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Magic Bullet Suite Alternative...

Posted: Sun, 21st Mar 2004, 11:38pm

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Are there any cheaper, yet comperable alternatives to the Magic Bullet Suite?? A specific program or plug-in for After Effects would be great thanks!
Posted: Sun, 21st Mar 2004, 11:42pm

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If you have after effects you can do it just by using the color balance effect, and if you want the glow, use the "Glow" effect. Just play around with the filters you already have and you can get a nice effect.
Posted: Sun, 21st Mar 2004, 11:42pm

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Do you mean the 24 fps bit? or the digital grading?

For digital grading, fxhome is working on a program that does digital grading easily. It's not out yet, but it will be around 90 US dollars when it is.
Posted: Sun, 21st Mar 2004, 11:53pm

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filmfx BIGfx does it..its pretty cheap too..look it up on google. Cinelook does it too i think..
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:28am

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Or if you're patient, you can save a lot of money by buying Digigrade when it comes out.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:29am

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Can anyone tell me anymore about digigrade? How much, when it comes out, will it be as easy to use as Magic Bullet etc... thanks!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:32am

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Digigrade will be very easy to use and itll be around 80-90 US Dollars. There is no date to when it comes out yet.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:32am

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Will probably be easier than magic bullet, will render a lot faster, and it will prolly comes out in a year, it will cost 49.99 pounds.

EDIT: Darn Brettsta beat me to it smile

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Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:37am

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I don't know how DigiGrade will be any easier to use than Magic Bullet. Magic Bullet has presets, too.

For deinterlacing, use Virtual Dub, it's a free download for windows.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:43am

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Do you think DigiGrade will ahve those kick ass presets like Magic Bullet has?? haha i wish i would wake up one morning and someone would have bought me a copy of magic bullet haha...any takers?
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:44am

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BigFX FilmFX has some nice presets....




CSB, if Digigrade doesn't have any presets, I would add some, it would absolutely rock, like AlamDV would have a Plug-ins section, Chromanator a Backgrounds section, and Digigrade a preset section!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:46am

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digigrade presets... A great idea! Also a filter section.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:47am

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You could have like some "cold feel" or "warm feel" or "Matrix Green tint" or "reddish black" etc. etc.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:48am

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Not to mention a glow filter.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:48am

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Digigrade will probably be easier to use than Magic Bullet. The presets in Magic Bullet are quite easy, but to actually master the individual controls to get the exact look you are after takes some time. Digigrade will offer very similar functionality, but with an easier to use interface. I make this assumption based on the other csb-digital products available. As nobody has actually seen DigiGrade (since it isn't finished), we will have to wait to see how easy to use it actually will be.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 2:52am

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Brettsta

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How can I go about beta testing Digigrade and AlamDV 3 cool

Now that would be cool!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 3:30am

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for sure!! i wouldnt mind doing it either. heh..the presets and filter ideas sound awesome! prolly the most genius thing ive heard all week!!
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 3:53am

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DigiGrade sounds great and all, but I fear I will have no need for it. Alas, I can do pretty good color correcting already in Commotion Pro. smile sad
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 4:02am

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Magic bullet is by far the best filmlook simulator, but its does render really slow. Plus, my college professor gave me an extra copy that the school ordered,(yes, im lucky my prof' is cool) and it wouldnt work with my AE 5.5, so i can only use the color presets, not the actual 24p simu. cinelook isnt really fast or good, and filmfx just has good filters, it doesnt really make it look like film at all.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 4:47am

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but what about the 24p? that's what I'm really interested in. I played with the Panasonic DVX100 this weekend and the results are awesome. I don't care if you call it a gimick or not. We plug it up to watch dailies and it looked like a professional DVD.

how can I take a Canon GL1 or XL1s that I have access to and take the 30 fps frame mode they have (would you call it 30p? i think they're progessive) and produce 24p without using Magic Bullet?
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 7:11am

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I didnt know the gl2 or the xl1 had true 30p. Using after effects, you could combine 3:2 pulldown and some color corrections to make it similar, but the only real way i know of is the bullet or a pro filmlook company.
Posted: Mon, 22nd Mar 2004, 9:30pm

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The GL/XL cams don't shoot true progressive scan video. If you're looking for a 24P solution, or a 24P motion sig., fire up Yahoo! or Google and search for DVFilm.

Or, if you have After Effects and want to try yourself:
http://www.dvinfo.net/articles/filmlook/broadway1.php
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 5:58am

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OneDanShow

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Thanks for the article! I'll try it out tomorrow.

What is the difference between true progressive and what the GL1/XL1s do? Their manuals say that they shoot 30 whole frames per second.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 12:24pm

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Does Twixtor do it? I seem to remember it saying so on the website.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 9:32pm

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anonymous

I believe the GL/XL cams refresh fields by 25% (vs. 50% for full "interlaced" video). Also, the manual claims the resolution for Frame Mode is 1.5x that of Normal Mode. This is also untrue, I'll see if I can dig the blurb up, but the way the Pixel Shift handles greens actually causes resolution to drop 25%.