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Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 6:47pm

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Hi Everyone,

I have just recently got together a few friends and we are setting up our own special effects studio. We are planning to purchase AlamDV3 and theplugins for special effects.

What I want to know is if I want to animate a still picture what software do I need ? Is there any free software to download ? like freeware and shareware.

How long would it take to animate a walking dinosaur i see there is a plugin available but my friend says it looks poor. Also where can i download the trex to animate thanks
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 6:52pm

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you again...


alamdv cant do everything. As for the still moving....you could use alamdv, but have the picture of the plugin. And for animating a dinosaur............ooh gosh. depends if you wanna have a good one or a bad one.


i really dont care. Get a name at least.


unsure Andrew
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 6:57pm

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Whoa wait a second. Think of Plug-ins as pieces of paper. They are flat, 2D. So this means that the dinosaur plug-in might be animated or not. If it is, then all it can do is walk, and you only have one angle, unless it says it has more. If it is not animated, however, it is just a picture that you put on your footage. You can move it around, left, right, top, botom, etc. but you can't say, take a still of a Dinosaur and make it move. AlamDV isn't a 3D program. The computer doesn't know it is a dinosaur, all it sees is a bunch of dots (pixels). You can animate a Still, but it will look like you took a piece of paper with an arm on it, and one with a body on it and you are moving the top one. And if you are really thinking of starting a Special Effects Studio, you will need more than just AlamDV, you will need Premiere (or Final Cut Pro if you have a Mac), After Effects, Photoshop...
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:08pm

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Thanks for your advice

How do I make a walking dinosaur. My friend has adobe premier and photoshop what software do i need to make a walking dinosaur and where can i find the models too do it.

sorry to ask so many questions but i am getting frustrated because i promised to create a walking dinosaur that is 3 d and am not sure how to go about it please please help me.

pooky wrote:

Whoa wait a second. Think of Plug-ins as pieces of paper. They are flat, 2D. So this means that the dinosaur plug-in might be animated or not. If it is, then all it can do is walk, and you only have one angle, unless it says it has more. If it is not animated, however, it is just a picture that you put on your footage. You can move it around, left, right, top, botom, etc. but you can't say, take a still of a Dinosaur and make it move. AlamDV isn't a 3D program. The computer doesn't know it is a dinosaur, all it sees is a bunch of dots (pixels). You can animate a Still, but it will look like you took a piece of paper with an arm on it, and one with a body on it and you are moving the top one. And if you are really thinking of starting a Special Effects Studio, you will need more than just AlamDV, you will need Premiere (or Final Cut Pro if you have a Mac), After Effects, Photoshop...
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:10pm

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http://www.cs.ust.hk/~cpegnel/glTIP/

This animates pictures - it is really really good, you will be blown away by the preview videos on the site. And it's free.

For T Rex models, there are plenty of sites listed in The Ultimate FAQ post in the Filmmaker's Forum.
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:20pm

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Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for your advice

How do I make a walking dinosaur. My friend has adobe premier and photoshop what software do i need to make a walking dinosaur
You can't really expect to be able to do a walking dinosaur just like that, without any knowledge of software or techniques. Pop down to you local library or bookshop and buy some books on special effects, or search the internet for tutorials.

If you're looking to create Jurassic Park-quality effects, you have a very long, hard road ahead of you. Bear in mind it took the top special effects artists in the world years to get to the level of the first Jurassic Park film, and they had years of experience and a huge team (not to mention a fair bit of cash).

By all means go for it, but don't expect to be able to get decent results immediately. Special effects is a highly complex mix of art and craft, and much practice and training is required.

Good luck with it all!
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:23pm

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you need a 3d program - but are you really going to spend ALOT of money on it just for a dinosaur? And they take a long time to be able to use effectively, its not a program you can learn easily.

