Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:12pm
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I'm trying to make a website for my small company (Commonwealth Media Productions). What should this site have on it? I want people to know about the company, so they will be more comfortable doing business with us. because, ultimately, i want their money, and one way of accomplishing that is to impress them. i want the site to have just what they want to see, plus more. the current site is www.cmproductions.vze.com
what should i do to improve this site?
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:20pm
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you should probably have a Forum or at least a guest book, so that you can actually communicate with people who stumble across your site (that way you can get to know them.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:23pm
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i have a forum on my site already.
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:28pm
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it says that the site is underconstruction so that we cant access it, but Im assuming that you have video's and stuff on it right?
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:36pm
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ahhh crap. i geocities. that site means that i went over my 'allocated data transfer.'
i dont have any videos, i only have a few images. i link to my FXhome video sites, so people visiting my site can download my movies, plus they get to visit FXhome and see other good work.
here is my forum:http://jaycoolyea.proboards27.com/
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:46pm
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Wait... you own a .com and you're using geocities to host ur site?
Have u just made http://www.cmproductions.vze.com/
to redirect to geocities, or does it have it's own space and bandwidth? if it does, i strongly (for a start) recommend using that and not geocities...
Also if u use the space on ur .com, u can make a proper php forum like this one...
a business should not use geocities to host it's site...
Posted: Tue, 17th Feb 2004, 11:57pm
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Firstly get some proper hosting. No one is going to be impressed by a site on geocities. Also you are not going to be able to do any snazzy server side stuff with them.
Secondly it needs to look professional so if you have an actual company then get a proper web design company to create it rather than bodging something together yourself. For most companies things like guestbooks and forums are useless. When they are appropriate you need to go the full distance and do something like FXHome to create a community. Inactive forums or guestbooks like the ones many of the fxhome noobs have put on their sites just show how little people are interested in their sites as well as standing out as a gimmick.
If you are making the site yourself with no budget as I suspect you are then to make it professional you need to keep it simple and read up on dtp/user interfaces as this applies just as well to websites. Avoid gimmicks and avoid taking everyone elses work and linking or encorporating it. People are only interested in sites with some useful content.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 12:16am
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i'm in the process of making a new site in frontpage. where is the best place to host this site for free?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 12:18am
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1) proper sites cost money
2) using frontpage is prolly not the best way to make a professional looking website
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 12:38am
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Yeah, if you're going to have a true business, pay for a site. This shouldn't be difficult to get around anyway, if you're making money. I've heard www.hostony.com
EDIT: Ahh, I looked at your site. For some reason, it doesn't really look professional to me at all. Like how you mention you are a "professional" company, and are looking into buying lights. Yes, the whole site layout could use a revamp. On a side note, CMP is a company that publishes video tutorial books and digital video magazines, so I wouldn't use that title too often.
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Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 12:44am
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if frontpage isnt a good program for web design, what is?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 1:20am
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I have to say, I'd not hire you on the basis of you site. Your site graphics are blocky and poor and you haven't even proofed the opening blurb - "ot" for "got", for instance. Also, if I were you I wouldn't llnk prospective customers to the fxhome site as anyone reading your "How can I get an easy cheap program to do x, y and z" posts are NOT going to be filled with a bursting confidence for your abilities.
I used to use the editor that comes with Netscape (it's late and I can't remember what it's called offhand), but I get nice results these days using Imageready and Dreamweaver. I put a bit more effort intoi the front end and then I use a template (pretty much) for any other pages. The site's at www.batteredsuitcase.co.uk
If you want your site to look good and you;'re not prepared to pay someone else to do it then you're going to have to get your hands dirty, I'm afraid.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 2:42am
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i havent really put effort into producing a page yet, i wanted to get some feedback on content first. this site was made on the fly. i dislike this site, thats why im redoing it.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 2:44am
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jaycoolyea wrote:if frontpage isnt a good program for web design, what is?
Id have to say Dreamweaver Mx from macromedia check out -www.macromedia.com
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 2:57am
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thanks for the suggestion slick, i'll take a look. +1
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 3:19am
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jaycoolyea wrote:if frontpage isnt a good program for web design, what is?
After you read The complete guide to HTML.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 3:26am
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HTML is good to know.
Dreamweaver is the way to go though.
I know both!!
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 3:28am
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i know HTML, i've taken a few classes on it in the past. the problem is, i do not have the time it takes to write a full fledged website in HTML code. if my schedule does free up, i'll definitely consider writing it in HTML.
right now im looking for a decent WYSIWYG to get the job done.
by the way: if you've read any previous posts by me, you know that i lack spare change for purchasing software and such. i have frontpage. supposedly that is not near good enough for the task. is there a better WYSIWYG out there for free?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 3:51am
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It is completely possible to do a nice webpage with Frontpage. However, you will not be able to get the nice interactive animations and such, that you can create with Flash, or Dreamweaver. If you already own Frontpage, then i suggest using that. Granted there are better programs, but you already bought this one, and it isn't like its worthless. I suggest learning to use Frontpage to its absolute max potential. Iam sure that you can make a pretty decent web page.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 4:01am
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I definitely agree with Kid about forums. In fact you are essentially a design and contract service company, so I don't really see the need for a forum at all. Your business does not require a community.
