You are viewing an archive of the old fxhome.com forums. The community has since moved to hitfilm.com.

Operation Room Check

Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 10:46am

Post 1 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Sometimes you do things the easy way; sometimes the only way; and other times the hardway. Enter Team DormCon. In an effort to stem the contraban level in a certain dormatory, a team of specialists has been called together to solve the problem.

Operation Room Check is an Action/Comedy film. This is only the trailor for the movie. The full movie will come out March 6 at the school it was shot for, then possibly here. This whole project is for a Senior Talent Show, hence its being centered around a school dorm. Enjoy!
More Info
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 12:01pm

Post 2 of 36

Andreas

Force: 4943 | Joined: 9th Apr 2002 | Posts: 2657

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User MuzzlePlug User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

SuperUser

Nice! Its hard to rate this trailer, it looks nice, all the fotage looks extremly cool! But some of the editing and titels need some work!
That green title on a green background.. lose it! wink
and some stuff looked like you have tried to key something that you shouldn't key.. it looked wierd.. but overall, everything looks promesing! Your lightning looks awazing! Looking forward to the movie! (one thing.. change the titel! Operation Room Check!?)
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 2:19pm

Post 3 of 36

ssjaaron

Force: 1545 | Joined: 11th Jan 2003 | Posts: 1115

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

loved it. what more could i say. loved the editing loved the music, loved the sounds.
peace out
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 7:18pm

Post 4 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Heres just a few things about this trailer.

1.) It (the trailer) is not completely finished. We still need to add in the rest of what the movie is about, since this trailer only represents the first half of the film. It was made early on during the filming. Beings that we're Seniors, all filming and editing is wrapped around our attempts to graduate. biggrin

2.) Even though this was an early rough cut trailer, we posted it to see what kind of public reaction we would get from our efforts.

Now on the technical side.

Almost all of the keying was done deliberatly save for the shot of the soldier lifting his goggles against the white wall. That shot was more of an after thought. We now have a 12 by 35 foot blue screen to use, so the next and final trailer will be much more visually pleasing.

Thanks for your comments.

PS In case you didn't get it, we ain't done! twisted
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 8:24pm

Post 5 of 36

Aculag

Force: 8365 | Joined: 21st Jun 2002 | Posts: 8581

EffectsLab Lite User VideoWrap User FXhome Movie Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Hmm... It kinda seemed by the way it looked, that you spent all your time making sure it looked good, and spent no time at all making sure other parts were good. Like the acting. From the short glimpse we get to see, the acting is not so good. Also, what's with this Spiderman trailer ripoff? I know it's not actually from the Spiderman trailer, but the V.O. is basically the same. Oh well. At least it LOOKS good.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 10:43pm

Post 6 of 36

Gibs

Force: 1663 | Joined: 21st May 2002 | Posts: 1611

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

I liked this a lot. The editing and effects will quickly paced and well done. But the acting did seem a little flat. Also, it doesn't make sense to me, that a group of top secret special forces is attacking a dorm room for "contraband". But I'll reserve my judgement on that for the final film.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Feb 2004, 10:50pm

Post 7 of 36

Waser

Force: 4731 | Joined: 7th Sep 2003 | Posts: 3111

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 2 Pro User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

SuperUser

im not really into army movies, but the camera and camera work was excellent! what were you using?
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 7:35am

Post 8 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Some answers to some questions

(one thing.. change the titel! Operation Room Check!?)
lol, i can safely guarentee this won't happen cool There actually is a reason for the name. Its what the movie is about wink

Like the acting. From the short glimpse we get to see, the acting is not so good. Also, what's with this Spiderman trailer ripoff? I know it's not actually from the Spiderman trailer, but the V.O. is basically the same.
LOL! We're not actors by any stretch of the imagination smile Sadly yes, the one voice over used were the words from the Spiderman trailer. I assure you in the final release you will not hear that. As was said earlier, this tailer was cut together during the early stages of filming, and in this case we needed the voice over to connect it together.

