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Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 7:37am

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Hey guys, this isnt one of my "gay" topics, so dont worry. But I was with a friend the other day and he went to a website under the DNS of :

www.themoviespoiler.com

Now who would go to a site like this? The whole purpose of the site is to read detail by detail about a movie and what its about. So instead of seeing the movie people just read this "spoilers" on this website. Im sorry but i couldnt do it. I have to SEE the movie for myself, otherwise i might as well just pick up some Tom Clancy book and read it and there would be no point in making movies at all.

No insult towards tom clancy i think he is a GREAT author.
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 9:00am

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heh, I dont need that site, movies are predictable enough.

by the way this is waser, just too lazy to sign in/check if i spelled predictable right
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 10:51am

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I find it funny that you say that, waser, when you yourself are a moviemaker, are you not? Does that mean that your movies will all be predictable as well? Interesting subject to think upon, no doubt.
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 6:18pm

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i agree..what movies do you see?? not all movies are predictable my friend. well not the good ones. biggrin
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 7:03pm

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yes, when i say movie, I mean every single one that has ever been made. of course there are movies that are un-predictable, but i'd just say most movies are now, because they use formulas that are pretty much un-changed, but of course there are movies that are un-predictable, I just haven't seen one in a while
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 7:06pm

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ah you do make a good point..a movie i saw recently that wasnt pretty predictable was "butterfly effect". i thought that movie was quite good. enve ashton kutcher did a good job. but i do agree with you waser..movies these days lost their touch. but not all movies, more of the mainstream ones.
Posted: Sun, 8th Feb 2004, 10:52pm

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M. Night Shyamalan make excellent movies that aren't predictable.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 12:15am

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I agree with you Axeman

Unfortunately my sis told me how 6th sense ended before i saw it....so...haha


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Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 12:45am

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Axeman wrote:

M. Night Shyamalan make excellent movies that aren't predictable.
I totally disagree. I figured out the Sixth Sense without even going to see it - just with the tag line of the film (I see dead people) and the fact that Bruce Willis only talks to the kid through the whole thing.. It was obvious ten seconds in.

As for Signs, all those insistant shots on the water and all the other water/baseball related themes in the film throughout gave away the plot elements that lead to the ending, which was a stupid one at that... I don't want to give too much away, but it's like a country wanting to invade Tchernobyl... Doesn't make a whole lot of sense...

And the other one with Willis, well, the guy is indestructible, the other breaks like glass... Two sides of the same coin... Blah blah blah... Throw in the comic book connection - and if you read enough comics - the conclusion to this one is EASY!

I wouldn't say they are unpredictable... I'd say they are intriguing and very well marketed, but definitely not unpredictable...
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 2:08am

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I agree with you JohnCarter..signs was one of the most predictable movies ever. the whole water based plot was ridiculous. it sorta ruined the movie. The suspense and all was very good but at the end when the water was finally introduced as their savior (because i knew throughout the whole film) i was really bummed out. sixth sense wasnt THAT predictable. but it was in some ways. usually you will find a title that gives away the movie in some odd way. but only if you are smart enough biggrin
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 2:19am

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I'm sorry but Sixth sense WAS very predictable... Even if he's estranged from his wife, when they meet at the restaurant on their anniversary, she would look at him, not through him, no matter how mad she was. besides, every time something funky would happen, something red was in the screen - shirt, door knob, etc... If that's not predictable, what else is?

It was a very well crafted tale, but it was predictable. You just have to look for the clues.

Shyamalan is a good filmmaker and I enjoy his films for the most part - but he's far from the genius he's been made out to be. His marketing is brilliant though. Can't wait to see the village.

What he does is go to the root of telling stories... Nothing new there. He basically tells you only enough to keep the story intriguing. The whole thing is mapped out - he just chooses to show you some parts until the whole thing comes together in the end.

It comes off as a "refreshing" thing after years of Syd Field pap spoon-fed to us by Hollywood...

