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CG Effects Test

Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 11:10am

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jaycoolyea

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This is a computer graphics/ video effects test. Programs used were DoGA L2 CGA System, and ALAM DV.

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Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 3:56pm

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good cga and effects
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 4:07pm

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I really hate replies like Guests. At least put in a bit more effort than that ffs, you complete pleb! Use some punctuation too! Saying just 'good' to someones movie is about as constructive as saying 'sh*t'...because you're not really helping that person develop anything. Pull your finger out, child!

Anyway, yeah the cg was ok, but the alamdv was better. Cg is always harder to get right, due to the environment-issues regarding light sources, textures, movement, physics etc. Although the cg wasn't great, and the movement was poor, the camera shots were, however, pretty good. The ship flying into the camera and exploding was pretty cool, despite the poor ship graphics.

Assuming that your cg was just thrown together in a few minutes, and hasn't really gone through any planning stages or tweaking; it still shows a great deal of potential.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:38pm

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anonymous

hey fuck you xcesson
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:56pm

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guest, get out of the forums please. these are for people with constructive things to say, not mindless crap.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 5:57pm

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i am using extremely outdated CG software. are there any cheap, better CG programs out there?
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 10:28pm

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Movement's nice, and it's fast. It looks scanlined, so there's no sense of mass - this stuff tends to look better heavily shadowed.

Really, it's down to effort. Moving clouds would have helped. Once again, tests are all very well but its contextless.
Posted: Mon, 9th Feb 2004, 10:44pm

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the earth and clouds and all were made in the 3d program, there's no way to move them. is there a better CG program out there i can get with a low budget?
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 3:09am

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There are many free and cheap 3d programs out there. The one I use (although I know a lot of people hate it because of it's weird UI) is Blender http://www.blender.org

you can make some pretty nice-looking stuff with it. An example is the hallway I made here

-Brian
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 3:15am

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Thats nice StarX. I am trying to get into 3d. ANy tuts you can lead me to or tell me how to go about creating an environment such as a hall like that in a prog like 3ds max.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 5:26am

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thanks for the reply starx, vodo you know of any tutorials?

anyone else know of free 3d programs?
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 9:32am

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I dont really understand why anyone is saying this isnt that good, as i thought it was one of the better 3d test attempts ive seen on here. When the ship flys between the others, it looked quite good. the camera movement wasnt the best, otherwise it would have looked much better. I would have to reccomend corels "Bryce 5", its a very easy and efficient 3d program and you can export in avi and such. i think its around $80. Plus, i share a name with it.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 9:51am

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Then cheat, and use Premiere. It doesn't actually have to BE 3d to LOOK 3d.

Render your objects as seperate layers - background, forground object. Then use photoshop to make a cloud layer, and run a transparency gradient over it. Composite the layers in Premiere and animate the cloud layer using Video Optins/Motion. You can get a nice subtle parrallax effect going.

I always add haze that way, and you can see what the effects look like if you look at the two Warsmith sequences I've posted.

You didn't answer the scanline question. Are the ships fully raytraced? They look too well lit to be.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 1:02pm

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jaycoolyea

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i'm not exactly sure what you mean by 'raytraced.' i'm new to 3D, so could you explain what it is?
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:09pm

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I think you need to do some reading. I don't say that to be mean - it's a big subject and any answer I give you now is going to be pretty superficial.

3d modelling does just that - it describes a model and how light interacts with it. Scanlining and Raytracing are two (and there's more) methods of rendering those images. So, broadly speaking:

Scanlining is a simple description of the object you've created which doesn't take in anything else in the scene. So it'll shade the underside of an object but won't cast shadows, and while you'll get highlights on objects you won't get reflections.

Raytracing is just that - it calculates light as rays from the source and recreates full shadows, reflections and light bounce. You're not going to get photorealism without raytracing but it takes a lot longer and a lot more processing power.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 3:24am

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As soon as 3d work is mentioned my ears prick up smile

Free wise.... Blender is pretty much as good as it gets. But if you're willing to spend then I'd recommend cinema 4d. It'll set you back around £300. But oh boy is it worth it.

The shot where the ship blows up coming towards the cam was top stuff.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 5:59pm

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someone plaese point me toward a good blender tutorial, because i'm lost.
Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2004, 4:35pm

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the thing with blender is that it takes a freaking genious to figure out, I tried for 2 years then gave up and went to Hash its way more user friendly and its what a lot of schools use. Ill give you their link so check it ou! biggrin it costs about $250 and is worth it. On the site you can see what others have done with the program and download new models.

http://www.hash.com/
Posted: Fri, 13th Feb 2004, 7:06pm

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thanks frozenpede, i'll check it out.
Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2004, 4:13am

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I thought this movie was pretty good, considering the fact that I really don't know how to do 3D stuff yet. (I'm working at it however)
The explosions toward the screen were cool.
The planet below was okay. One thing you could try is using some of the planet plugins. There are some pretty cool ones. Overall the movie is very good.

Also, where did you get that music?

Shadowhawk cool
Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2004, 4:15am

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shadowhawk wrote:


Also, where did you get that music?
He did a search on Kazaa for Hans Zimmer, and there is one on there called Toomanynotes, that's the one.
Posted: Sun, 15th Feb 2004, 5:24am

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the music is from the soundtrack of the movie "The Rock." it is one of the best soundtracks of all time (in my opinion).