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Soldier's Story

Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2004, 8:11am

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Kyeju

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Soldier's Story was meant to be a fun summer project over summer 2003. We went in expecting to shoot a sweet fx test with gunshots, and nice explosions but came out with a story of a soldier who we thought, went through what almost every soldier did. He goes through several phases of emotion starting with homesickness and ending with sacrifice. Soldier's Story is in no way a realistic representation of the horrors of vietnam. It just has some kickass amateur fx, and action. Enjoy.
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Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2004, 5:39pm

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ajjax44

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Good effects. I didn't dig the whole white tee-shirts in the woods bit, but overall, good editing, good music, good effects. Keep making films, they'll only get better.

AJ
Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2004, 9:42pm

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i loved it. i loved the sounds, where did you get them? and i liked the exlosion Useage (if that is is word) what effect did you use for the bullets flying past? and what music did you use. I over all loved it dude. wink probebly the only thing i would have worked on was the Props. but thats about it.
peace out
keep up the good work.
Ps: please answer my questions. smile
Posted: Wed, 4th Feb 2004, 10:49pm

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Kyeju

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The sound effects were something I spent a SH**LOAD of time on. Some sound fx were used from Saving Private Ryan, others well...I dont want to reveal biggrin . The tracer bullet effects is extremely easy to do in after fx. Just create a beam, animate it, give it motion blur, and give it a yellow glow, and SHAZAM...tracer bullets.

Again...we are 15 year old kids and were making a fun summer project. And SCREW COSTUMES! all our money went to PYROTECHNICS! cool

Thanks for all the nice comments keep em coming. Oh and there is a gag nobody is catching.
Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2004, 4:13am

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MistahG

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An instant 5. The time and effort spent was clear, and the sound and music fx were just as incredible. Had that professional, blockbuster feature film feel. Good piece, nice cinematography.
Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2004, 6:08am

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everything was great exept the acting...yeah just need to work a little more on that and the line "where are we going" thats sounded way to kidish to me but over all good job
Posted: Thu, 5th Feb 2004, 8:49pm

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ok first the good, than the bad, than the review-
the good:
1)maybe the best effects ive seen in a movie on this site
2)the munitons place was sweet looking
3)pretty good setting(the woods)
4)The helicopters at the end and the camping out scene

the bad:
1)im sorry but the acting was terrible, the reason why i gave this movie a 3 instead of a 4 or 5 was because I couldn't really take any of this movie seriously. its like a bunch of 13 yr olds running around in the woods who dont really play the part.
2)the costumes. I understand you maybe dont wanna wear heavy camo in the summer or didnt wanna go out and buy any, but at least where dark green t-shirts, not bright white. that doesnt look "soldierish" to begin with, plus white will attract everyone.
3)the music, its totally jacked from star wars and lord of the rings, and other big name movies.
4)the main soldiers machine gun, is that from like fisher price or something?

the review: alright I hope you dont think I am being to hard on you guys, but this is just what i thought and you should take into consideration the advice im giving you. Work on your acting and DRESS the part, maybe buy a few more realistic looking guns but keep the editing you already have....I wont have one complaint. By far the best aspect of the movie was the bullets whizzing by effect.
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Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2004, 5:31am

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Wow!!!! Very Nice. Clear Sounds and nice Bullet Markers. That's pretty good job for a 15yr. old. Most Adults cant do it as good as that. Very Nice. Also, where did u get the Helicopter Effect?
Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2004, 8:08pm

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Kyeju

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Thanks for the nice comments. The helicopter effect was done in 3ds max and composited in after effects. Again about the acting...this film was meant to be fun. It was everyone on the crew's first film (except mine) so they really had to learn the works. We really didnt spend much time on creating clever lines, but as we went along I think we got so much better than we started out as.

I am currently in the process of filming The Trojan War for english class so that should be something to watch out for to show our acting skills.
Posted: Fri, 6th Feb 2004, 9:05pm

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Kyeju

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tcaparzokid wrote:

the music, its totally jacked from star wars and lord of the rings, and other big name movies.
Uh none of the music was from star wars and one song was from lord of the rings buddy.
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 5:40pm

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anonymous

fine i dont know the exact music tracks, but I watched the movie and I recognized all of the music from it,. If it wasn't from star wars or something, it was definitley from other big movies. The fight scene at the end with the bamboo sticks or whatever, that music was defintley noticeable..
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 8:37pm

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Kyeju

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If you can't name the movie it was from than I was sucessful in choosing it.
Posted: Sat, 7th Feb 2004, 10:53pm

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I really enjoyed this movie. You guys did a GREAT job considering your resources !
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 10:30am

