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Chromanator demo released and future upgrade details

Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 3:09pm

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Click here to download the Chromanator demo!

Chromanator demo now available!

Click here if you want to know more about Chromanator.

The Chromanator demo is now available for download. This demo enables you to test the abilities of the program before buying. All the features are included for testing, with the following restrictions:

• Projects cannot be saved.
• Projects cannot be loaded.
• Can only render 30 frames.
• Renders include a Chromanator watermark.

Despite the demo restrictions, it is still a perfect way of sampling Chromanator's power before you commit. Let us know what you think of the demo or if you have any questions.

Enjoy!

The future of Chromanator

Yesterday we released Pre-Release 2 of Chromanator for Mac and Windows. The update added some new features as well as fixing some old problems. There is much more to come and we can now reveal what there is to look forward to.

This list indicates what will be included in the final release version of Chromanator:

Key Tools
• Chroma Key
• Hue Key
• Invert Matte
• Saturation Key
• Erode

Grading Tools
• Hue Shift
• Desaturate
• Invert
• Noise
• Posterise
• Sharpen

Effect Tools
• Motion Blur
• Radial Blur
• Zoom Blur

Masking Interface
Chromanator PR2 already has an advanced garbage matte system. This will be extended to offer independent masks that can be placed on the timeline like any other source clip. Independent masks can be applied to any other object on the timeline, giving you the power to perform very sophisticated masking techniques.

Language Conversions
We will be translating the program and its documentation into as many languages as possible.

New Project Settings and Options
Some of you have requested that the project settings be expanded with more options. We aim to offer a much wider choice of project settings and program preferences for the final release. You will also have greater control over the quality/speed of your temp renders, so you can tailor them to suit your own needs.

View options
This will give you greater control over the canvas display, allowing you to choose between combinations of RGB, RGBA or just the alpha channel by itself. You will also be able to alternate between viewing just the current track or all tracks.

Dynamic Tool Refresh
Currently the canvas display only updates once you have finished adjusting the various tool sliders and options. The dynamic refresh mode will update the display whilst you are adjusting the attributes, enabling you to see instantly how the current tool is affecting the project.

Tool Presets
Presets enable you to save and load the tool settings, so you can easily apply them to different objects and experiment with different set-ups.

We plan to have one more Pre-Release before heading straight for the final release. Thanks to all of you for your input along the way - your comments are helping to improve the program at every stage.

Let us know what you think of the future features!
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 4:01pm

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Tarn i like the demo!

Except i don't no how to use the damn thing but im sure i will find out very soon. I like your posts tarn they are always long it must take you ages to right um!

So as always +1 for both of your new posts!


Cheers,

CaLLum
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 4:03pm

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Thanks callum.

Try checking out the manual or the Quickstart guide if you want to get to grips with the program. Check them out under the Help menu from inside the program.

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Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 5:27pm

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Looks pretty good, didn't really change my mind since I've always intended to buy it once I got some cash, but it's still great to be able to play around before you buy. smile

30 frame renders seems a bit harsh though, I guess you get a feel for how well it can key at various points in your video directly in the video, but it's kinda a drag to get a second of moving video and trying to judge it in motion.
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 6:57pm

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Thanks tarn!
Im downloading the PR2 right now.

edit: Must I just install it over the Pr1?
Posted: Thu, 22nd Jan 2004, 10:05pm

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That would be the idea... unless of course, you want to keep an out of date program that is far inferior to its next version wink
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 2:44am

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Hello, I just downloaded PR2 and was having some fun with it. However, I notice that when importing multiple single image files, there did not seem to be a way to collectively drag them all to the timeline. That is to say, I do stop motion animation. I have multiple single image files. If I import them into Chromanator, how do I select all the image files and drag them to the timeline and have them all appear on one layer, one image file after the other?
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 2:55am

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Import an image stream. Put all of your files for stop motion in one folder. label them in order, 00001, 00002, etc. Then file, import, image stream. Then click on the folder and it will make it all into 1 file to scroll through!
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 3:18am

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Thanks Axeman and Brettsta. Yes, I did find the import stream option. Even though this is a good idea, I'm not too sure it would work with my work flow. Often times the image numbers may not go in a sequential order. That is to say, if I wanted pic0008 to go in front of pic0007 because it looks better in the sequence, then it would appear that Chromanator would not allow me to individually place frames where I would like. unless I dragged them one at a time. I think a good option may be to allow the selection of one pic and then use shift key to select last frame and then allow the dragging of those frames to the timeline. I guess what I would like to have is option to select frames in a collection and drag that selection to timeline.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 3:22am

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You can renumber them if you want, to the order of your liking.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 4:01am

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Tarn wrote:

Effect Tools
• Motion Blur
• Radial Blur
• Zoom Blur
I have an idea for a ripple effect. It could be very useful!
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 4:09am

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callum_slade wrote:

Tarn i like the demo!

Except i don't no how to use the damn thing but im sure i will find out very soon. I like your posts tarn they are always long it must take you ages to right um!

So as always +1 for both of your new posts!