What it does require is that you show your work in the best and most professional manner. Even if you can't afford to have somoene professionally design a site for you, take the time to visit as many sites as possible that deal with media services....web design sites, video production, audio production ,advertising media etc. See how they design their sites to be attractive and attention getting.
Do some free work for some local companies and then get their permission to post the work as demos on your site. You'll need their permission because they will own what you do.
And, like it or not, either learn Flash or find a friend that can do some Flash work for you. As you visit other media sites, you will find that most of them incorporte Flash in some manner (including fxhome).
Last, although I prefer and use Dreamweaver MX, Frontpage is a very good tool and may suffice for most of the needs of a site that won't need a lot of scripting or database support, like yours. Its not so much the tool, but how you use it. You can design great looking sites with Frontpage...just get some great looking site colors, tasteful and professional graphics and some Flash and you can do wonders.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 4:10am
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You can make a decent webpage in any of them. The problem with WYSIWYG editors is that they are restrictive and often make bad html which is full of unnecesary stuff and usually does not work well in all the common browsers. Frontpage is guilty of this perhaps more than most and also has propriatary stuff which will not work on a regular web server.
You seem to want everything for nothing. You don't want to pay for a site or anyone to make it. You don't want to buy any software. You don't want to take the time to learn html or any website creation skills. It isn't magically going to appear, if you want a good site then you will have to put some effort in.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 5:04am
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If this is supposed to be a "company" site......
whya re the graphics so pixelated?? if they are supposed to be like that.....then all i ahve to say is "Terrible idea".
And is it just me..or is the writing at the top the Matrix Font????? (not good if it is....)
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 7:32am
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Yes, the matrix font is no good at all if it's supposed to be professional.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 3:49pm
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If you want I can make you a pro. site for REAL cheap. If you want to see what I can do my site is http://www.km4design.com
PM me, IM me, or email me if you are interested.
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Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 5:14pm
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hehe the infamous flying toilet roll site
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 5:26pm
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I would get a site done by wirypocketlint i just had mine done from him and he dose good prices for fxhomers. Go with him
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 5:37pm
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I still don't see the toilet roll, but you know you love the site
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:08pm
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i made this possible layout for my site. the content will be in the middle.
please let me know what you think.http://www.hostultra.com/~jaycoolyea/
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:11pm
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very basic not graphical enough!
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:12pm
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where should i add graphics on the borders?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:22pm
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You need a custom design my friend contact me on msn for some tips email@example.com
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:24pm
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Frontpage is fine. I did this site with it recently www.lucibel.co.uk/dufms.html
Not the most complex layout or anything but that's because I planned it that way. It's easy to do something to the standard of FXHome with it, you just need to use Photoshop to create buttons and logos. I created all the graphics on that site with Microsoft Paint because I wanted a nice and simple look. Obviously you're gioing to want to create a more corporate looking one but that's really easy to do in Frontpage
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Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:28pm
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Mellifluous wrote:Frontpage is fine. I did this site with it recently www.lucibel.co.uk/dufms
Why is the text on that site so big? It doesn't fit on my screen.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:36pm
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It's only about 14 point on my screen...do you mean it's bigger than that, or runs off the page...? I did test the site on several PCs, including XP and Win 2000, with different resolutions etc. Would you mind sending me a screen cap in an email ( firstname.lastname@example.org
), I'd really appreciate it
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:49pm
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Ive started a website but i dont have a host yet. Im looking for a good host but i dont have a credit card or anything yet so..im using dreamweaver and Flash MX 2004. I will link it soon but for now im gonna give you the link to er-no's site.www.er-no.com
its a good site boys. check it out! join the forums if you can too!
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:50pm
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Well according to your source it is big big which makes it 18pt. It is bigger than your title logo text.
Make sure you don't have your browser text size set on small or smallest because the default is medium which gives you 12pt for standard text.
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 6:52pm
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elementcinema wrote:I will link it soon but for now im gonna give you the link to er-no's site.
Why do you keep linking to er-no's site and how is this at all relevent to this thread?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 7:12pm
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I did have the text setting on medium...I dunno
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 7:19pm
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well seeing how everyone else was posting their sites as examples, why not post er-no's? i think he did a good job. so why give me a -1? if i get a -1 then so should everyone else who posted a link to their website as examples. its only fair
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 7:21pm
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Mellifluous wrote:that better? I did have the text setting on medium...I dunno
ah yes that size is much more suitable
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 9:45pm
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does anyone know how to get the effect used on this site using frontpage? i'm refering to the navigational buttons.http://www.vidicom-tv.com/index.php
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 11:46pm
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What? Do you mean rollovers?
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 11:48pm
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here is what i have so far. i looked at it in netscape, and the text is slightly off. is it the same in IE?http://www.hostultra.com/~jaycoolyea/
Posted: Wed, 18th Feb 2004, 11:51pm
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Actually, I have a question for anyone who know Frontpage...force points!
