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the trailer to the movie i was an extra for...

Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 6:40am

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http://www.brickmovie.net/brickdotcom/Teasers/Brick_Teaser_Tiny.mov

I am a student at San Clemente High School, and our film class announced we could be extra's in a real film.

I jumped on the opportunity, showing up at 6:00 in the morning and waiting for hours to be in a two-second shot (background nonetheless), participating in all-night shoots at a scary mansion, being yelled at by a frustrated director's assistant, and much more...

but it was totally worth it. I will never forget how much fun it was to help make an actual, professional production.

My most exciting on-screen appearances include (not featured in the trailer):
countless background shots, playing a student
the official hand-double for the star of the film, Joseph Gordon Levitt
an upclose behind-my-head shot
and many shots in the foreground as a menacing Pin (one of the rival gang's)

I hope more films of this genre/style appear more often on the FXhome cinema section...

check the movie site out for more info at www.brickmovie.net
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 7:23am

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Congratulations on the appearances, however I must say that's the lamest teaser trailer I've seen in a long while.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 8:02am

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Im sorry you feel that way...

Keep in mind it is a low budget/independent film, and the trailer wont be plastered with the traditional multi-million dollar special effects shots or pulse-pounding action that plagues the movie industry today...

I enjoy it so much because i was there for the filming of most of the shots, i met all the cast and crew, and its exciting to see some of the final product.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 8:38am

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I'm sorry, but that WASN'T cheesy at all. You're absolutely right, ilykdp, just because a trailer doesn't have words flying at you the whole way through doesn't mean its a bad trailer. Any idea when this movie will be ready to hit the streets?
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 8:56am

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We had the Disney Chanel Film a movie at my school and I got to be in it. Look for it sometime around April lol... pretty stupid movie though
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 11:17am

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Nice trailer, ilykdp. I'm intrigued. Be sure to let us know the progress of the film, and when and how we can get to see the finished movie!
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 8:56pm

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No ilykdp, it's not that there's no "traditional multi-million dollar special effects shots or pulse-pounding action." I find it to be lame because I didn't understand anything from that teaser trailer in relation to what I should expect from the final film. Ok, in the beginning the voice-over says, "Do you think... you can help her?" And there's a dead body of a girl in a sewer, but from there it's just mumbling and some random shots of kabuki girls, etc.

There's no need for you to defend the movie. I've gongratulated you, made my comment on the teaser trailer as implied to do so by you making this thread and providing a link, and moved on.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 9:10pm

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ilykdp, that was really awsome. The music was fantastic, and the clips used were well chosen. Im excited to see this film when its finished. One thing I would change how ever is to add a little bit more of what the plot is about in the trailer, especially for a teaser this long.

Serder, terrible reply, not constructive or anything.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 9:35pm

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He said he was an extra in the movie, so I doubt he could change it even if he wanted to. Besides, a teaser isn't supposed to reveal much of the plot, it justs shows enough stuff to get you interested.

I personally liked it, but there's nothing wrong with thinking it's lame. Everyone has their own opinions.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 9:40pm

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i thought that, that was well shot.and that movie looked very interesting. and congrates wink
peace out
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 9:40pm

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Serdar3500 wrote:

I must say that's the lamest teaser trailer I've seen in a long while.
Hmm...That was a great trailer..but hmm just trying think what you didn't like about it. It was perfect with person talking the nice light tune fit it looks good. I guess we all have our own opinion though...

Congrats on being an extra! I haven't been an extra in a big film sad
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 9:57pm

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Hey, did someone write that music just for this film? If not, where was it from?
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 11:03pm

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i think maybe there is some confusion with my involvement in the film,

i was NOT apart of the: directing, producing, cinematography, casting, etc.

I was just an extra, I only say this because some posts seem like they have the impression I made this film/teaser

Brian Johnson is the creative mind behind this project; this whole production was his writing and directing...

As of the music used for the teaser, i do not know what song was used... I was curious to ask the Brian myself...

I will post some more info later, if anyone is interested smile
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 11:19pm

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hmm just trying think what you didn't like about it.
Did you forget to read my post? It explains why I didn't like it.