Cheers,

CaLLum
Read the manual, if it comes with it. Its very helpful

EDIT: Ahh sorry, forgot that I keep posting

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Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 8:12am

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You said that you should translate the program into different languages, no that I think so but it would be great if one was Swedish. I could help.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 3:52pm

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ernesttx wrote:

Thanks Axeman and Brettsta. Yes, I did find the import stream option. Even though this is a good idea, I'm not too sure it would work with my work flow. Often times the image numbers may not go in a sequential order. That is to say, if I wanted pic0008 to go in front of pic0007 because it looks better in the sequence, then it would appear that Chromanator would not allow me to individually place frames where I would like. unless I dragged them one at a time. I think a good option may be to allow the selection of one pic and then use shift key to select last frame and then allow the dragging of those frames to the timeline. I guess what I would like to have is option to select frames in a collection and drag that selection to timeline.
If you're doing stop-motion, surely your frames would all be in the right order? Moving a frame out of order would make the animation seem very strange.

If you selected several objects from the Media Browser and dragged them to the timeline, there would be no way of knowing where you wanted to put them - all on the same track, on top of each other, what order...
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 6:32pm

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I downloaded PR2 and I can't access the chroma keying or anything, there's nothing in the tool box, except for media preview and media list.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 6:50pm

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You need to place an object on the timeline, then switch to the Object View, by selecting a timeline object and clicking the 'Object' tab on the bottom left.

Try reading the Quickstart to get familiar with the basics.
Posted: Fri, 23rd Jan 2004, 9:00pm

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Tarn, Malone, and the rest of the CSB crew:

Congrats on getting this far with Chromanator!

Something cool to include would be a few (as in 3-5) scenes (I could say the same thing for AlamDV & DigiGrade) that would allow users to test their rendering/system performance. Also having some type of Performance matrix so users could see what part of their machine they would need to upgrade -or rather which part first wink - to enjoy better performance.
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 1:45pm

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Why can you only choose between red,gren and blue?
You should be able to use a eyedropper tool to choose wich color to be keyed out (if you alredy can do this then im sorry).
And the files that you could download to use with the quickstar guide does not work for me. Im missing som file in quicktime.
Do anyone know where i can get it?
I have the newest version so its not there the error is.
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 2:19pm

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The colour difference is designed to work with red, green or blue and give excellent results.

You are referring to the chroma key tool, which will be in the next update and will work using a pipette-style tool whereby you can choose any colour. This is useful if you have an unusual screen or colour difficulty, but when using a greenscreen, the colour difference tool will usually give better results.

But rest assured, the tools you're asking about are on their way. smile

I don't know why you would be having trouble with the quickstart files - they use the Quicktime DV codec.

Has anybody else had any problems with them?
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 2:44pm

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NO, they worked amazing! Should I post my test with it?
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I have a suggestion for future effects for Chromanator, This one is already posted, but:

A ripple effect that can affect the footage
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 11:13pm

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Ok thanks then i can calm down wink
Do you get the Dv with quicktime when you download it or do u get it in some other place?
If you get it with the quicktime installer at www.apple.com/quicktime then my computer is retarded
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 11:14pm

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Why would one want another color besides green, blue or red?
Posted: Sat, 24th Jan 2004, 11:19pm

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Brettsta
It's probably for if your greenscreen isn't the right green or blue or whatever or if there is an object you want to take out. that isn't of the three colors.
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 11:40am

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Well i actualy did a really fast test with a white screen and that is becouse i dont have a red/green/blue screen.
Oh in the full version of cromanator can you choose wich resulution and framerate your movie has? Becouse you cant do that in the demo
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 12:29pm

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Tarn, It seems as if you told me once that Chromanator will accept diffrent deminsions of video. So that if its smaller than the project, the project will get smaller or something, not leaving the white area as it does now.

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 12:48pm

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In the final version there will be many project settings to choose from as well as being able to make your own custom projects.
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 12:54pm

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Yes!

And how will many PR's do you think there will be til the final release?

Also, how many upgrades can you get for the program until you have to pay? Up to the final release, then when 2 or PR1 for 2 comes out, i will have to pay?

if you understand me...

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Sun, 25th Jan 2004, 1:19pm

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Right, well we expect a PR3 release then the version 1 release biggrin so not long now.

As for upgrade costs if you won't have to pay for anything until version 2. Stuff you would pay for are extended licences (for professionals who cannot credit fxhome on their film) or if we make something like Chromanator Professional with loads more functions for pro users.
Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2004, 2:40am

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You have said you will update some of the project settings. Does this include the deinterlacer? A blend deinterlacer would be far better than dropping half the vertical resolution.
Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2004, 4:42pm

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what does Hue Shift do? Will it be like the hue/saturation in PS?
Posted: Thu, 29th Jan 2004, 4:46pm

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Lloyd - if you are looking to retain quality, you should use the Broadcast Quality Interlace option so that it uses split fields. This enables you to work on interlaced footage without losing any quality.

You can then use your encoder of choice to perform final deinterlacing duties.
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 10:43am

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If I purchase Chromanator now will I get free upgrades when a new version is released
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 11:20am

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You will get free upgrades to any 1.x version released. (This will likely include a large number of updates). Once it hits version 2.0, there will be an upgrade fee.