Also, it doesn't make sense to me, that a group of top secret special forces is attacking a dorm room for "contraband".
This is story critical, so i'll try and explain as best as i can. First off, the team is not attacking anyone. (This idea is incorrectly brought out in the trailer) What does have to happen is the team must get into the dorm, check the room, get the confiscated items to the Dean and get out with out ever being seen. Because this is a private school, the content we can show is very restricted, which basically means no guns or violence. So you see the problem we faced in trying to work all this into a feasable yet fun storyline. razz Take this into account when you watch it. The fact they passed this with its center being around the military is amazing.

what were you using?
A Canon GL-1

This entire movie is intended to be a sort of spoof on real Special Ops stories. The movie starts out as any serious one would, but gradually transitions into a comedy about a room check. The whole idea of a Top Secret Team doing a room check for a private school is rediculous, hence the basis for the storyline. A few things may seem confusing, but this is because this movie is being made for a specific audience, namely the student body and student parents.

Thank you again, all of your comments and constructive criticisms are more then welcome.
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 2:00pm

Post 9 of 36

Xcession

Force: 42802 | Joined: 21st Mar 2001 | Posts: 1964

VisionLab User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 3 Pro User Windows User

SuperUser

Was that a remixed version of the raven shield music that i could hear?!
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 8:51pm

Post 10 of 36

Gibs

Force: 1663 | Joined: 21st May 2002 | Posts: 1611

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Yeah, it's the Xbox trailer music from Bill Brown's site.

I can't wait to see the final film. Do you think you'll be able to get it up soon after the release date?
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 10:30pm

Post 11 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Yes, the music is by Bill Brown smile That guy writes the most awesome music, and for the type of movie we're doing, we felt it fit perfectly.

These are the release dates for everything as it stands now:


  • March 4th - Final trailer release (maybe)

  • March 6th - Movie release

  • March 8th - Movie is published to web, along with posters and pictures

  • March 12th - A behind the scenes Making Of Featurette (This depends on whether there is a demand for it or not)

We do however have a slight problem. The server we're currently with is majorly restricting our bandwidth. Its all we could do to get this trailer up and it may be offline in a day or two. If anyone knows of a place that can host large files without bandwidth limitations thats cheap wink we'd love to find out about it.

Thanks again everyone.
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 10:41pm

Post 12 of 36

goober99

Force: 340 | Joined: 23rd Dec 2002 | Posts: 106

Windows User

Gold Member

I loved the trailer. Can't wait to see the movie. I thought all the titles were great! I especially liked the effect with the eye and then you could see the next scene through the eye.

I would recommend cutting out some of the army-like marching into the room footage out. It seemed like it kept coming up. And I kept thinking, haven't I seen this footage already?
Posted: Tue, 24th Feb 2004, 10:42pm

Post 13 of 36

Gibs

Force: 1663 | Joined: 21st May 2002 | Posts: 1611

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=12526

For free hosts.


www.hostony.com

Only $10 a month but a LOT of space.
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 5:47pm

Post 14 of 36

fabfav

Force: 0 | Joined: 25th Feb 2004 | Posts: 1

Member

Gentlemen, you've outdone yourselves. I am very impressed with the top quality detail given to the scenes, the editing and the special effects. You deserve to win top dog at the talent show competition.
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 10:30pm

Post 15 of 36

hunley

Force: 0 | Joined: 25th Feb 2004 | Posts: 1

Member

This is a great movie from what I've seen good luck seniors and I hope to see it on this site after it is shown on March 6th at the Talent show. I'm sure you have put alot of time into this and hope you get it done in time.B Once again GOOD LUCK GENTLEMEN biggrin
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 10:33pm

Post 16 of 36

Mellifluous

Force: 5604 | Joined: 6th Oct 2002 | Posts: 3782

EffectsLab Pro User Windows User

Gold Member

Are you last 2 guys the same person? Pleeeeaaaase sleep

Edit, trailer was ok, but some of the compositing was a bit jagged, such as the dark shot of trees & sky, & the zoom into the eye. Also, did you composite the flag? If so, you don't need to, surely a dissolve would look better? (though could be compression looking bad). Couldn't hear the dialogue by the young guy before the older guy says "Well yes, but we're not dealing with an ordinary room".

