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AlamDV2 in the future

Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:20pm

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Once AlamDV3 is released, will 2 still be available and if it is will the price go down? (for those of us who cant afford $90 regardless of how comparitivly low it is) Im crossing my fingers !! mad
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:22pm

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When ADV 2 came out, CSB disreguarded all support and everything from AlamDV 1. I expect them to do the same. 90 bucks isnt alot for software like this. It would be a bad move to lower the price on 2. People who have adv2 will get a free upgrade to adv 3.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:29pm

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well some people that really dont care about movies or dont have a lot of money, will see $90 bucks ( I know its comparitavly cheap but is still hard on the wallet) and say forget it. However they may see $50 or $60 and say "ok" while those with money and are serious will get the $90 version and then for $20 or $30 more the AlamDV2 user can upgrade to 3 (thus equalling the origianal price) I think that will widen the range of customers (and make it more avordable) its just an idea.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:36pm

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Many people buy it already, and more people wouldnt get it if it was 50... People who dont care about movies dont care about effects, becaus ethey just dont care. Lowering the price=bad idea
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:44pm

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Yeah, okay, $90 is not hard to get at all. When it gets warm, find a few neighbors that you can mow the lawn for. At $10 a pop (depending on how large the yard is), it would only take you a month or so to save up the money. And by the way you are suggesting $90 is a lot, I'm sure you don't buy much with your money anyway.

Or you can always ask your parents for an allowance by doing household chores. Or you could babysit. Or (if you do this) stop buying candy and pop from the machines at school. There are tons of ways that you could make $90 by the time version 3 comes out.
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:45pm

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more price options = more customers

anyone else agree?
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:47pm

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ask your parents for lunch money, then pocket it twisted wink

When you turn 14, you can work and save enough money for a few alamdvs in one month. Im turning 14 in June, some of my friends already got jobs..
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 10:49pm

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Or you could get money the old-fashioned way. Steal it? Yup. lol. that's how they used to do it back in the day...not sure which day i'm talking about - but um...LOOK OVER THERE --->
Posted: Tue, 10th Feb 2004, 11:19pm

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I'm not sure anyone, save you, would buy version 2 once 3 is out. 3 will be so much better, and very few people would want to buy ver 2 for $30 dollars less. Also, I imagine that CSB will integrate the existing plugins into version 3, and wouldn't want to have the version 2 plugins hanging around taking up space. I could be wrong about this, though.
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 12:39am

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Brettsta- Im 17 and have car payments, some school costs and a crappy job (getting older dosnt mean richer) and I guess I can wait untill Im in better condition financially but that'll be a long while (year at least) sad
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 12:41am

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Frozenpede wrote:

Brettsta- Im 17 and have car payments
Frozenpede- Im 13 and have parents wink
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 12:49am

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haha biggrin
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 1:04am

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Lloyd66 wrote:

I'm not sure anyone, save you, would buy version 2 once 3 is out. 3 will be so much better, and very few people would want to buy ver 2 for $30 dollars less. Also, I imagine that CSB will integrate the existing plugins into version 3, and wouldn't want to have the version 2 plugins hanging around taking up space. I could be wrong about this, though.
Ok since you've said that then we agree that ADV2 and ADV3 wont compete but instead it means more cash from cheap skates like me biggrin I dont see why they cant leave ADV2 available for like a month after ADV3 comes out (thats if they think its too risky to leave it out permanantly)
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 1:18am

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Hmm...I really don't know, that was just my assumption. But if you have a job, I would think that it would take no time to save up $90. No, I don't have a job, but I'm using simple math.

If you work 10 hours a week at minimum wage (about $5 an hour), you would get $50 a week. Take away $15 for taxes (I'm not sure if that's right), and you get $35 a week. Surely you could take some of that out to save up over time, or work more hours to get the money.

Sorry if I'm coming across as insulting, but it seems to me that if you have a job, it would not take long to earn $90.
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 2:14am

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The fact that you have a job and are seventeen and are paid crappy wages and have car payments and school costs.... I am exactly like you.

I am 17. I have a minimum wage job, pay huge amounts for my car (look at my signature to see what it is.. yes, that is my car down there) in gas money and taxes. I am also paying college application fees and housing deposits up the wazoo. Let's see... I also feed myself half the time, pay for my own clothes and movie tickets, as well as anything else I really need. I also pay my parents for my internet usage.

Guess what... I bought AlamDV2 and Chromanator. You can too.