3ds max of cinema 4d are good starts

blender is free - but a pain to use i hear.

and for a 3d model of a dinosaur, well lets see...a dinosaur...WHAT KIND?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?! BIG ONE SMALL ONE TREX? BRACHIOSARUS STEGOSAURUS?!!?!?!?!?!??? WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO JUST SAY DINOSAURA?!?!?!

and dont be lazy! use google or yahoo and search for them. you just type in google what your looking for and it will link you to somehting, oh kind of what your trying to do here, but then peop[le have to do the work for you and not a search engine- hence use a search engine!

andyway

have fun trying to get a dinosaur

-MAGIC
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:25pm

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the topic really does sum you up! razz

sorry to ask so many questions but i am getting frustrated because i promised to create a walking dinosaur that is 3 d and am not sure how to go about it please please help me
That was a bit of a stupid promise really wasn't it? razz

All i can say is your gonna need to hire ILM or summit to help ya out - altho, it depends on the realism you are looking for - if it is just for some mate, and u need some amateur dinosaur to show his grandparents, you could make do with the ones in the plugin section, but, as tarn said, if ur looking for jurrasic park or beyond, it's gonna take ya a good few years, or even decades, to master the software...

TMM twisted

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Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 7:30pm

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http://www.cs.ust.hk/~cpegnel/glTIP/files/small_movies/Surreal_mp4_lo.avi

This is frigging amazing! New addition to the gltip library of films that I hadn't seen before...
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 8:13pm

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Anonymous wrote:


sorry to ask so many questions but i am getting frustrated because i promised to create a walking dinosaur that is 3 d and am not sure how to go about it please please help me.
Why did you promise such a thing in the first place if you had no idea how to go about it? Sounds utterly ridiculous to me! Sorry, but you seem to be the artisan of your own woes! Start by not promising things you can't deliver... And do some research in order to acquire the knowledge you need. Otherwise, you are wasting everybody's time including your own - time you could spent researching what you need to know - which from your post you are far from... And a good idea would be to tell the person to whom you promised this that he/she won't have it soon... Honesty is best policy.
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 8:53pm

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Obviously a 10 year old trying to sound big...

Anyone with some common sense would realise that It takes years and years of experience and money to acheive effects anything like that.
Posted: Sun, 7th Dec 2003, 9:31pm

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He's asked for dinosaur plugins in three different posts now. One time it was for his "Jurassic Park Fanfilm" then it was for his "Special FX Company" which apparently is being paid by some company to make an advert for them...What's going to be next?

Rawree:Maybe you should look into using a 3D app.
rmw:I suggest you learn a 3d program,actually thats the only way

Rawree
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 12:15am

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Anonymous wrote:

i am getting frustrated because i promised to create a walking dinosaur that is 3 d and am not sure how to go about it please please help me.

So, why did you promise something you cant do?
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:34am

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Well this guy dosent have any 3D knowledge at all so i can say one thing: Minature!

Get some Dinosour toy that is walking or doing what ever, my little brother have one and it looks great, Get a piece of blue paper or cardbord and shoot your dinaour infront of it, then take it in to After Effects or whatever, do your shodows etc.
then key it out
that my advice to you !

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Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:52am

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Okay, I think that the only productive posts to help this poor kid out was from:

Andreas
pooky
Mellifluous

The rest are just bashing the guy. Why? Who cares if he makes promises, hes asking for help, not lectures. If you can't post anything to help the kid out, just say "sorry but cant help ya out" instead of "oh jeeze another kid trying to make it big"....let me know if im wrong, but EVERYBODY here are normal joes trying to make it big (or TRYING to make themselves look big).
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:53am

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Hulk Smash Monster wrote:

Hi Everyone,

I have just recently got together a few friends and we are setting up our own special effects studio.
I wish it was that easy....sorry kido but it's not that easy. Good things take time.

Any way, Andreas has made a good point you should do a miniature!!!
Not only COULD a miniature yield ok-ish results it wold be more fun and a good way to get into the world of film.

Plus if you do it stop-motion style then you might learn some patience and the real definition of frustration!!! wink
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:04am

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lol i did something like that once it worked much better then i plained biggrin
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 10:08am

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Stop-motion is great fun, if you have the patience. There are few things as satisfying as finishing the shot, playing it back and watching it all come to life. smile
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 1:42pm

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IuseAlamDVbutIthinkImaPro wrote:


...HEY GUYS! LOOK AT THIS TOOL!



Hey look, another 10 year old trying to make it big.
Ahahaha!! That's awesome, I'd probably give you all of my force points if you were registered. I'd give that post a +1, but since you're a guest, it wouldn't really matter anyway. Oh well, you can have a high five.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 1:57pm

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Why? Who cares if he makes promises
We do. And why? - because we're all meddling busy-bodies and we feel its our public duty to prevent people wasting their lives and spending unnecessary time and effort trying to do things which are simply not within their abilities or station razz

thats why!