Last edited Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 10:45pm; edited 1 times in total.

Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 10:34pm

Post 17 of 36

Brettsta

Force: 3385 | Joined: 15th Nov 2003 | Posts: 2114

VisionLab User FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

It seems to be nfsbuff himself because they joined today and made great comments.
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 11:02pm

Post 18 of 36

Gibs

Force: 1663 | Joined: 21st May 2002 | Posts: 1611

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Or it could have been his friends, a lot of times people will have their friends join when they make a movie. Which isn't entirely bad, if they come out and admit it. confused
Posted: Wed, 25th Feb 2004, 11:05pm

Post 19 of 36

Brettsta

Force: 3385 | Joined: 15th Nov 2003 | Posts: 2114

VisionLab User FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

yeah.. Its good an d all except when they act like they dont no eachother and rant about how amazing what they just saw was when they joined within like the hour.
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 6:40am

Post 20 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Lets clear this up before it goes to far.

Brettsta wrote:

Or it could have been his friends, a lot of times people will have their friends join when they make a movie. Which isn't entirely bad, if they come out and admit it.
First off, i have no idea who hunley or fabfav are. I appreciate thier comments, as i do all of your guys'. As for just joining,
It seems to be nfsbuff himself because they joined today and made great comments.

I myself joined over a year ago. Second, I posted this trailer here to get constructive criticism, not loads of praise. Any praise that does come is an added bonus, which is much appreciated, but not the main reason for my being here. As an amature photographer, i and the people i work with are always striving to get better, and the best way for that is get suggestions from people such as yourselves. So i would never praise my own work, since theres always room for improvement. Besides, i think it defeats the purpose for being here to praise your own work. wink

Thanks again everyone for watching and commenting.
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 12:47pm

Post 21 of 36

callum_slade

Force: 279 | Joined: 22nd Jun 2002 | Posts: 150

EffectsLab Lite User Windows User

Gold Member

super dooper wickidy waaaa waaa boom shank


In other words bloody good i cant wait to see the final movie!
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 7:43pm

Post 22 of 36

jessy

Force: 650 | Joined: 8th Jun 2003 | Posts: 384

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

I thought it was pretty good, the keying wasnt the best though. And was this a comedy cuz when i watched it it didnt seem like it but when i looked at the poster i though it was a comedy because of the posses with the bottles and stuff.
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 9:59pm

Post 23 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Thanks jessy. Yes, the keying wasn't very good for a couple of reasons. First, I haven't picked up Chromanator (yet). Second, the shot of the flag for example isn't the best, but at the time this trailer was put together we were lacking clips to choose from, so it was put in as filler. It is somewhat significant however, since that is the flag of the school we're doing this for.

As for the shot that goes through the soldiers eye, that was done as an after thought, as we were putting away our equipment, so it didn't come out the best. It was only after that we realized we were needing that shot. This all, however, will be fixed in the final release of the trailer.

Yes, this is a comedy that starts out seriously. Its kind of a paradoy on Special Ops movies. Unfortunately the trailer only brings out the serious angle. Which isn't bad, but something that needs to be worked on.

Thanks for all your comments.
Posted: Thu, 26th Feb 2004, 10:28pm

Post 24 of 36

USAMarty

Force: 1177 | Joined: 25th Feb 2004 | Posts: 4

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

I don't know if it was just me, but it seems as if the audio on the vocals needs improved. Everything else is great.

