtain one of the two rare toy variant action figures, the black suit Princess Leia in slave gear (aka the black slave Leia) valued at an unprecedented $5 million due to the controversy over the name and the rarity of the toy. If the Master Scalper Dommonick Hollie and DHE get a hold of the toy, it means the end of the Collectors. The undercover organization would have enough money to control all toy shipments routing directly to DHE forcing toy sales to reach over triple their worth in the secondary toy market while no store in America carrying Star Wars toys would carry them anymore.

In between "A NEW COLLECTOR" and "THE PHANTOM SCALPER MENACE" Mark Gallagher (Matthew Czaplinski) has been learning the ways of the collectors from John Bolo (Jim Rothman) and strengthening his skills in the toy runs that are a daily effort against DHE.

One day an old friend approaches Mark unannounced that there is trouble and that he must seek the master of all collectors to resolve the conflict before it's too late. In the process a revelation will be brought to Mark that will test his true faith in the Collectors Union.

Mark can not take on the scalpers alone. His friends John Bolo, Ada Oregano (Katie Ward), Randy Crimson (Josh Belcher) and Admiral Beanie (Michael Czaplinski) will have to stand up to DHE.

The Final Movie xpected to run 2 hours. We used AlamDV for the muzzle flashes and After effects for other effects for other stuff.
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Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 10:35am

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Although I'm unfamiliar with the original, these trailers were highly entertaining. If the finished product keeps up the pace and humour, then it should be well worth watching.

I particularly liked some of the puppetry (Blue Yoda!), which was simultaneously effective, cool and hilarious. The movie looks to have been made by people who had a lot of fun, which has come across on camera.

In terms of trailer design, these are excellent. Nicely edited, good use of music, good narrative progression through the trailer that keeps you interested and builds to a climax. Actually a lot better than most mainstream movie trailers these days. Good stuff, looking forward to the final product - whether the pace and entertainment can be maintained over 2 hours+ will be interesting to see.
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 8:53pm

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Good stuff man. I saw these trailers way back on TFN Fan Films(I'm Jedi_Kyeju) and I am very excited to see the finished film. Great job.

Another thing I love about this movie...the character's name. I'm a Gallagher too biggrin .
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 9:09pm

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woah that looks great, an 2 hr movie, you r gonna be avible to buy it on DVD i hope! Well, There isn't any more fun then nerds, I love nerds, specielly nerds in movies, and this seem to be a good movie so, two thumbs up!
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 9:12pm

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That's great! What a perfect intro too!

I'm not going to rate it though, it's only a trailer - - -

What's the DHE? Those guys in the parking ramp place who wore them were pretty funny.
Posted: Mon, 24th Nov 2003, 9:41pm

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Very very good!
Awsome Camera shots. over all it was sweat
i am very excited for it
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i am going to watch it agian lol
peace out
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 2:31am

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coolness biggrin
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 3:27am

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Very well done. Love the camera shots...one that really caught my eye was the pan fromt he ground up to where the two cars drive by, looked very pro. Again like Tarn said if you guys can pull of all the humour an excitement through the full video this is gonna be great. Also like the locations you guys got to film at such as the dance club and etc..good work guys.
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 6:05am

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Wow, this is really sweet!!!

I got a quick question and I think I found the right person to ask. I want to record a voiceover for something I'm working on. I want to get the best quality possible without feedback in the background. Any program recomondations or tips would be a huge help. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!

DAN
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 9:50am

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Excellent trailer! In my opinion the most complete film trailer up on FXHome. Great visuals, good acting, funny when it's ment to be, very well edited, Pro-feel The attention to script and overall effort is superb, hope that the final film maintains this high standard. What more can I say? Congrat's. 5 from me.
Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 3:57pm

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Thanks so much for all the wonderful comments. It truly means a lot to hear such great things from you all.

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Posted: Tue, 25th Nov 2003, 10:57pm

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Wow!! What else is there to say? Great Job..
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 8:06am

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wow i give it 5 stars awsome job. i can't wait till the final movie comes out.
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 4:35pm

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I recently saw the Toy Wars Trailor and was taken back by the quality of film in many parts. I was wondering if anyone knew what camera they used 2 shoot this, and also, what effect did they add 2 all the footage to give it that professional fuzzy feeling??? Thanks
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 4:49pm

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This looks awesome! Can't wait to see it
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 5:45pm

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I cant wait to see it downloading the largest version now! looks great and with an average of 5 from 7 gold users now its gotta be good.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 6:08am

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WOW!