Theres a point where a kid's dreams become so preposterous that they run the very real risk of failing so bad that they never try anything again. If the parents won't step in to prevent that, then us interfering morons sure as heck will biggrin
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 2:23pm

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*me reads thread, sighs and walks away*
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:44pm

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The reason why I promised is because I thought it would be easy just to use plugins from alamdv but there isnt a good one of a walking dinasaur a friend of mine made a short video clip of a running trex using the plugins here and when we sent it out to promote ourselves everyone was really impressed

now they want dinosaur walking sideways that looks good but we cant find a plugin for it..

I thought that plugins would make life a whole alot easier but it looks like its not that easy





AndrewtheActorMan wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

i am getting frustrated because i promised to create a walking dinosaur that is 3 d and am not sure how to go about it please please help me.

So, why did you promise something you cant do?
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:49pm

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Just because you can put a prerendered plugin in front of a picture doesn't mean you understand something about special effects. Quite obviously, you don't... not a bit...


You claiming you're a sfx studio and make people pay money for your lack of knowledge and abilities is the most impertinent thing I heard this month.




I'll stop now, cause that is actually not even funny anymore...
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 7:52pm

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I don't mean to sound condescending, but are you sure your client wasn't impressed simply because you're 10, or something?

Theres a difference between being impressed because what you've made was mind-blowing, and being impressed because it was good *for someone of your age*

Anyhoo...the 3d plugins in alamdv can only be placed onto footage in a 2d way (which unfortunately makes almost every single non-2d plugin utterly ludicrous unless you film specifically with a plugin in mind), as many people have already said.

Your only solution with AlamDV, would be to make your own plugin with footage taken from a 3d mesh pre-rendered animation on a matte (to be found on a variety of sites that i can't be arsed to remember the URLs of), then film your movie specifically with the exact same angles in mind, then place on the effect you created.

Plugins have only got a finite number of uses when the source frames of each plugin aren't dynamic.

I think you've pretty much exhausted what you can do without doing some plugins yourself.

If any of the words i've used need explaining, you're in the wrong business.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:36pm

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stop trying to make me look stupid ok. I dont have enough money to buy all that 3d stuff like maya 3d max when i leave school and get a job maybe then so dont keep making fun and saying stupid things.

everyone at school was impressed by our short movie you just think u know everything if u know so much how come you dont make big movies like spielberg and cameroon.








Sollthar wrote:

Just because you can put a prerendered plugin in front of a picture doesn't mean you understand something about special effects. Quite obviously, you don't... not a bit...


You claiming you're a sfx studio and make people pay money for your lack of knowledge and abilities is the most impertinent thing I heard this month.




I'll stop now, cause that is actually not even funny anymore...
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:41pm

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Hulk Monster wrote:

stop trying to make me look stupid ok.....

you just think u know everything if u know so much how come you dont make big movies like spielberg and cameroon.
Point taken.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:44pm

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I don't need to make you look stupid. You manage to do that pretty impressively without my help really..
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:46pm

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Well to be blunt, if you don't have that kinda money, but want to be professional; you're boned.

Only a spectactular use of alamdv's 2d effects could get you any/serious clients. The 3d effects are all just amusingly poor.

AlamDV can do some totally leet things, but for the kind of market you're aiming at, being only able to do a limited amount of 2d stuff gives you about a snowball's chance in hell.

Its not a coincidence that professional fx studios charge hundreds, if not thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of pounds for stuff they do for clients. The reason is that the software, hardware, training, and manpower necessary to do it also costs hundreds of thousands of pounds too!

I think the reason people are getting irate, is simply because you're involuntarily belittling all their hard work by claiming to be some kind of fx studio master, when in fact you are the dictionary def'n of "novice". Its insulting - to them - to think that a child with utterly no grasp of the necessary requirements, has any kind of shot at getting professional movies aired or getting 'clients'.

Personally i don't give a monkeys, in fact it amuses me. But as a friendly suggestion: can i advise you to go read up on 3d software, and methods, and general film stuff? It would probably help your case a little if you were to show some semblance of understanding for even the most basic parts of the culture you're pretending to have a clue about.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:49pm

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shutup u stupid or I am going smash your head with a baseball bat and jump on your head i am tired of u making fun and making me like i am an idiot.

Maybe your jealous when people have ambitions

I bet your just some stinking rich kid who gets everything from your mum and dad.