Serder, terrible reply, not constructive or anything.
jstow222, what is there to be constructive about? ilykdp is expressing his joy over some appearances he made in a short film. Now, let's think. As ilykdp stated himself, this short film was done by someone completely different with no relation to him. Am I supposed to provide constructive feedback on this short film, or maybe the teaser, or even ilykdp's appearance? Apparently we haven't seen the completed film, I've provided my feedback on the trailer, and we haven't seen ilykdp's appearances. Should I say, ""Great job ilykdp! I loved the part where you..."? I can't, because we haven't seen it. Should I say, "The part where you were in the background, it could have been made a little better if you put more emotion into it, otherwise great job and I hope to see more of you"? I can't because I haven't seen his appearances. However I did see the trailer and provided my feedback. How can I be constructive in my feedback to a trailer that was not even produced by the poster? "Hey, ilykdp. Tell the guy that knows the guy that works for the guy that helped the girl that knows the guy that directed the film to change the part where..." No, that doesn't work.

I don't want to continue a small argument that can turn big, and potentionally hurt feelings. I'm not one to do that, so I won't continue this bickering.

Again, ilykdp, I hope you really did enjoy doing that and that it was a fulfilling experience.
Posted: Tue, 20th Jan 2004, 11:43pm

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ilykdp wrote:

i think maybe there is some confusion with my involvement in the film,

i was NOT apart of the: directing, producing, cinematography, casting, etc.

I was just an extra, I only say this because some posts seem like they have the impression I made this film/teaser

I will post some more info later, if anyone is interested smile
One would think that from the Topic of your post that would be clear but you are right, it does read as if some people think you had a lot more to do with it! Funny!

I think Tarn is interested. I am too. Thanks.
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2004, 1:27am

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Well, nastiness just isnt necessary, plus you edited your post and replied based on what you edited.
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2004, 2:18am

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Was that directed at me? Please make clear who your insults are directed to. The only times I edit my posts are when I find spelling/grammar errors.
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2004, 2:44am

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Brake it up we all love each other...hehe this is funny smile
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2004, 3:58am

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It wasnt an insult, it was an observation, and yes, it was directed at you but enough of this because its gone way off topic and I cant stand it when threads gt like this so I have dropped it, hopefully you do the same.
Posted: Wed, 21st Jan 2004, 11:15pm

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for Tarn and Carter,

well the movie was filmed in my home town, San Clemente, California. The director used to go to my highschool, and has had an idea for making a movie there ever since.

Word came to our digital media teacher that there was an independent film being made, and luckily, the students were able to volunteer as extras, myself being one of them. Shooting took place in various locations around the city, but they have finished and are now in the process of editing.

The stars in the movie include:
Joseph Gordon Levitt (3rd Rock from the Sun, 10 things i Hate about You)
Edward Furlong (Terminator 2, Pecker, Detroit Rock City) was supposed to be involved, but cancelled sad
Some girl from this show "Everwood"
The original actor who played Shaft
and various others...

I was involved with the following:
intern for the cameramen, grips, and extra's coordinator
extra as a student in various locations: hallways, lockers, the library
i was a gangmember dressed in all black, we were called The Pins razz
i was also a masquerade party goer, that was an all night shoot at a HUGE house; my friends and i had alot of fun that night, haha

the movie is called "Brick" and from viewing the trailer, one might gather it is about a brick of herion (shhhh, dont tell the school administration!)

apparently, the school board was given a "cleaned up" copy of the script, that really had nothing to do with the original story. Unfortunately, I was never given a copy of the script, perhaps because I was a student and i might have told the administration, but from asking around I gathered this:

the main character, Brendan, is an outcast, loner type. His exgirlfriend gets involved with some bad people (im guessing one of the gangs) and somehow a brick of heroin is tied to everything. He has to find out what he can to solve the mystery, and it gets exciting and dramatic.

Now, when they told me the genre was, teen mystery, i thought to myself, it must be another lame, every-teeny-girl-sees-it movie; but, it actually follows an interesting, more "controversial" and dark tale that any school would allow to be involved with. I hope no one gets sued sad

If you have any further questions, just let me know smile

i will post any new info later (i.e. release dates, music info, etc.)
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 3:48am

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Some of you guys (Serdar3500) really get on my nerves!

VERY thing you say is 'thats dumb', 'what? you like that?', hey look at that, thats dumb'!

Shut up!

redface sad Sorry now i'm not posting correctly...sorry! To evryone... except Serdar3500....
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 3:58am

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The movie looks awesome. The trailer was excellent. I hope to see it eventually and I'll look for you ilykdp.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 4:01am

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I liked it. I want to see the movie. The only thing that didn't really work for me was the music. I'm not saying it should have been all DUM DUM DUM!!!! But maybe just a little bit more of what was there. I like trailers like that.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 4:11am

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RichardS wrote:

Some of you guys (Serdar3500) really get on my nerves!