What Greybro said.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 4:55pm

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We used the Sony PD-150 all the way. There's a couple scenes shot with the Sony TRV-900, but we immediately switched to the PD-150 after it came in the mail. The quality is far better.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 5:52pm

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A very well put together trailer, excellently structured. Yet I really have some sort of passion against most Star Wars fan movies. Just my own bad I guess. Anyways, I do see lots of positives from this trailer yet with your abilities at editing and obvious skills with the camera... are we meant to take it seriously or with jest? I'm not too sure!?
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 6:32pm

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I laughed my ass off with all the admiral Beanie stuff. Especially when he fights those two red shirted DHE guys and slides across the whole hallway on his back matrix-style.... lol and then turns and slides out the door as everyone stares at him funny... hahaha
Anyway, very nice trailer It looked very professional. If I rate it I'll be sure to give it 5 out of 5
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 7:27pm

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That was...


Seriously Awesome, i hope you upload the full move to the net.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 8:19pm

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first when i saw i was like whoah, and then my bro like waooo and then i was again like whoa.(Finding nemo)

well anyway nice job dude. I recoginze that trailer music perhaps its from lotr 3. Whats the name of that title, is it on the soundtrack?

well well done mate

cheerio devilskater
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 9:00pm

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What did you use for the crane shots?
Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2003, 4:36pm

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I was kinda wondering about the song too. Is it from Lord of the Rings? What is it called, cus i think i heard it in another alamdv movie too. Band of Fellows, i think.

Great movie trailer tho.
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2003, 12:33am

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its called like reqium for a dream, lord of the rings trailer music
Posted: Sat, 29th Nov 2003, 8:52am

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We used a Promax DV Jib arm. It cost us about $600, but it's hella sweet when you get to learn little tricks with it. It's so cinematic with the results you can get.

That song for the trailer is from Requiem for a Dream, yes. And yes it was used in the Lord of the Rings Two Towers trailer. I love that music. it's so dramatic!

Thanks for the comments! I can't believe you all like it so much! That means a lot to me! smile
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 6:58am

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You're finished already!! Dude- you just started doing your keying a few months ago! Wow- that was fast. Anyways, nice stuff Ryan. Looking forward to the finished product.

Jeremy
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 3:21pm

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Interesting Trailer. The trailerdesign really is quite cool and shows a good sense for timing, wich is great.

It is clearly visible that you put a lot of effort and time in this.


The trailers itself didn't do much for me though. Might be cause I'm not much a star wars fan and the humor wasn't my kind of humor either.

What was a bit a letdown was the very different quality. While some shots looked absolutely flawless and fantastically designed, shot, lightet and acted, others looked like the average backyard production. Probably due to the long production time I'd guess, where the learing process is so clearly visible.


So all in all a well done trailer!

Good luck with the final film
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 6:33pm

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Not finished yet! The keying has just begun!

On the comment about some shots looking fantastic and others like a backyard production... well... We didn't have much to work with on some of our sets, so we pretty much had to deal with what we had to work with and shoot. One shoot was in a parking garage and the producer didn't bring the tripod and said it would look fine just using the steadycam. It would mean less setup time to do other shots. He regretted using it after seeing the dailys on that shoot. I did warn about the shots not going to look still. So that may be one of the things you saw. Of course this was all shot in 6 years time, so we're constantly learning from our mistakes and improving upon them throughout.
Posted: Sun, 30th Nov 2003, 6:54pm

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I thought so. Thats always a problem with production that take so long. You keep learning new stuff and the quality between the first and the last shots can be totall different.

Yet if you manage to hold the quality you clearly show in certain parts, you have a great piece of film at your hands. No doubt. smile
Posted: Mon, 1st Dec 2003, 12:45am

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what did u use for the audio? which mics did you use for it?......and did you use a recording device like minidisk or just use the camera? i would really like to know becuase the sound in this is reallly good and ive been tryin to figure out what i need to get for sound like this....thanks
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 4:56pm

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Great Job

I cant wait to see the full version of the movie. As Always trailers get a 3 from me.

Riese
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 5:17pm

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Anyway thanks for watching, I really appreciate the comments!

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Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 5:24pm

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Lots of people seem to see trailers as a 'lesser art' when, in fact, they are still very difficult things to craft, requiring a fair bit of skill.

For proof of how difficult it is to make decent trailers, you only have to look to the rubbishy trailers you see in mainstream cinemas. I can count the good trailers we've had this year on one hand - X2, Return of the King, Rules of Attraction...
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 5:37pm

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This is most probably a result of the voting system, where the archive suggests to put whole features, shortfilms, test and trailers in the same bag. But this has been discussed for ages. wink




btw niennumb1:

I'm sure other people would appreciate your comments on their films too when you obviosuly have watched them! wink
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 8:40pm

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Tarn wrote:

Lots of people seem to see trailers as a 'lesser art' when, in fact, they are still very difficult things to craft, requiring a fair bit of skill.

