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Holed Up

Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 11:23am

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stqagehanduk

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Holed Up is a short film that was made for submission to a film competition that, for tecnical reasons too boring to go into, never made the deadline. So ... here it is. Its got some good bits and the lesson for all to learn is - light your bluescreens properly.

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Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 2:08pm

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Looks cool, but I can't watch it. I don't have Dvix.
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 2:12pm

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Try www.divx.com.
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 3:08pm

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There is a crying shame here sad
You have, actors, costumes, sets scripts and some very good cgi work but............

It feels like an amatuer film and it shouldn't.
Here are some things I think would help it get past the amatuer look.

The sound is horrid ( sorry sad it sounds like your in a bathroom, i've had problems with sound before and had the same comments, if you haven't already got an external mic, you should, also the scenes where your bluescreening and the actor is in a room that echo's you should ( i know it adds more time ) but dubb over ( i've asked my actors to say their lines again sitting in a car somewhere quite.

Too many camera shots looking up at the actor, makes me thing the cameraman is on 4ft.

You need to add more music, this would also help with the voices as it would detract from the echo a little.

I hope this don't sound too harsh, i really thought it was good, kinda reminded me of Turrican ( a film on here )
I think with those things above done you really could be tops.
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 8:21pm

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Sound is always a nightmare and it didn't help that I was up against a deadline (which I subsequently missed). If I'd had time I'd have looped it. After I've filtered the hum out (I use Cooledit Pro), I generally end up with slightly tinny audio that no amount of processing seems to fill out. I don't think squashing it to 22khz Mono helps ...
Posted: Thu, 15th Jan 2004, 9:02pm

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sorry didn't know that,
I really did like it, i gave a vote of 5 just a shame about the sound, i'm sure as you knew the problem your future films we rock.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 2:34am

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stqagehanduk

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I went and had a look at the Torrican movie ... it was very, very dull, I'm afraid, and I gave up after twenty odd minutes.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 9:24am

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Heh... I'll be more then happy to look into your films and learn how to do it right, as soon as you repair the link. wink
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 1:51pm

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stqagehanduk

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It should work. The site's hosted by a friend and it isn't always rock solid.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 3:43pm

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stqagehanduk

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The site's back up agaiun now - sorry about the interruption.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 4:50pm

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Ah, superb! Links is back online working and I could have a look at it. smile


First I must say I on my part liked the audiodesign quite a lot. Gave it a special feeling with the slightly odd sounding quality, but also the soundeffects used were nicely chosen and implemented into the film. Felt like there was a good amount of thought and work been put into this.

The effects we're pretty cool in parts too, some nice composit shots and good and solid 3D work. Allthough many of the bluescreen/greenscreen shots had lots of artefacts, wich was a shame (I guess you used premiere to key? Looks very much like one of the bad premiere keys. I recommend you have a loook at Chromanator!) wink

What I though was by far the weakest part of the production was the acting. It was all very cheesy and overdone. Especially the "find me someone to interogate" guy - his hand movement there was hilarious; but somehow I felt like it wasn't ment to be funny, wich it was, unfortunately. Same goes for the other actors really. I recommend doing more exercises of the scenes with the actors, especially if they aren't professional.

The editing was mostly good, kept the film going and the visuals interesting. Good variations in shots, allthough sometimes a bit confusing when you don't go by the 180 degree rule AND switch from closeup to total in a static dialogue scene.


overall I'd say a rounded 4.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 8:54pm

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No, we weren't playing it seriously at all (I mean, how could we?), and I am that bald guy. I cut an eight page script to five pages and lost my personal favourite line in the process - "I'll ... I'll ... Find me someone to kill!". I thought it was tongue in cheek enough to lose the more obvious gags.

I find that premiere pretty good for bluescreening just so long as you have a nicely lit screen. Which we didn't. And that was no-one's fault but my own ...

I'm not conscious of having crossed the line, actually. Thereare a couple of bits where the positioning is a bit more complex, but I can't think of anywhere I've broken 180 degrees. And sometimes your choice of shots is dictated by your coverage - this was shot guerilla over a couple of days.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 9:00pm

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Yeah, the 180 degree rule is tricky anyways. I break it all the time unfortunately and don't even realise it until someone points me to it and makes me go D'ough. smile
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 9:02pm

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Sollthar wrote:

...and makes me go D'ough. smile


I think its D'Oh and its a word the dictionary now, heh.
Posted: Fri, 16th Jan 2004, 9:07pm

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Heh, seriously? Mad... smile
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2004, 9:47am

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Some films are really funny if they're played seriously, but yes, you would have benefitted from having the actors hamming it up & being more obvious. It didn't really seem as if it was trying to be funny, it felt like a serious copycat of Star Wars. The film was technically very good though, especially the space ships. I liked that robot thing & the dreamlike (?) sequence involving the robot, the girl & the bad guy.
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2004, 10:52am

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stqagehanduk

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I cut to more obvious gags and more OTT acting because it would have turned it into Panto with Spaceships.

Star Wars? I don't think so ...
Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2004, 10:53am

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I cut to more obvious gags and more OTT acting because it would have turned it into Panto with Spaceships.

Star Wars? I don't think so ...
Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2004, 3:41am

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Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2004, 4:11am

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Anonymous wrote:

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idiot! Dont screw with the forums or they'll screw with you twisted
Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2004, 4:19am

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Allright, i am sorry if this offends anyone. But your title just makes me crack up. When ever i see the top posts is look, there are titles like, "What kind of camera should i get?" "No-budget filmmaker needing advice" "The Fall of the Jedi - Cenimatic trailer" then "Holed up"


Other wise, your movie was actually pretty unique. I do agree with the suggestions in the past posts.


Andrew biggrin

Once again, sorry if that offended everyone biggrin
Posted: Sun, 1st Feb 2004, 2:22pm

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Little confused, I'm afraid ...

The title had nothing to do with me at all - The film was adapted from a comic strip for a film competition and that was the title, like it or lump it. The physical title itself had to go SOMEWHERE and sticking it over the opening shot shaved a few seconds off of a film that had to be as short as humanly possible.

It's not like I stuck GIGANTIC PRODUCTIONS present a GIGANTIC PRODUCTIONS PRODUCTION of a film by IAN WHEELER in front of it, is it? Be fair!
Posted: Mon, 2nd Feb 2004, 10:31am

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stqagehanduk

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Ooops.

A friend uses my PC and didn't log hinself out and me back in - I just noticed. That last post was actually from me.
Posted: Sat, 8th May 2004, 7:52am

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stqagehanduk

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Holed Up just won second place in the SciFi London Futureshock competition!


http://www.sci-fi-london.com
Posted: Mon, 26th Dec 2005, 1:21am

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from the pictures posted this looks good, do you have a version in Quicktime or WMP?