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Matrix Bullet Trail

Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 8:50pm

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robholtby

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SOMEONE SHOULD MAKE A MARTIX BULLET TRAIL EFFECT THAT LOOKS GOOD INSTEAD OF SMOKE AND WEIRD ROAD BACKGROUNDS confused
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Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 8:58pm

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Gibs

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The limitations of AlamDV make it impossible to create a bullet trail effect that actually affects your original footage. Sorry.
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 9:07pm

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no i agree it dosn't have to effect the backround but someone should make a desent bullet trail
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 10:24pm

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[quote="kungfukid"]no i agree it dosn't have to effect the backround but someone should make a desent bullet trail[/quote]

then it will look exactly like robholtby said - smoke and crap

a bullet trail will NOT look good unless it distorts the background - otherwise you are looking at smoke rings or a ring of something.

-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 26th Nov 2003, 10:57pm

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Little bit of advice - robholtby

We are a very helpful and friendly community, but you aren't going to get much respect or help if you act like you are now.
On 2 Posts, it's easy to 'turn over a new leaf' biggrin

What I'm saying is... how much better does this sound.

Hi everyone, I just bought AlamDV. It's a great programme however I can't seem to find any really good Bullet Trail plugins. Can someone point me in the right direction, or possibly make a new one.
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See what I mean?
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 2:23am

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Kyeju

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Here's an even better question for ya Robholtby. Why are you using a bullet trail effect in the first place? Why not do an original effect to make your scene and film unique?
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 5:11am

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my guess would be that he is putting out a fan film.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 5:28am

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Slick

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If you want good bullet trails try a 3d app or Adobe After Effects.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 6:03am

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HEY ROBHOLTBY, MY CAPS-LOCK IS BROKEN TOO! NEAT! unsure



Don't shout. We can hear.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 11:03am

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AndrewtheActorMan

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Haha.

I agree. No need to shout.
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 1:11pm

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chuter

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i think the bullet trail effects are quite decent, if not a bit pixelated. maybe i'm being stupid, but would there be any way of making a blur plug in, that blurs everything it is placed on? a bit like the masks. if some of the bullet trails were blurred, they would look fine. also, it would be good for motion blur ( if this is a ludicrous suggestion, then i'm a fool. i have no knowledge on plug ins or making them )
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 1:15pm

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4036Douglas

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i dont think you could make a blur plug in, but to blur an effect you want to render it on a solid color and set it to blur the whole thing. You can key out the solid color and put the blured keyed out clip into the video in another program. Maybe the keying program could be chromanator, and the program when you put it back in could be alamdv (making another plugin of the blurred version).
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 5:51pm

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If you get this right, it MAY look good.

Go into after effects,
load your desired clip twice.
Apply a shockwave or ripple effect to one of the clips,
position the markers to a bullet trailer, and animated them over time,
composite it onto the other clip.

There's a more detailed tutorial on someone's site...
I've spent 5 minutes trying to find it but I can't sad
Posted: Thu, 27th Nov 2003, 6:05pm

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TAP2

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found it

http://www.fallendj.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=45
Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2003, 7:40pm

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robholtby

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all you would have to do would be make like the background slightly watery in a long chain for example <((((((((( like a transparrent wavy sort of effect
Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2003, 8:06pm

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robholtby

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i would like to know if anyone could give me a guide to blue screening ive filmed on a blue screen but i dont know how to put the backgrounds in can anyone help me plz biggrin thanks
Posted: Fri, 28th Nov 2003, 9:05pm

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Pooky

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Well, you first need a program that can get rid of the bluescreen, like AE, premiere, or, the best one, Chromanator! If you don't have any, then just wait for chromanator to come out and buy that. It's supposed to be extremely easy to use and very effective.

Putting the backgrounds in... in AE and Premiere, you just put your background just below the clip that is bluescreened in the timeline.
Posted: Tue, 2nd Dec 2003, 2:48am

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http://fxhome.com/alamdv2/plugins/rawfiles/1125/normal

check this bullet trail.. Prob the best i've seen
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 4:05pm

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chuter

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that is the best one by far, but its really pixelated. i exported a clip using that with a blur setting as a test in alam sv and it looked really good, but there is no nlur effectsv only setting, only for lightswords. if there was a blur effecvts and not image setting it would be so useful. would that be possible?
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 9:16pm

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all you would have to do would be make like the background slightly watery in a long chain for example <((((((((( like a transparrent wavy sort of effect
One of the many things that is FAR more easily said than done.
Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2003, 3:09pm

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I managed to create an awesome bullet trail last night,

In Cinema4D, this is what I did...

Created an emmiter attached to the bullet,
Created some very transparent smoke, attached it to the emmiter.
Created some almost-flat rings, applied a texture with a high-refraction level to them. Applied 90% transparency.
Created more rings with 10% transparency and max refraction.
Changed the emmiter's particle count to a higher rate.
Clicked the render button,
Dropped my jaw in amazement.
Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2003, 3:27pm

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Pooky

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Can you post a example?
Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2003, 4:48pm

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TAP2

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Yep, but Cinema4D is doing a render at the moment so I'll do it when its finished.
Posted: Mon, 2nd Feb 2004, 4:30pm

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fertesz

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If anyone is interested, here is a bullet trail tutorial for Blender:
http://www.stormpages.com/madcow/Warp_tutorial/warp_tute1.html
I posted it on another topic, but I'm puting it here, just in case wink . Blender is freeware, so this can be very useful.