For proof of how difficult it is to make decent trailers, you only have to look to the rubbishy trailers you see in mainstream cinemas. I can count the good trailers we've had this year on one hand - X2, Return of the King, Rules of Attraction...
There have been some other good trailers out this year. The Troy teaser looks great, the phone booth trailer got me interested instantly and while I think the Return of the King trailer is "rubbish", the X2 one is very good.
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 8:48pm

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Cypher wrote:

There have been some other good trailers out this year. The Troy teaser looks great, the phone booth trailer got me interested instantly and while I think the Return of the King trailer is "rubbish", the X2 one is very good.
Yep, Troy is pretty good. Nice epic stuff going on there. Although the boat shot looks more silly than awe-inspiring (might look better on the big screen).

Phone Booth was also a good trailer. Shame I never got to see that, due to my local cinemas mucking up repeatedly.

Why don't you like the RotK trailer? I think it's very effective, nicely paced to music, a good selection of 'money' shots, a mixture of effects, action and 'acting bits', all without giving away much of the plot by keeping most things out of context. Plus it has a nice narrative running through the trailer.

X2 had 2 very classy trailers. Also surprisingly gutsy trailers - certainly not the type you expect to see with a big blockbuster movie (check out the appalling Hulk trailers for the flipside). Choice of music in both X2 trailers was brilliant...as was starting the main one off with the scene at Bobby's apartment, rather than some big action shot.

Still...that's not many decent trailers, considering how many films have come out! I'd rate this fanfilm trailer as vastly better and more effective than most of the mainstream trailers this year, bar the ones mentioned above.
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 10:21pm

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Actually I have not seen a lot of the films on this site. I will be soon and commenting as well with my vote.

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Posted: Wed, 3rd Dec 2003, 4:23pm

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There are a couple of reasons why I give trailers only 3's. One I dont believe a trailer should be in the top 10. I think if you have the capability to make a good trailer then the full length version should be worth 5's easily. Second, many times people just put up a trailer then never release a final product for one reason or another. (I am quilty of this) So if a film maker wants a good review finish the product and I will gladly give a higher score. Finally I think that trailers play on emotion more than anything else. The music, the fast paced or quick edits, parts of dialog. I am have seen many trailers that are good and then the movie sucks. This is why I give trailers 3.

Riese
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 3:39am

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What's next.. giving short films a low rating because they are not "full length"?

We are rating what is posted and it's integrity. If it's good it deserves a 5 if it's crappy then it deserves less. When rating something it should be rated on it's quality regardless of what it is and if your going to give a low rating just because it's a trailer then you shouldn't be rating it!
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 3:49am

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I would also like to know what you guys used for audio recording.
Posted: Thu, 4th Dec 2003, 6:15am

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People have different aspects on what they vote on, Guest. It's their decisions.


Some people vote trailers low because their trailers, other people vote effect tests low beccause their "just" effect tests, others vote battle films low because they have no story, other people vote... and so on.

People vote differently. As long as they didn't vote randomly and their votes seem to have a consinstent system, I think thats fully okay.
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I think it's extremely annoying wink
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I see what your saying Sollthar, but i can also see where the guest is coming from. Why vote low on a trailer just because its a trailer? Imagine going to dinner with somebody and that person will order something that both you and him know, that he wont like the food that hes ordering. Then after he eats it he complains and tells you how bad it was and how he didnt like it. You would say... "If you knew u didnt like it and you were going to tell me how bad it was after you ate it.. then why the hell did u order it?.." and thats kinda how i feel about this topic. If you know you dont like what your about to watch and you know that your going to rate it badly reguardless... then why watch it?... Thats just my opinion. wink
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But to me a three on a trailer is great. I have given full length movies 3 and less. I just believe and this is my own thought that trailers should not be in the top 10. Also as far as giving short films three that is not the case. If the film is short and is a good view I will rate it high. Anyways I am done justifing what I do. I have been consitant in my ratings sense I made my decisions. Oh well

Riese
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Tigers are like animals.

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Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 6:23am

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6 years???!!!... damn son...
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CX3,

Yeah... We're all very.. um.. DONE with shooting if you know what I mean. We're so ready to move on to other stuff. WHen you have an ansemble of over 100 people involved it's hard working around freetime schedules.

We logged every day we shot and so far it's clocked in to over 93+ shoot days over these past years.
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thats sweet man
Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2003, 4:15pm

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The effects looked great.And nicely edited.
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It is wrong to vote down trailers.

We have sections in the movie archive so you can see which is the highest rated "test" or "trailer" - we can add a "feature" section if people want it?