Sollthar wrote:

I don't need to make you look stupid. You manage to do that pretty impressively without my help really..
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Don't cry... I didn't mean it...

*hands the little hulk monster a handkerchief*
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OK, OK guys. Cool it down a bit. I'm sure Hulk Monster gets your point now.

Hulk Monster - I'm sure people would be more than happy to help you out with questions you have as you investigate and learn the art and craft of special effects. Everyone starts somewhere, and I applaud your ambition and drive: channel it in the right directions and you'll have the potential to go far.

So, go read some books, save up some money, and show these guys what can be done!
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woah, woah kid! i'm trying to be constructive here.

Look at things realistically for a second -

You're what?...

*xcession guesses*

...about 13, maximum? (judging by your use of the language).

Even if you were to aim at the local businesses, not even the people who really care; you'd have to exhibit some kind of incredibly skill to actually have anything you do for clients bought.

Furthermore you're 13...you have about as much business acumen as a sausage. You'll be bought, and shafted (in no particular order) before you can say "noob".

People are jealous, you're right! - jealous but also irritated that you can claim to have a clue, when its quite obvious you don't. Sorry dude, but i can't be much fairer than that. I have nothing against you, not being a filmaker myself, so i'm just saying it how i see it.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:56pm

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Is this an FX thread? or did I sign into 'The Jerry Springer Forum'? confused
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 8:57pm

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i can't blame you for mistaking the two razz
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 9:01pm

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Thanks Tarn, you understand what I am saying but solhar picks on me and likes to make me look stupid in front of everyone. I dont know why he does this. Maybe he is gay or somthing.

I shall get some books from the library and spend some more time learnng about special effects.

Tarn wrote:

OK, OK guys. Cool it down a bit. I'm sure Hulk Monster gets your point now.

Hulk Monster - I'm sure people would be more than happy to help you out with questions you have as you investigate and learn the art and craft of special effects. Everyone starts somewhere, and I applaud your ambition and drive: channel it in the right directions and you'll have the potential to go far.

So, go read some books, save up some money, and show these guys what can be done!
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Heh, theres nothing wrong with being gay. Your amusing use of this as an insult pretty much cements your age as being between 10 and 13. In about 5 to 10 years, you'll understand this.

Word of the wise: you're not making any friends by insulting people by calling them gay. even if sollthar IS being unreasonable, many people who read this post may be gay and may have nothing against you.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 9:08pm

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Sorry maybe he is not gay but he just makes me stupid and I know someone who is gay he acts really stupid thats why I thought maybe solhar is gay.

Xcession wrote:

Heh, theres nothing wrong with being gay. Your amusing use of this as an insult pretty much cements your age as being between 10 and 13. In about 5 to 10 years, you'll understand this.

Word of the wise: you're not making any friends by insulting people by calling them gay. even if sollthar IS being unreasonable, many people who read this post may be gay and may have nothing against you.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 9:11pm

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Maybe he's acting stupid to try and impress you... I bet you never thought of that. You'll look at him differently from now on. Very much so...
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 9:12pm

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WHAT! Thats not a clever statement in itself Hulk Monster.

Sollthar is a respected member of this community (probably the most respected) so having a go at him is hardly a good idea for a new member.

What you did in sending out your dino movie was very short sighted and you can't expect random people you don't know to spend days making plugins for you to make money and gain more jobs. Why don't you offer anyone who makes you this plugin 75% of the money you are getting or something similar.
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Heh, this is great. It must be my pink underwear I'm wearing today that makes appear gay... usually I wear the flower ones. smile


Alright, I'll explain you my reaction and I apologize.


What you do is not fair. You claim to be an sfx company, yet you obviously don't even know the basics of FX work. You request money for something you're not by far able to do as it seems. And now you come here and request again. Basically you're asking someone to do the work YOU promised to do and YOU get the money for it.


This is insulting. It may be that I'm wrong here, but I personally feel this is insulting and way unfair. This is why I reacted like that.



On a more helpful note:

When you want to do a dinosaur, you can either go to a shop and buy a toy dino, film in in front of a greenscreen or bluescreen and animate him with stop and go (wich is a good and cheap solution if it's done nicely, but will require WORK from you) or you start learning a 3D application.

You said you had no money, alright. Try "Blender", wich is completely free. But be warned, learning 3D will take you weeks and months and will also require a lot of WORK from you.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 9:58pm

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Alright, here's a little help if you want to go for the Stop Motion approach. I suppose you don't know what stop motion is...