VERY thing you say is 'thats dumb', 'what? you like that?', hey look at that, thats dumb'!

Shut up!

redface sad Sorry now i'm not posting correctly...sorry! To evryone... except Serdar3500....
He already got his just desserts. You don't have to rag on him some more.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 2:50am

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Some of you guys (Serdar3500) really get on my nerves!

VERY thing you say is 'thats dumb', 'what? you like that?', hey look at that, thats dumb'!

Shut up!

Sorry now i'm not posting correctly...sorry! To evryone... except Serdar3500....
I was totally over all this and all cool with jstow222 until this punk came in. Who are you? I never said "thats dumb," "what? you like that?," or "hey look at that, thats dumb!" So quit bashing me based off of incorrect quotes. Please do not continue bickering and learn to a) quote correctly and b) use proper grammar. Peace. I didn't join the forums to make enemies in an environment where the people you know and the friends you make can help you when in need. We're all aspiring filmmakers. Now I know I don't have any submissions to the cinema, or any complete movies in general, but please, show some respect. Not only to me, but everyone. In my first post I congratulated ilykdp. What more would you like for me to do? Offer a cake? I never insulted the guy. If I ever do, then I know I deserve what hits me. But if you hit me first with insults and/or offensive posts, then I will hit you back harder and won't stop until you've hit the ground.

He already got his just desserts. You don't have to rag on him some more.
My just desserts? heh heh.
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 5:47am

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Ok now lets put one thign straight here. ive just viewed the trailer. Now on senders defence, i would just like to say especially to an earlier comment. That fair enough a trailer might not have muli-million dollar budget, or in you're face texts, but that doesnt make it any better a trailer. However that does not refelct my opinion on this. i thought shot wise, it was truely inspiring.

The only let down for me was the audio, maybe i should email them. the music wasnt great needed a little more with it. something to desguise the fact the non diagetic sound from the movie just seemed an extension of the trailer, rather then an involment. It just seemed a little hollow. Wasnt the best track to use by far. if anything i would have that chime piece at the end with brick, use it as a cresendo. Other then that, im pretty excited about it, and would love to see.

Extra work is cool and all, but the problem my friend is having is he doesnt want to get type casted. For a few extra bucks its cool. you have a fun time and get paid. but on an actors point of view its the worst. My friend has been in the 3 harry potters, and now has to stop in the case that he might get type casted, and also cos hes a little old.

But it can be fun! You do learn alot
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 4:46pm

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Coldfuse wrote:

Extra work is cool and all, but the problem my friend is having is he doesnt want to get type casted. For a few extra bucks its cool. you have a fun time and get paid. but on an actors point of view its the worst. My friend has been in the 3 harry potters, and now has to stop in the case that he might get type casted, and also cos hes a little old.
Typecast for being an extra??? What are you talking about?

First, extra work isn't actor work. You don't need any skills to be an extra - you just need to be there and do as you are told. Anybody can be an extra.

When actors are concerned, while some people may show natural abilities to do it, most actors need training, workshops and other types of formations.

Typecast occurs when an ACTOR does a similar role too many times and gets pigeonholed into that image. Like there was a time when Clint Eastwood did too many westerns... Or Stallone did so many action movies, nobody buys him in anything else. Etc. Extras are "background performers", the politically correct terms to say people in the background. By that very definition, they aren't featured. Most of the time, they are blurry, out of focus and passing by...

And before anybody argues, I worked for a casting director in Canada for five years. And I also did casting in the US. It's the same everywhere else.
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 6:24pm

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JohnCarter wrote:

Coldfuse wrote:

Extra work is cool and all, but the problem my friend is having is he doesnt want to get type casted. For a few extra bucks its cool. you have a fun time and get paid. but on an actors point of view its the worst. My friend has been in the 3 harry potters, and now has to stop in the case that he might get type casted, and also cos hes a little old.
Typecast for being an extra??? What are you talking about?

First, extra work isn't actor work. You don't need any skills to be an extra - you just need to be there and do as you are told. Anybody can be an extra.

When actors are concerned, while some people may show natural abilities to do it, most actors need training, workshops and other types of formations.