Shotgun Mic's and some wireless don't cost too much but can make a world of difference.
Posted: Fri, 27th Feb 2004, 6:43am

Post 25 of 36

cyborg

Force: 410 | Joined: 1st Jan 2002 | Posts: 24

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker

Gold Member

Beautiful job. Lighting was nice. I also use Bill Brown music too. He is an awesome composer. Nice effects! Hook us up with the movie—great potential. How did you do the title? Look very professional. What program did you do the title in?
Posted: Fri, 27th Feb 2004, 8:36pm

Post 26 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Thanks cyborg. We made the entire title in vegas video only. It was created using the standard plugins as well as the PluginPac. The PluginPac found here can really add some dynamics to your movie.
Posted: Sat, 28th Feb 2004, 5:48am

Post 27 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Sorry to anyone who might try to download this trailer, but our bandwidth just got exceeded for the month. crazy
Posted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2004, 3:37am

Post 28 of 36

jetaimaster

Force: 200 | Joined: 1st Feb 2004 | Posts: 107

EffectsLab Lite User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User

Gold Member

nice visuals
what a sweet trailer
Posted: Tue, 2nd Mar 2004, 4:11pm

Post 29 of 36

fatdu4

Force: 220 | Joined: 19th Jan 2004 | Posts: 21

EffectsLab Lite User

Gold Member

Great job, i really liked the titling.
Posted: Sun, 7th Mar 2004, 9:47pm

Post 30 of 36

DigiSm89

Force: 815 | Joined: 2nd Jun 2002 | Posts: 1898

Windows User

Member

I really liked the music. Great job! Just one question, I've always been wondering this but when I was looking at your title, I was thinking what's that effect called when the edges of text shines light that fades off from one side to the other. Is there a way to do this in Premiere?
Posted: Mon, 8th Mar 2004, 2:57am

Post 31 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

DigiSm89, I don't konw if you can do it in premier or not. I'm a Vegas Video man myself, but the plugin in Vegas is simply called Light Rays.
Posted: Mon, 8th Mar 2004, 3:54am

Post 32 of 36

DigiSm89

Force: 815 | Joined: 2nd Jun 2002 | Posts: 1898

Windows User

Member

I did find some plugin called photometric rays. It's working great except that you can see the point at which the light is emitted from so it looks a little shabby. I'll just experiment with it some more. Thanks!
Posted: Wed, 10th Mar 2004, 12:57pm

Post 33 of 36

zo0

Force: 200 | Joined: 14th Sep 2003 | Posts: 1

EffectsLab Lite User MacOS User

Gold Member

i like the style you have created!
any chance you could tell me what compression you used cos the quality is really good for its file size. Thanx

zo0
Posted: Thu, 11th Mar 2004, 7:13am

Post 34 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Thanks zo0. For compression, we used the standard Sorenson Video 3 Quicktime codec, with the bitrate set to 150 KB/s, and a keyframe every 24 frames. The audio is QDesign Music 2, set to 44,100 Hz 16-Bit Stereo. Hope this helps.
Posted: Mon, 15th Mar 2004, 6:43pm

Post 35 of 36

nfsbuff

Force: 2060 | Joined: 27th Jan 2003 | Posts: 175

CompositeLab Pro User EffectsLab Pro User VideoWrap User PhotoKey 5 User FXhome Movie Maker Windows User MacOS User

Gold Member

Sorry for any inconvienence, but our bandwidth has been exceeded (again) for the month. We are in the process of getting a new host, but this may not be until the end of the month. Again, sorry for the inconviencene.
Posted: Mon, 15th Mar 2004, 9:33pm

Post 36 of 36

Gibs

Force: 1663 | Joined: 21st May 2002 | Posts: 1611

CompositeLab Pro User FXhome Movie Maker FXpreset Maker MacOS User

Gold Member

Have you checked out the list of free sites for hosting? They might have more bandwidth, and you could always have some mirrors for the videos.

I would like to see the final film as soon as possible. smile