Stop Motion is the same tecnique used in Wallace and Grommit, The Chicken Run, and old movies like Jason and the Argonauts (sorry for my spelling smile ) wich animated Skeletons, and old movies with DINOSAURS! Stop motion consists of having a model, usually clay, and taking a picture of it, then you move it a tiny bit, depending on the speed you want it to move, and take another picture. You keep doing this, and in the end, put all of the pictures toghether and make them go really fast. This will result in the illusion that the object is moving.

Now, you could go out and buy, say, a Jurrasic Park figurine or something and use stop motion on it. However, you have to film it on a Green or Blue Background! And it has to be well lighted so there are the least shadows possible. Then, in a program like After Effects or Premiere (you probably don't have these as they are really expensive, so I would suggest you waited for Chromanator to come out. It's a new Program by CSB-Digital that is supposed to be REALLY good, easy, and cheap!) and then you remove the Blue or Green background. You put the clip you want the Dino to be in and Tada!

Now for actually doing the Stop Motion capture of the Dinosaur, I would use Anasazi Stop Motion Animator: http://www.animateclay.com/download.htm . You need to have your camera connected to your computer to use it, but I find it works great and it's very easy. It puts the pictures taken toghether for you and you can check what you've done so far by pressing 'play'.

Good luck!
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 10:12pm

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Yeah lets set something straight....were all pretty nice guys here on FX-home and all where trying to do is set you on the right track.

The right track is NOT it come crying to us claiming that your "effects company" is going under because nothing is going to plan.

The right track is to start at the bottom.
Sorry but thats the only way. Lets take Sollthar for example, go take a look at his website. Note how over time his movies got better, for each movie he took the knowledge from the last and built on it.

Now you can't start building out of thin air, you need something to build on. Like wise you can't start a company unless you have prior knowledge of what your doing.

Computers can be deceiving as they are a powerful tool and can produce amazing results with relative ease. But like a tool you need to know how to use it and using some one else's walking dinosaur is not knowing how to use it. You need to do it for your self.

So my advice is.....
Go out and make a movie with some friends (do some simple muzzle flashes or something) then look hard at that movie and analyze it.
Then go out and do a second movie then a third. After the third look at the first.....i think you will be quite surprised.

smile
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Or... Since it appears that you're wanting to at least have something to do with special effects, read some books or tutorials, get some demos for programs and try them out and such. It's a learning process. When I first sat down with After Effects, I didn't think I'd ever be able to learn it, but now, less than a year later, I'm practically an expert. Just takes time. And patience. And money. Lots of money.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 10:17pm

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And intelligence.

dullards need not apply.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 10:23pm

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if you think sollthar is gay or stupid, you go watch turicon. then come back here and tell us he's stupid or gay.
Posted: Mon, 8th Dec 2003, 10:27pm

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Heh, that was uncalled for Doug! wink


Alright... I HAVE WORN PINK UNDERWEAR!!! HATE ME!!! crazy cry
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 12:07am

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4036Douglas wrote:

if you think sollthar is gay or stupid, you go watch turicon. then come back here and tell us he's stupid or gay.
What does being gay has to do with anything? Pink underwear or not...

This is probably the lamest insult in the book... It means nothing. Either a person is happy or likes people of their own sex. Big whoopie!

Now lying to a potential client (or whoever) about your "supposed" capacities is a much more serious offence... Good for you to still be a kid because if you were an adult the consequences could be extremely costly... Much more than it would cost you to get Maya or 3DStudioMax, which is what you need, along with a modicum of knowledge, to pull this off... Paid or not... And gay or not...
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 12:54am

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Yeah, I can vouch for Sollthar not being gay. Despite his pink underwear and those skirts that he insisted on wearing when we made the CSB promotional video (any shot that was waist-height or above, he insisted on wearing a skirt, just out of shot...).

Anyway, as others have said, 'gay' as an insult just makes no sense.
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 11:49am

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Go Jerry, go Jerry, go go go!

Pretty much everything has been said. You're being immature about this, & I'm not picking on you. Especially by basically saying all gay people are stupid. Are you sure your friend is gay? Or is that just to "insult" him? If all gay people are stupid, then does that mean all stupid people are gay? Does that mean you're gay?

You've dug yourself into a hole by pretending to people that you're an expert in SFX. You probably showed them the footage & said, "oh, it's really easy," just because you know how to download a plugin & paste it onto your video footage.