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Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 2:24am

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On the dvd Shyamalan said all of the cools. It was really cool. Sixth sense was a very enjoyable movie! It was funny that he was a guy signs.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 2:44am

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Movies that have twists are of course going to be predictable because if someone else has seen it, or you read reviews, you know there's going to be a twist and you're looking for it the whole time. If I didn't know there was a twist in The Usual Suspects, I would have been surprised. But unfortunately, I knew there was a twist. I just didn't know what. So I was looking through the whole thing for clues, and i figured it out. But if you go into it not expecting a twist, then it's not predictable.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 3:19am

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AH! I WATCHED THE USUAL SUSPECTS WITHOUT KNOWING!
I thought that movie rocked. it totally caught me off guard! i loved it
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:04am

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Normally when i watch a movie im not trying to analyze it and figure out the end or anything...so they're not usually predictable (there are exceptions tho)


haha

im sure if i tried they would be obvious tho

-MAGIC
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:07am

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i try to analyze as much as i can about everything in the film im watching. learn from the mistakes others make..
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:08am

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Yeah, you really have to sit down and look for clues. And that's not what was intended by the makers of the movie. They intended it to be a twist. That people won't realize is coming. But when people go off and say "Oh, there's a twist, but I won't tell you what it is." you start looking for stuff and it ruins it.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:54am

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yeah its a big bummer and i hate the ppl who do that to me! bastards
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:59am

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I knew nothing at the time of the Sixth Sense... I just saw the trailer before an Episode I presentation. I'd never heard of it. Just by watching the trailer, I knew what the "twist" was...
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:07am

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Well, we all know you have psychic powers... biggrin
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 1:36pm

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i wish i had psychic powers cool
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 1:38pm

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that was me up there
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 3:01pm

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Aculag wrote:

Well, we all know you have psychic powers... biggrin
No but seriously - if you watch the trailer, you'll notice that Willis talks to no one but the kid... Everybody seems to not see him. Then the kid says... I see dead people... It's a no brainer.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 3:17pm

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I knew absolutely nothing about 6th Sense when I saw it...I don't think I was even aware that there was a twist. Therefore I wasn't looking out for anything, and it took me totally by surprise. Really like that film, one of Willis' best performances too.

Signs, on the other hand, was just a silly film. Very odd acting in it, too. Seemed like very poor acting...except it was deliberate, so presumably it was a stylistic choice. Just sat oddly with me. As for the main twist/plot - well, it was just plain daft. An alien race that is vastly allergic to water decide to come to an aquatic planet? Er, good move there.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:32pm

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what would you do if you had to write the solution for the film? I agree that water was sort of a drag and that they couldve done something a lot better. i wouldve been very happy with the demise of the whole world! that wouldve been awesome! something different
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:41pm

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I have no idea, because I wouldn't have written myself into a corner in the first place. smile

The religious elements to the ending also didn't seem to really be designed to work for anybody other than Christians, rather than simply dealing with it thematically, which would have enabled people of all opinions to get something out of it. All came across as a bit heavy handed in general.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 6:02pm

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that was me as the guest..sorry

But yeah i agree with you there, i wouldnt have written myself into a corner like that either.

And thats the thing about religious elements in a film. it can only please certain people. not everyone will agree with your movie, and when they dont agree, they wont like. smile
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 10:46pm

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WHAT?!?!?

Edward Norton and Brad Pitt are the same person? Oh, you guys are lame...
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 4:06am

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confused huh?
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 6:59am

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Being an Edward Norton Fan I thought you would have got that. I'll give you a hint, its from a movie he was in with Brad Pitt.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 4:48pm

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no i know what movie it is from obviously. fight club. but it was just so random what you said. and i know you meant it as an example for a twist but i dunno..it just came out of no where..dont worry biggrin
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 4:49pm

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that was me..hehe
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 5:35pm

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i love how the topic of this thread got so derailed..its great. really. biggrin