Typecast occurs when an ACTOR does a similar role too many times and gets pigeonholed into that image. Like there was a time when Clint Eastwood did too many westerns... Or Stallone did so many action movies, nobody buys him in anything else. Etc. Extras are "background performers", the politically correct terms to say people in the background. By that very definition, they aren't featured. Most of the time, they are blurry, out of focus and passing by...

And before anybody argues, I worked for a casting director in Canada for five years. And I also did casting in the US. It's the same everywhere else.
Riiggghtt... ok was you at all reading at what i was getting at? First of all my friend does go to acting school and workshops. he's hoping to go rardar, doubt he will get in but we shall see. He goes to a place call *mind the spelling* Conties. Yes we all know what type cast is. But an actor can get type casted if he he wants main roles, but however does to many extra work. He's done alot of extra work for other films and he want's main role's more. At casting director is more likely to choose an actor who has more main roles then an extra with a few main roles. You see what im getting at?. It's just Harry Potter is the more known. He's done independant films, which hes had some main roles in. But yes im glad you have worked 5 years as a casting director, and im glad you felt writing that long piece directed at me was worth it! Well thanks anyway!
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First, it wasn't an attack, it was a clarification. I put a "before anybody argues" for all the smarty-pants know it all out there. Wasn't directed at you personally. It said for anybody who argues.

Second, nowhere in your original post is it stated that your friend is a working actor. Re-read yourself and you'll see it comes off as joe extra who thinks he's headed for big things because they casted a shadow on Nic Cage (real life experience) - people I have little tolerance for...

Write clearer posts and you won't get these.

Peace out!
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 2:11am

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Well john, it very much seemed like a "smart arssed" attack instead of a clarification. Especially when someone writes "before anyone argues i was a casting director" someone could say arrogance flows right through that comment. Even if it wasn't meant to be.

Now fair enough i could have given a more detailed description. But as i said extra work is not good for an actor as it isnt acting material. And that was the point i was tryign to get across, even if it was not as detailed as it could be.

hope it clears it up. Just dont assume so much, helps the process in tryingn to understand each other a little more
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 4:09am

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Coldfuse wrote:

Well john, it very much seemed like a "smart arssed" attack instead of a clarification. Especially when someone writes "before anyone argues i was a casting director" someone could say arrogance flows right through that comment. Even if it wasn't meant to be.
I never said I was a casting director, I said I worked FOR...

Big difference...

Give lessons about understanding when you learn how to read. And yeah, please do post more clearly in the future. It would be appreciated.

As for my comments, take them for what they are. I said I wasn't attacking you and I'm not. You feel persecuted, your problem. I'm getting tired of the childishness around here. That's actually why I wrote the before anybody argues line. Because a lot of people argue here without knowing or backing up what they are talking about.

Once you've explained it, your point is well taken and is actually true. But without an explanation of where you are coming from, it just sounded like posturing. I wasn't assuming anything - just going with what was written. The way you wrote your piece, your friend was in Harry Potter three times and thought he was being typecast... No mention of him being a "real" actor, no mention of anything else. It sounded like just because he was in Potter as background, he thought he was going to be the next Mel Gibson but needed to move on because he was "Potterized"... As I said, re-read yourself and try that perspective on for size.

Once again, peace out.
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 12:32pm

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Heh, why do you guys have to argue about that? smile

When Serdar doesn't like it, he doesn't like it. End of story.




For someone involved with movies it can be a cool experience to be an extra in a professional production. Bet you learned a lot of things there.
I remember that my most dominant impression when I was an extra was, that professionals have a lot more chaos on set then we do, but they have the better equipment. biggrin


For the trailer itself, I must say it doesn't appeal to me much either. But that doesn't mean it can't be a good film. smile
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 12:44pm

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lol, well solly i guess thats way the world goes round!

But yeah anyway john, i do believe you actually said you worked as a casting director in the US? but hey i might have to learn how to read as i put it, But you also need to learn how to Read and structre what you're gonna say razz

oh and once again from the once again PEACE OUT!

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edit: Im only playing with you!
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 2:43pm

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Coldfuse wrote:


But yeah anyway john, i do believe you actually said you worked as a casting director in the US? but hey i might have to learn how to read as i put it, But you also need to learn how to Read and structre what you're gonna say razz
I DID casting in the US, wasn't the CASTING DIRECTOR though... I believe in a previous post you were giving me lessons about assuming...

I think you do a lot of projections.

Anyways, let's get back to the thread.

The film is intriguing to me, although I agree with some of the comment about the music. Unfortunately, in the indie world, you have to work with what you have a lot of time.