If ALL else fails, ask for it for Christmas/Kwanzaa/Chanukah/Birthday/Thanksgiving/Arbor Day/Flag Day/Valentine's Day/whatever. It's relatively easy.
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 3:03am

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I remember the good old days when the $ was worth more then the £ and alamDV only cost about $40 smile

ah, the good old days.
Posted: Wed, 11th Feb 2004, 10:19pm

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Yea, I think I bought AlamDV2 for about $70. Anyways about the job thing, that's the way to do it. I think the best option for Frozenpede would be to save up. It's really not that hard. I've been working at $12/hour for a few years now, but only at about 20 hours/week. That's about $200/week after taxes. I've managed to pay cell phone bills, buy a $400 sword, $300 iPod, $3,000 total home-built computer, $300 TV, $200 GameCube, $600 in GameCube games, over several thousand in PC programs, $80 for both LOTR Extended Edition DVDs, about $300 in DVDs... and that's about all I can remember. That was all in the last year and I still managed to buy AlamDV2 at $70 and Chromanator at $90. $160 seems like pocket change next to the other stuff I bought.

How much do you spend on games (if you play games, which I assume you do), both PC and/or console? How much do you spend on unnecessary items such the LOTR Nazgul sword I bought? heh heh. Anyways my point is, as well as everybody else's, that it's very easy to buy AlamDV2.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 6:29pm

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Im sure that others have considerd buying this but did not because they have other things to spend $90 on. They just arnt here to speak up, (note that so far I only see goldmembers saying anything) more money is more money so why cant they offer AlamDV2 at a lower price? you can make a lot more money from maybe 5 people buying ADV2 to shutting it away from everyone (50x 5 is a lot more then 50x0)
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 6:52pm

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Why dont u tell Adobe to make Premiere Pro for less money than 699 then. I mean, Im sure more people would buy it, right? Tell apple to make final cut for 500, not 1000 bucks.

Its the same deal, its just not a reasonable thing to do.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 7:11pm

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There's one primary reason why we don't offer AlamDV for a cheaper price: we can't afford to. The price is as low as we can make it. We could put it lower, but we wouldn't last long as a company. razz

Also, making movies is inherently an expensive exercise. If you can't afford £49.99 for a program (and the new programs will be really good value for money - we could justifiably sell them for much more if we wanted to), then filmmaking is going to prove difficult in general, seeing as a camera will cost several hundred pounds, as will a decent editing program, let alone the computer itself.

Once AlamDV3 is out, nobody will want AlamDV2 anyway! smile
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 7:32pm

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you can make a lot more money from maybe 5 people buying ADV2 to shutting it away from everyone (50x 5 is a lot more then 50x0)
$50x5 = $250, but $90x3 = $270. Sell less at a higher price still equals higher profits. What's your point? And I'm sure if you ask Ferrari to lower their price of the Enzo from about $650,000 to say $325,000, I'm sure a lot more people would buy it. Just as Brettsta pointed out, that won't work so I suggest you stop complaining and take what's given to you. As said in the film Lock Stock n' Two Smokin' Barrels, "The opportunity was there. In my experience it's best to take that opportunity, if it's there." You should in fact be thankful CSB doesn't charge upwards of $200+ for their great software, so as the young aspiring filmmakers and/or hobbyists can have more fun and creativity with their cameras. Would you rather buy a Ferrari Enzo at $1,300,000 or at $650,000? Would you rather buy AlamDV2 at $200 or at $90?

Frozenpede, I'm sorry that we might come off in an offensive manner but we have to get our point across and as do you.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 10:33pm

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thank you Tarn I've been waiting for an answer like that, and I except it. Serdar my point was that rather then not selling at all that they should sell ($90 wont be an option once the program dosnt exist anyway) but again Tarn has given me an answer I can use and once again I except it.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 10:42pm

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Not much different from what Brettsta and I were saying, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 10:44pm

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Serdar3500 wrote:

Not much different from what Brettsta and I were saying, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
I concur!
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 10:47pm

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You concur...about what?
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 10:50pm

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I had to say it wink



I agree that me and Serdar said a similir answer..
Posted: Thu, 12th Feb 2004, 11:30pm

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Brettsta wrote:

Serdar3500 wrote:

Not much different from what Brettsta and I were saying, but whatever floats your boat I guess.
I concur!
yes but your both goldmembers and have already spent your money so your arguments wernt very convincing. Ive been waiting for either someone who did not own the product (like myself), or someone who had a part in the buisness (like Tarn) the goldmembers almost had to take the positions that you all have, whereas people like myself (who have not commited financialy) or people like Tarn (who can stand to make money off people like me biggrin )