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DRAYKO

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Great job I loved it. the camera work fight scenes & xplosions where
awesome keep up the good work.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 3:25pm

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Rating: -1

ok terrible movie, yeah the effects were hot but if the people stop just looking at just that, they'll notice the HUGE amount of messups in this movie, ill list them for you. (youll all crack up after yout notice these messups)
1 The movie is called SOLDIER'S STORY, yet on the top of the quicktime window it says SOLIDER'S STORY (may wanna watch out for those spelling errors guys)
2)The wimp who plays the main character calls his officer 'captain jansen', yet in the credits his name is 'SARGEANT' jansen.....hmmmmm
3) Although the effect was cool, at the end when the main kid fights the guy with the rocket launcher, it launched up in the air. OK...i don't know if you were aware of this but..rockets explode in mid air, they don't fly up and than just fall right back down. (Think TOY STORY "I just lit a rocket, ROCKETS EXPLODE!!!!")
4) The acting disgusts me. "Cap'n where are we going" "Cap'n I wanna go home"....bro your a soldier not a little girl. And I couldnt stop cracking up when the jansen kid was running away and hes like COOOOOME OOOON!!!!
Looks like hes got down syndrome.

Overall this movie is a 2 from me cuz the effects were really cool....however what good do effects do if the movie sucks? One more think though I will admit. The ending was well done, with the munitions complex and the helicopters and the final shot of the kids face..not bad. Other than that 2/5 guys.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 3:54pm

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Xcession

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hmm. That was very entertaining, but i'm confused why (at the time of writing this) it has a rating of 4.5. I'd put it more around 2.5 to 3.0, max.

Its all been said before, but just to re-itterate.

Lack of costumes
Cringleworthy acting
Toys R Us gun
Teenager carrying empty drain pipe on his shoulder
Poor mixing
Pedestrial plot pace
Poor light balancing on camera

I confess I stopped watching it properly, and skipped on a few frames till i saw some more guns or explosions or something, so i can't really comment that much on it. But that is, in itself, a comment - the fact that i skipped most of your film due to its interminal half-heartedness.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 8:41pm

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Kyeju

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Xcession I think that there is a reason why I put in the movie description that this was meant to be a fun summer project. I know most of you are complaining about our costumes and our props. We used what we had and that was the best we could come up with so I'm sorry if you are not pleased with it. Also if you are just skipping around looking for explosions and gunfights why are you even commenting on plot?

Also someone before made a comment on poor mixing. I think the sounds in this film are really above par, especially on this site.

No one really commented on the color grading or the montage scene which I think is the real strong point of the movie.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 9:22pm

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ajjax44

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Kyeju is either 14 or 15 years old (judging by the film). Knowing that, it is obvious this film had effort put into it; it is very good considering the resources he had. The 3d effects were so money for a kid that age. In fact, I'd like him to help us with special effects on our new Fingerman episodes this summer. It's very difficult when you're that age to get actors who are able to pull things off cleanly or even show up. It's also difficult to find props or costumes without having your parents pay for it. The fact of the matter is, if put this film next to some of the other films done by kids his age on this site - it's above average (at least). Perhaps that's why you're seeing all of the 4's and the 5's.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:15pm

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Xcession

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Did you not read? The fact that i was skipping to the gun fights and explosions was in *itself* a comment. I was commenting on how the plot bored me rigid, largely down to the other factors. Please pay more attention.

Too many people tend to say "oh this was nothing in particular, just a test" (or similar) when in fact its simply their way of making it look like they don't really care about the ratings.

This attitude reflects the fact that they are unlikely to read other peoples' critique either.

As a result of the noncomittal description, people don't tend to critizise. Result: those who don't want any criticism, don't get any...when in fact they *ought* to be getting some. Therefore i re-itterated what other people said, just in case you felt one person was enough to ignore. They aren't.

Ajjax does have a point tho. There are many far worse films in the cinema done by people far older, so it shows a great deal of potential, if nothing else.

I've already placed my rating now, but i still don't believe its worth a 4. I gave it a 3, but i'm willing to raise that to a 3.5. The remaining half a point to make that a four, is going to dangle on a string in front of your face...so that you do better next time razz
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 5:27am

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BaneyBoy

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Rating: +1

I decided to give this movie a 3, which in my opinion was a somewhat generous rating.

First I will list the things I liked about the movie:

The effects were done pretty well: The best effect was either the helicopters or when the uprooted tree was shot but it looked like you had planted a firecracker in it or something. The bullet whizzes were good but could even be faster if possible to avoid looking like lasers. The muzzle flashes were pretty good.

I couldn't identify the music clips, which seemed to fit well with what was going on.