Just tell them it isn't so easy, you didn't make the effect, & accept what people say. You may lose face in front of friends but that's going to happen sooner or later, right?

Getting pissed off with people & using what are in your mind insults against them isn't going to help, OK?

What Sollthar says is perfectly right. I am sure he would be happy if his or any other fx were used professionally, in a professional film etc., but ultimately all AlamDV is about is allowing amateur filmmakers to put fx in their films in an easy way. It is the films that are important, not the fx. You're trying to profit directly from the actual plugins, by requesting them for other people, whereas if people like your film & it's better because of the plugins you've used, you're profiting indirectly from them.

People are actually trying to help you. Look, they're saying learn a 3d program. By saying it's going to take a long time to learn isn't putting you down, they're stating the truth. The same with After Effects, although that's a bit easier than 3d progs. They're telling you free 3d programs, too. People round here do want to help, do want to make plugins, but for your films...

On a positive note, good for you if you're going to look into 3d progs & borrow books etc smile

But I think you should apologise for your behaviour to everyone. And then we'll forget all about it.
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Hi Hulk Monster
I'm the guy that made the dino plugins on here and would like to give you some very helpful advice on your dinosaur project.

I have about 1 person every two weeks contact me and ask me to make a dino plugin doing things that they want, this is too hard to do as I don't know what camera angle or lighting is used, but what i suggest to them is.

Search then net for poser 3, it was given away on a magazine 2 years ago ( if you can't find it let me know i'll send you my cover disc with it on ) then search on www.renderosity.com and other sites for dinosaurs ( I brought one of the dinosaurs from www.daz3d.com ) but you can find free ones around.
Once you have poser 3 and the dino play around with it, you can import your footage into poser and place the dino just where you want him.
you'll find poser easy to use and from there if you want to learn the modeling side you can download demo's of 3d-max and maya i think.

I long for a home made film with dinosaurs in, my own attempt a few years back only had puppets, so i look forward to seeing what you can do, good luck and shout if you need help.
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 6:45pm

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anonymous

Thanks for the information for creating dinosaurs

I am sorry I called Solhar gay, I dont think he is gay I just got alittle angry when he made fun of me

b4uask30male wrote:

Hi Hulk Monster
I'm the guy that made the dino plugins on here and would like to give you some very helpful advice on your dinosaur project.

I have about 1 person every two weeks contact me and ask me to make a dino plugin doing things that they want, this is too hard to do as I don't know what camera angle or lighting is used, but what i suggest to them is.

Search then net for poser 3, it was given away on a magazine 2 years ago ( if you can't find it let me know i'll send you my cover disc with it on ) then search on www.renderosity.com and other sites for dinosaurs ( I brought one of the dinosaurs from www.daz3d.com ) but you can find free ones around.
Once you have poser 3 and the dino play around with it, you can import your footage into poser and place the dino just where you want him.
you'll find poser easy to use and from there if you want to learn the modeling side you can download demo's of 3d-max and maya i think.

I long for a home made film with dinosaurs in, my own attempt a few years back only had puppets, so i look forward to seeing what you can do, good luck and shout if you need help.
Posted: Tue, 9th Dec 2003, 6:58pm

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hulk monster, not to be rude at all, but how old are you?
Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2003, 11:20am

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Just so you know, i am 14
Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2003, 11:43am

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So why were you so confused andrew when I said in the other post, have you broken up yet? biggrin
Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2003, 11:53am

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wasnt thinking
Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2003, 12:00pm

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lol, just thought how random it must have sound if you weren't thinking.
Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2003, 9:25pm

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yeah.. maybe if you had said "gotten out" it would have been a bit clearer
Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2003, 4:30pm

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this thread is absolutely hilarious!!! Hulk monster, you crack me up!! you're a funny kid! i love the fact that you've filmed your garden and dropped b4uask's effect on it, exported it, and tried to sell it as your effects company's doings. you deserve kudos for the sheer cheek and stupidity!! how dumb must your clients be? i cant imagine "clients" investing money in a 10 year olds fx company, unless these "clients" are your classmates. just a thought.
Posted: Sun, 14th Dec 2003, 12:35pm

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AndrewtheActorMan

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its a bit disturbing if you ask me...STEALING ALL OF THE HARD WORKING ALAMDV USERS' PLUGINS AND SAYING THERE YOURS!