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Satellite

Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 11:43am

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devilskater

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HI guys.
As I have already asked in the Special effcüects forum, I need a satellite.
And this is how I would like it done:



Sry, for the bad image, but i am in switzerland now and here i only have a really bad pc(win95). Anyway the satellite starts on the left and should point to point A, then it swerves to the right still showing to point A.

The satellite should have solar things on the sides, and if possible in a resonable quality, and texture. To have a better visual of what i mean by satellite check out this:
Just that the solar things should be longer.

I am only getting 3dsmax on saturday, as my cousin ownes a small archetecture company and hell lend it to me, so gota learn all of it. So soon i wont be bothering you anymore.

Thanx alot cheers devilskater
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 12:44pm

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Bowie

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Something like this? I can make a plugin from it. tard
http://homepage.mac.com/atps/sat.mp4
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 1:15pm

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KimPossible

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I had trouble with your text. The picture makes it even worse. Sorry - I must be dense. It just makes no sense to me!

Oh - from the additional text, I think I get it - let me try it.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 6:38pm

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rmw

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You have to do quite a bit of tutorials before you can make a photoreal satellite.

Wil the satellite be far or near the camera?
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 9:40pm

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jimgf

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Hi devilskater,

I think I know the type of shot you're looking for. It appears several times in the movie, "Enemy of the State", starring Will Smith. The satellite sweeps from one side of the screen to the other, while the Earth or some continents are shown in the background. I've seen this this type of shot in other movies and TV shows as well.

I too want to use a shot like this in a film. However, I was just going to copy the shot from the movie and insert it in mine. It only lasts for about a second or two. I haven't actually done this yet, and I don't know the legality of it. Would it violate some copyright laws to use a scene from a movie that's only 1-2 seconds long? For a fan film, I thought it might be OK, since no one's making a profit on it, but I don't know.

Anyways, I thought I'd mention it.

A plugin for this would be sweet, though.

jimgf
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 10:06pm

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KimPossible

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Since I have a basis to look at - I'll go from that. I think I have the movie in the collection. I have everything else. wink

I'll render the planet as a 3D model too so it doesn't look flat and icky.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 11:03pm

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Gibs

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jimgf wrote:

I too want to use a shot like this in a film. However, I was just going to copy the shot from the movie and insert it in mine. It only lasts for about a second or two. I haven't actually done this yet, and I don't know the legality of it. Would it violate some copyright laws to use a scene from a movie that's only 1-2 seconds long? For a fan film, I thought it might be OK, since no one's making a profit on it, but I don't know.
I don't think it would break any copyright laws. For research projects, you are allowed to use no more than 8 seconds of a copyrighted video, as long as you cite the source. So if you don't make any money and give them credit at the end, you should be okay.
Posted: Tue, 3rd Feb 2004, 11:58pm

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KimPossible

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Research Title 17 for Fair Use. And I'm not a lawyer, so I'm not saying that really says anything, but you'd do yourself a favor by knowing Title 17 anyway...

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/index.html

Especially where it intersects Sec. 107 -

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.html

smile
Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2004, 8:45pm

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devilskater

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Jesh, jimgf you're my savior. Exactly, thats the one i wanted. The Satellite close to the camera. So that makes two of us who need this cool.

Anyway sorry, cannot look at your test or attempt bowie, as i am working on a win 95 pc up in the mountains in switzerland sad.
Ill have a look later, sry.

well thanx for all your replies, but now you all hopefuly know of what i would like this shoot to loook like.

Cheers devilskater
Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2004, 4:31am

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jimgf

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No problem, devilskater. Glad to have helped. Good luck with your movie.
jimgf
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 7:09pm

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devilskater

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hello,
I am still waiting for my satellite, i know im annoying but i have been waiting quiet long for this. I am really dependent on you guys. Just need a satellite, which is close to the camera and is in high quality and something like the enemy of the state type satellite.
It should swerve from the left screen side to the right screen side.

Thanx devilslater

Sry for the pushing!!!
Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2004, 2:30pm

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devilskater

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OK then not. Can somebody then atleast tell me where i can get some tutorials for beginners for either 3ds max or cinema 4d, so that i can do a satellite myself, if no ones gonna do it for me.
Which one is actually easier to use and very good at the same time.
Cause i am either gonna buy cinema 4d or 3ds max.

Devilskater
Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2004, 3:53pm

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Mugsy42

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I think the problem here is that if you have a cgi satilite you may as well render the entire shot as cg rather than trying to make it a plug in, the result would be more realistic.

Jake 2.0 also does the satalite thing every week

I have a cg sat and various worlds to use as back drops , whether they will be good enough for you to use , i dont know, but if you like i will render it for you , but you will have to tell me exactly what you want , and even then the finished result might not be what you are looking for.

Let me know if you want to try anyway
Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2004, 9:57pm

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pboniface

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Well, I created a few stills, made them into a plug-in, uploaded it... it was in my list as "Pending review".. and its neither in my list nor in the plug-ins now...

so, I'm guessing its been bounced....I wish someone would tell me why this was.. If it's something I'm doing wrong then that would help improve the quality of my plug-ins... probably..smile
Posted: Mon, 1st Mar 2004, 11:56pm

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Brettsta

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pboniface wrote:

Well, I created a few stills, made them into a plug-in, uploaded it... it was in my list as "Pending review".. and its neither in my list nor in the plug-ins now...

so, I'm guessing its been bounced....I wish someone would tell me why this was.. If it's something I'm doing wrong then that would help improve the quality of my plug-ins... probably..smile
check your email
Posted: Mon, 29th Mar 2004, 6:33pm

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devilskater

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Can anybody explain how to do animation in 3ds max or give me a site were i can learn the basics of 3ds max. I got a sat. modul from 3d cafe but need to animate it with a background and stuff like that.

Cheers devilsater
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2004, 12:36pm

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ncbball317

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i know this great website for 3d studio max. it is 3dcafe.com
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2004, 12:38pm

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ncbball317

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it will teach you alot includein what you wanted there are stuff there im sure they have it already built and then you just have to render it
Posted: Sun, 18th Apr 2004, 12:44pm

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Pooky

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www.3dtotal.com is a great one