I will also give you that there were some good camera shots in the movie.

Then the bad:

As others said, the acting was distractingly bad. It felt like the emotion of the characters was out of place; just imagine the soldiers as people who are about to die. Our movie was intended to be overacted with terrible lines, and I honestly think most of the lines were acted out better.

Also, there was one instance where it looked like one of the characters meant to shout something but was holding back from raising his voice, which was kind of strange. (I think it was the "smoke screen" line. The smoke effect is mediocre and I think that part could have been left out altogether).

I noticed the white shirts, but I understand that is all that you had and were making the project for fun.

Some of the moves in the battle with the pipe-wielding teenager were overdone, such as jumping to dodge blows to his feet.

There wasn't too much of an established plot, although plot was less important for this film.


Overall: I don't think you should get freebie points for being 15 years old. I am 16 years and 5 months old and I feel that it would not have been difficult to improve a little bit on some things.

Again, the effects were done well and were not really overused for a movie of this type.

The acting was too distracting to be able to watch it as much more than an effects test.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 3:35pm

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ajjax44

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I dunno...I liked your flick man, despite the minor problems. Good job, keep up the good work and congrats on taking over the first place spot bro.
AJ
Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2004, 9:05pm

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Kyeju

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Uh...kung fu kid care to explain why this movie deserved a 1?
Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2004, 4:47am

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kungfukid

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im veeerry sorry about that it was an accident i would give u 4 stars but it wont lemme change it
Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2004, 10:46am

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Dude in the ending few shots i could make out the explosions were luma keyed out. Why didnt you use the add transfer mode? I like the style of the cam through the bushes effect, you should have worked more on the matte. Its fun stuff, i see ur gonna go far. 3 pts.
Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2004, 2:35pm

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FroDittyBro

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nice effects like at the end with the bomb. Sound effects were awesome. Acting was eh. Nice job 3 pts
Posted: Mon, 16th Feb 2004, 9:36pm

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stqagehanduk

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That was interesting ...

I'd read all the posts before I watched this and I have to say that the effects weren't as good as I'd epected but conversely the film itself wasn't nearly as bad.

Don't shoot on auto - your first shot changes drastically as some moves into the foreground, for example. You beat an awful lot of people here simply by actually having a story rather than having slapped together the effects and called it a trailer, although you do lose points by not bothering with better props and costumes. You could at least have dirtied up the t-shirts. If you can't get decent guns then you can make them quite easily. That's what Peter Jackson did on Bad Taste, his first movie.

I'm not going to vote on it simply because I can't decide - its virtues sort of cancel out its faults and a middling score would be pointless to give, either way. Well done.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 2:50pm

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Solid Snake

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pathetic acting
great effects, and well created battle scenes,
Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2004, 4:43pm

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Kyeju

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Hey thanks for all the nice comments and sorry you didnt like the acting.

In the next two weeks I will have finished my new film The Trojan War for english class and was wondering if anyone would be willing to provide webhosting. It will probably be around the same length of Soldier's Story maybe longer.

And I will try to improve my acting on this movie despite our extremely tight time constraints.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Feb 2004, 3:01am

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Solid Snake

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lol, sorry, i suppose i aint much of an actor aswell
anyway, you AREN'T marked on your acting abilities, you are marked on your film making skills, in which i think are pretty good
Posted: Thu, 4th Mar 2004, 2:23am

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Kyeju

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Hey everyone. I got a Gl2 today.
Posted: Thu, 4th Mar 2004, 2:35am

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Thats awesome! Tell us how you like it!
Posted: Thu, 4th Mar 2004, 2:45am

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HEY SWEET MOVIE...I LOVED IT...DO YOU THINK YOU WILL WORK ON A BIG MOVIE THOUGH...THAT IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE!!! OH YEA..........KICK ASS CAMERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Thu, 4th Mar 2004, 8:55pm

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Kyeju

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I freaking LOVE it! I still have alot to learn about using it's features to the max, but so far I think it's brilliant. By the way next up coming possibly this weekend is the Trojan War. I did it for an english project in a month with every scene (besides 1) shot on blue/greenscreen. It's a total of 13 minutes long and features a battle scene that has something like 500 soldiers fighting. Because I was on a deadline we really didnt get the quality of acting I would've liked but for being done in a month I think it turned out nicely.
Posted: Fri, 5th Mar 2004, 8:21pm

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Kyeju

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Last day for Soldier's Story, thanks for watching all! Just submitted The Trojan War so keep an eye out!
Posted: Wed, 7th Apr 2004, 1:00am

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AWSOME FILM! what kind of camcorder did u use, was it a Cannon GL2? and did you use Chromonator for the cloneing??