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foppaf stop trying to get people to send you plugins

is foppaf a tool?

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Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 4:32pm

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Xcession

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Buy the program.

Buy it! Buy it! Buy it!

Then you can have all the plugins you want, tool.

Just to make it painfully obvious for those who are intelectually challenged, or just plain nooby; access to plugins is given upon purchase of the program. Persons found giving their plugins to non-payed-up people, will probably have their own fxhome accounts revoked too, and future copies of alamdv invalidated - it won't just be the asking person who is penalised.

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Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 4:34pm

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ooo, that's a tricky vote!

Can i phone a friend? razz

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Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 4:35pm

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why dont we try to see how many people he's contacted. me-1 bowie-2, anyone else?
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 4:38pm

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Prob everyone who's made a plug-in.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:06pm

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Really funny.. i asked them no one more. that's true.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:09pm

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Well, i got it from him. Tool's email = foppaf@hotbrev.com

Shall we send him some gifts????
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:12pm

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Fuck! you dudes making me sad sad i'll quit. BYE
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:13pm

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4036Douglas

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you see, illegal things kind of make us mad...
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:17pm

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Its a good think you didnt send me a message...

twisted

If i were the CSB team, i would immediatly ban them from the site...there IP and such...but then, they would come back w/ another one.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 5:33pm

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tick CSB products are one of the cheapest and most powerful products on the market.
tick $85 is a very small price to pay for such packages, they could charge much more and still make money.
tick I think (not sure though) that you cant install plugins in the demo version, which implies that you have a crack.... in case you didnt know, thats bad.
And finally,
mad: dont steal programs that people spent time and money to make. If you're gonna steal something, go 'steal' some freeware and tell all your friends if thats what your into. otherwise, stop it.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 7:17pm

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Well, CSB doesn't really own the plug-ins that users make. The users themselves do. The users themselves get to choose what they will and won't do with thier own plug-ins. If someone asked me for one of the plug-ins I have made then I don't see anything wrong with me giving something I made.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 7:25pm

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ah, but this guy was specifically requesting ones - i believe he ask doug for one of the grenade ones - even tho he made this, the guy might have been asking other users for the same plugin, or other plugins that they didn't necassarily make...

Plus u have used csb software to make them - ie the plugger, so nur! razz

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Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 7:28pm

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Yeah the point isn't that people shouldn't be able to give out their own plugins but that this guy hasn't bought the program and is trying to get hold of them to use in AE or a Warez copy of Alam.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 7:31pm

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yeah, giving people your plugins when they've bought the program is fine.

but facilitating the piracy of AlamDV by giving them plugins that they shouldn't have access to...is a big no-no.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 7:54pm

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You guys are the "Anti-Piracy Posse", kicking the ass of the digital bandits! Yeeah!!! (ok, who's gonna turn that into a film wink )

Seriously, nicely put guys, Fx'ers in, fraudsters out!
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:02pm

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How can someone not respect all the hard work and dedication CSB put into their products. You can shove those plugins up your ass twisted

CSB And Piracy DON'T COMBINE.

I haven't even bought the programme yet, but I and 99.9% of fellow fxhomers will allways be on the lookout for cracks, serials on the net and will help keep CSB's products pirate free.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:04pm

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i've decided... im going to buy the program =) when, i dunno.. but i will! (when i have the money!)
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:06pm

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foppaf wrote:

i've decided... im going to buy the program =) when, i dunno.. but i will! (when i have the money!)
You've made a very wise decision. Look forward to seeing your contributions in the forum and the cinema. smile
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:31pm

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I just wanna comment regarding the Plugin rights thing.

I know you aren't meant to send the plugins, as you use the plugger, but are you not allowed to send them the images if you made them?
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:36pm

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read our posts again exclamation. i think its clear. sending anything to alamdv-owner: good. sending stuff to a non-alamdv-owner: bad.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 8:37pm

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Well technically no you don't have any right to the image because you agree to hand over the rights to CSB. Whether its in a plugin or not makes no difference for copyright.

However we're all friendly here. I'm sure CSB would only stop you doing what you want with your own image for a very good reason.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 9:22pm

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Yeah, when you upload the plugin I'm pretty sure it says that it becomes property of CSB...
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 9:36pm

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This is very debatable because a lot of plugins are already made with copyrighted materials (all those Star Wars ships, Daredevil weapons, Hulk animations, not to mention all the Art Beats footage, etc...)

All that stuff is already copyrighted before it even became a plugin...

It is definitely a grey area.
Posted: Sun, 21st Dec 2003, 9:46pm

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If I draw an original picture of Daredevil or make a 3D model of an X-Wing it is copyright to me and not Marvel or Lucasarts. Trademarks are a different matter entirely and don't really apply here.

The only problem is when someone has used a stock explosion or something like that which have been weeded out where CSB knows about it.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 12:14am

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LETS PUT AN END TO PIRACY ON CSB-DIGITALS PRODUCTS

The Criminal Code

Piracy

Piracy by law of nations
74. (1) Every one commits piracy who does any act that, by the law of nations, is piracy.