The problem is that if we do add that section the trailers that were voted down will just muck everything up and give odd ratings. You should vote out of 5 for all movies otherwise it all just becomes a bit pointless. The same should go for tests as well as this is a special effects community before anything else - the sections in the archive can always be used to filter out tests and trailers.

Hope this clears things up smile
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The can be filtered, but it's still all in the same archive. So if people look at the unfiltered archive (wich is what I suppose most people do) they see all kind of different and imho uncomparable movies in the same bag.

Therefore I do undertand people voting differently. I must say, I do the same sometimes.
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can you make some of your wndow media player movies quicktime, because it seems that i can not watch your window media player versions, i download them but black only comes up and i can hear the voices and music. so please make it a quicktime file, so those of use that cant watch it can. thank you
peace out
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according to ur icons at the bottom of ur post, u have a pc, so why not just watch it on that?

TMM twisted
Posted: Tue, 16th Dec 2003, 10:09pm

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k that is the problem i have a PC also but it really sux and the inter net sucks on it. so i have a pc i just dont use it very much.
ya so i prefere that mac.
peace out
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ssjaaron wrote:

k that is the problem i have a PC also but it really sux and the inter net sucks on it. so i have a pc i just dont use it very much.
ya so i prefere that mac.
peace out
Download Windows Media Player for the Mac. Download it here and enjoy!

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1e974157-5031-4ac6-840a-6e07547b6aeb&DisplayLang=en
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Riese wrote:

There are a couple of reasons why I give trailers only 3's. One I dont believe a trailer should be in the top 10.
I completely disagree... But that's just me. Niemnumb1 is right that it is hard narrowing down a 2 hour movie to two minutes. It takes skill and effort, sometimes more than full movies on this website.I think if It is an incredible trailor (in which t his was) it should be voted based on that and not if it is a trailor or movie... Afterall, there are some movies shorter than trailors. If they are good, do you vote them bad because they are short...

In conclusion, Quality not Quantity is the main factor.

Im done wink
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"Download Windows Media Player for the Mac. Download it here and enjoy!"



Brettsta, Windows media player still is garbage for the mac though. I wish he would make a quicktime version. The wmv one always locks up.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Dec 2003, 8:49am

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Compliments, your film rocked, it was humorous at some points. I was slightly taken back by the Afro wigs and bad grammar characterization. However it was your voice and I won't debate what point you were trying to make or not make. If you truly desire to become a great writer/director exercise some thought in how you choose to portray people.

Again, I enjoyed it, but it left a bitter sting in my brain! I look forward to your feature and hope you will remember. It's your choice or not!
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niennumb1

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Eddie,

Actually I take great thought into how a character is portrayed. The Fro guy is obviously someone who doesn't know regular english well.

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Posted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2004, 7:48pm

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Very nice! Nicely done! cool

5 Stars from me!

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Posted: Mon, 2nd Feb 2004, 6:59am

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man this looks sweet. 5 stars from me, but Im not going to put it on my top 10 list because it's only a trailer, but I have a feeling there will be a place for it when the final product comes out
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 5:25am

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i wish there were more FXhome movies like this. it made me laugh, but was not stupid. the only thing i didnt like was the nerf guns. the film's avout toys, so its understandable, but still.. i just dont like the look.


great trailers! i really am looking forward to the full length movie.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 8:35pm

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Solid Snake

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That was pretty damn good, the effects were PERFECT

yeh it had toys, but i thought the trailer was magnificently done, well done,
and yes i look forward to the final production

good luck

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Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 7:07pm

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niennumb1

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Hey, guys. Thanks for the comments. Good or bad they really help me.

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Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 6:34am

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I actually thought the nerf guns were a nice touch
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 10:04pm

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Gibs

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Hey, great trailers, I especially liked the camera angles and lighting, they added a very professional look to the movie. My only complaint is on trailer C. The shots at the beginning looked strangely tinted purple, and the effect was a little uncomfortable on my eyes. It looked as if a purple pic was just overlayed on top of the footage. But this is not much of a deal.

I checked on the site, and it said the final edit was 5% done. Any ideas on how long it will take to finish the whole thing? 6 months, maybe?
Posted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2004, 7:27pm

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niennumb1

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I'm waiting to have our rough cut sreening before finalizing these scenes to definite.

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Posted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2004, 10:43pm

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alexstooges

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This trailer was great, looked like a professional made trailer.
looks like the camera must be a Canon...
Posted: Wed, 3rd Mar 2004, 1:46am

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Gibs

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After rewatching the high res version, it looked like there was some smoke in the scene or something that made it look purplish. When I originally wrote that, I had only watched the low res version, in which it didn't look as well. (No matter what, I'm sure it will look good in the end smile )
Posted: Wed, 9th Jun 2004, 7:57am

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Pending approval of FXHOME to have me back, I have resubmitted everything to be back online.