I want to know how to set the page so that if the mouse goes over a certain image (eg a blue button) it changes to a red button, as it's highlighted. I just cannot for the life of me find out how to do that or find any useful help in the documentation.
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 12:08am
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what you are talking about are hover buttons. they are under insert-> web component-> dynamic effects. you can choose the original color, and the color of the button when the mouse is over it.
what i need is a way to set the page up where, when the mouse is over an image, it will change to a different image. if you look at my site you will see the nav buttons. i made a seperate set of them with RED squares next to them. how do i get the image to change to the one with the red squartes when the mouse is over it?
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 12:10am
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Jaycoolyea: I dont see any rollovers on your site or if there are they aren't working. That flying thing when you go to it is a right pain as well because it just gets in the way when you want to get on and look at the site. That would be one of those gimmicky things I suggested you avoid.
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 6:14pm
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here is the site as of today.
still working on it. let me know what you thinkwww.hostultra.com/~jaycoolyea/index.htm
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 6:34pm
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hey its elementcinema, forgot to login but whatever..your site isnt that bad man..just needs more color. maybe change your font too and fix that pictures in the middle of the pages that pushes your text over to the side. but other than that its getting better man! keep up the good work!
Posted: Thu, 19th Feb 2004, 8:08pm
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I'll confess - I'm very lazy and never bothered with rollovers until I started using imageready, which basically does the work for me.
There are tons of books out there on HTML coding! If you can't be bothered to buy and read one then just do what I do - download a page with an effect on it, then look at the raw HTML, then tinker. You can learn a lot by tinkering and seeing what happens, as whole laboratories of fluit flies with extra gentials and their heads on backwards will attest.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 2:56am
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the 2 sites i've been working on are near completion! please give me some final input on them before i release them to the public eye.
i still have a few email addresses and spaces to fill, but that should be done in the next day or so.www.cmproductions.vze.comwww.shaftedcinema.vze.com
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 2:58am
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can someone fade the edges of the center logo on the cmproductions site? i will give you 10 force points.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 3:15am
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EDIT: I noticed on your Shafted Cinema site it says that Bill Brown's music is royalty free, actually it's for personal use only (just a heads up tip there.)
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 4:01am
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that's awesome, but could you try and keep the text in?
EDIT: nevermind, i did it myself.
thanks alot !
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Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 4:03am
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Something I would suggest is you increase the resolution on your graphics. The blocky "enlarged" look isn't very pleasing to the eye.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 4:13am
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is it possible to do a fade edge to TRANSPARENT gif?
if not, could you make a fade to white one, the fade to black looks kinda screwy.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 4:45am
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Are you not going to try and make the website yourself jay?
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 5:19am
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i made the entire thing, i'm just having trouble with this one part.
if someone knows of a tutorial for photoshop on this, i'd be glad to do it myself, i jut cant figure out how.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 9:12pm
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How's this?CMP Logo Gif
If you post a link to the original jpeg that you had up (with no transparency), then I can remake this gif with that, instead of the logo I made with black. Just let me know.
Posted: Fri, 20th Feb 2004, 9:19pm
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You don't know how to use the gradient tool in Photoshop?
Jay, the best way to learn is to try and figure it out for yourself rather than to constantly run to other people to do it for you.
Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2004, 6:47am
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this is the only thing i've ever asked anyone to post for me. i'm new to photoshop, so give me a break.
Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2004, 10:17am
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Look, its not like its Actions (which I've never needed to use and so never bothered to learn thus proving me A Filthy Hypocrite), or Transparency Layers. Its a button on the left hand toolbar. Just render your text, lock transparency (one of the little icons in the Layers window), then use the gradient tool by dragging and pulling - you should be able to figure out the settings.
Posted: Sat, 21st Feb 2004, 5:14pm
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You can't do partial transparency in gifs so there is no point in converting it to gif. In fact it will simply make the file much bigger since jpeg is more suitable for big pictures.
I suggest you make it a jpeg and have it fading to whatever colour the background is.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Feb 2004, 5:22am
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the BG is an image. look at the site, it fades to white, but still looks bad. i just want it to look presentable.www.cmproductions.vze.com
Posted: Sun, 22nd Feb 2004, 5:40am
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Not sure if anyone's mentioned this (only read the first page) but the best combination for webdesign I've found is Photoshop+Notepad+Some FTP Program. That's all you need - the rest is just design knowledge and some skill and practice. if ur still looking for hosting, i have this site for more info: www.scope-hosting.com
btw - i looked at your services - seems VERY cheap. only $10 for each edited minute? Either you don't put too much effort into editing or you're really underpricing. Sometimes it can take hours to edit one minute properly (even for special events videos).
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 9:21pm
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what would be reasonable pricing?
Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2004, 8:20am
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jaycoolyea wrote:what would be reasonable pricing?
For your services, $0.00
Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2004, 9:18pm
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thank you unnamed guest. i appreciate your input you f*cking jackass.
does anyone know of reasonable pricing for video shooting/editing services?