Punishment
(2) Every one who commits piracy while in or out of Canada is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life.

foppaf smartin up!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 5:19am

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Kid wrote:

If I draw an original picture of Daredevil or make a 3D model of an X-Wing it is copyright to me and not Marvel or Lucasarts. Trademarks are a different matter entirely and don't really apply here.
That's true but if you make it public for a fee, as in plugins that you need to buy the software for to get them, then it's a infringement on the rights of the owners of the trademark and they are entitled to sue your pants off to protect said rights... It is somewhat tolerated to an extent. And there's quite a few Artbeat stock footage in the plugin section because I own some of the footage and I recognized it... Just changing the color of a flame for example, doesn't negate the footage origin...

But in the end I think it's fairly harmless but if one is following the law by the letter, the whole concept is dodgy to a certain extent.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 12:13pm

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errr..why is he in this forum asking for them????


Did you know i saw plugs on a p2p program in oct. not gonna say which wink

But i did send a message to the people sharing...Not a nice one,but it was a message..saying if they did buy the program..there risking losing the rights to it..and i'm sure some where on this site..theres legal action they can take.but not sure..So stop sharing plugs in P2P!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 12:15pm

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Sorry forgot to login on that post above..lol
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 12:43pm

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I'm not trying to sound BIG or anything, but If I find anyone sharing AlamDV or AlamDV related material on a P2P application I'll get their IP address and do some nasty things biggrin
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 1:32pm

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So.... I take it you guys looking for ALAMDV Plugins in whatever filesharing system you use are also doing the same for Adobe, or AVID, or Trapcode or EMI Records etc....

Yes, I am in complete agreement, piracy is wrong.. the guys at CSB are doing a great job, and at the cost of the product.. hell, buying it is cheaper than the cost to leave my phone dialled up to try and "steal it" (Well, almost smile )

But to come in and say that you are policing one companys products, while downloading (probably) some other stuff.. come on guys, thats just hypocritical...

Merry Christmas..

P.S.. I voted yes, foppaf is a tool in this instance, just dont be one as well.

<Dons flameproof pants and a cheesy grin>
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 1:43pm

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TAP2 wrote:

I'll get their IP address and do some nasty things biggrin
I'll be with you on that. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 1:44pm

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Yes, but CSB deserve it.
Companies like Adobe, they do loose millions of dollars a year to piracy... but there are pleanty of people (including pros) prepared to pay the big bucks to get them.

I'm sure all of you would be extremely annoyed if you saw that some dipshit was handing out illegal copies of a cracked alamdv2 for free.

£50 is absolutely nothing, compared to £1xxx or £10xxx biggrin
That's why we should all be dedicated into protecting alamdv from the pirates biggrin
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 3:44pm

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TAP2 wrote:

I'm not trying to sound BIG or anything, but If I find anyone sharing AlamDV or AlamDV related material on a P2P application I'll get their IP address and do some nasty things biggrin
But, you don't even own a CSB program. Maybe you should buy one. wink
Posted: Mon, 22nd Dec 2003, 3:59pm

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I was waiting for some clever person to find the flaw in my argument biggrin

As I've said before several times, I will see how I am for cash after Christmas. You see I'm a very generous person and I think I've bought people presents that were too expensive this year smile

Infact, I've had Chromanator and AlamDV in my basket for days now. Whenever I come to the forums the "2 items in basket, click here to purchase" seems to scream at me...

Redhawksrymmer, welcome to the club biggrin
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2004, 4:43pm

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Pirates should stay in the sea, not here.
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2004, 10:56pm

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I dont know why someone would resort to asking members for plugins if the program is really cheap. I got a pm requesting my magic code and I would never give it away I mean why should you pay for the program and then let someone have it for free tard . Just buy the program! If you dont have the money or are allitle kid wash some cars mow a couple lawns it will be worth it if your really dedicated to filmmaking.
Posted: Mon, 5th Jan 2004, 11:12pm

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If you dont have the money or are allitle kid wash some cars mow a couple lawns it will be worth it if your really dedicated to filmmaking.
It's not that simple, it must be hard for kiddies to persuade their daddies to buy AlamDV for them biggrin
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2004, 12:58am

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This fourms has the most anti-warez people I've seen in a long time.

Some funny shit, keep up the posts!
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2004, 2:08am

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TAP2 wrote:

If you dont have the money or are allitle kid wash some cars mow a couple lawns it will be worth it if your really dedicated to filmmaking.
It's not that simple, it must be hard for kiddies to persuade their daddies to buy AlamDV for them biggrin
Well if these little kiddies have access to a computer and DV camera then I doubt it will be too hard to get alam as well seeing as it costs pennies in comparison.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2004, 9:16pm

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Kid wrote:

TAP2 wrote:

If you dont have the money or are allitle kid wash some cars mow a couple lawns it will be worth it if your really dedicated to filmmaking.
It's not that simple, it must be hard for kiddies to persuade their daddies to buy AlamDV for them biggrin
Well if these little kiddies have access to a computer and DV camera then I doubt it will be too hard to get alam as well seeing as it costs pennies in comparison.
What if it's their parent's computer and their parent's camera? smile
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2004, 9:20pm

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They should get their parents AlamDV too then. smile
Posted: Tue, 6th Jan 2004, 9:58pm

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Thanks, Guest, I try! biggrin