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Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 6:46pm

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When you're sleeping, you can't hear them talk. When you're sleeping, they won't hurt you. But beware... if you wake up, it'll all be different...


Heh. Well, I shot this today again because I'm home alone and had nothing to do. So I wanted to play around a bit with Chromanator and do some sounddesign tests. What you see here is the result. smile


PS: increase your speakers volume for this one! wink


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Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 6:58pm

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Very nice soundeffects there, I turned up really high at the headphones and let all the lights out to get into the feeling!
A nice grade at the shots, although I think it was a bit to much glow at some places. once again the sound effects was really good, your acting is much better then in "the tests". I would have liked to see a bit more at the end, just a couple of seconds more of the ghost.

A nice one day project, can't compain!
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 7:05pm

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That was great! The flow of the movie was really good and the sound effects, editing, and everything was good too. How did you do that lightning? Good job, but why were there such big widescreen bars? Your face at the end is great heh.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 7:06pm

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Heh, thanks Andi!

The sounddesign was really funny to make. I spent more time on that then on the visuals actually. (well, thanks to chromy, it all goes quite fast) wink
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 7:42pm

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That was great Sollthar! Oh, the suspense! Oh the horror! Once again Marco is flexing his filmmaking muscle. wink

Very nice. 5 stars! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 8:00pm

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Wow that was cool!
It amazes me that this is the sort of quality you produce in one day simply because you're bored.
The sound set the mood perfectly and that moment when the reflection starts to change was great. I have to disagree with Andreas, having the ghost for only a small amount of time was the right thing to do. It shocks the viewer and then leaves them wondering.

Rawree.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 8:02pm

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It wouldve looked funny if the end was prolonged..
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:13pm

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Sollthar....you never cease to amaze me in your films. that had a story, great music, great sounds, awsome color, awsome camera shots. it looked like a real movie, i felt the suspense, it creapted me out. over all perfect nothing i would change.
by the way what are you editing your films with now? because i really liked the color corection and titles.
your amazing, your going big, I promise.
Definitly a 5 if any one thinks other wise is pitty them
peace out
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Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:28pm

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ssjaaron wrote:

Sollthar....you cease to amaze me in your films.
Do you mean he never ceases to amaze you or are you all Sollthared out?
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Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:40pm

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Hey, thanks a lot for the replies guys!


Yeah, I thought it would be better to "show" the ghost only in the last shot and for a very short time.
I actually wanted to have more subtle things going on, like a painting changing or so. But then it was just something to keep me entertained for the afternoon and I had to end the shoot pretty quickly cause me parents came home. :I


I'm still editing with Premiere, and thats with what I did the colors. I used Chromanator to darken or brighten certain parts of the frame and do the lightnings.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:47pm

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You can color correct with Premiere?!?! How?

Heh, I've had it for a while, yet still don't know even half of its effects.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:48pm

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Yeah, at least with premieree pro you can. I just have no clue what to do smile.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:53pm

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Yeah, of course you can.

There's a videofilter called "color balance". It's not as detailed as the one from photoshop, but does the trick. If not, there's the "color channels" where you can edit in a bit more detail. And also the "color balance HLS" wich'll help you too.

I work with Premiere 6.5, not Pro. pro can do even more as I heard.
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 10:58pm

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Ah, ok cool thanks!
Posted: Tue, 23rd Mar 2004, 11:09pm

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You did all that color correcting with only the color balance filter! Wow, I really liked it, and it's neat because I'm doing something similar for a project I'm working on. I really liked the sound, angles, lighting, and just the whole feel of the movie.

I have two questions. What music did you use for the last scene? And, about the sound design, did you manipulate the sounds at all in post? I can tell you used some foley effects and such, and it sounds really good. Sometimes, however, my sounds come out too loud and sound a bit fake, but I don't know how to fix it, or what filters to apply to the audio.

4 stars from me, great job with everything. smile
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 1:06am

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this movie is very professional looking. I enjoyed it. I was just wondering did you get the idea for this movie from Homesick, because they are a little similiar? 4 from me cool
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 1:41am

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Hmm... My download is currently at 19.0mb of 11.6 and counting...

Watched what I had so far, and it ended with you in the bathroom. I take it that this is not the end...
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 3:04am

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I was damn impressed with the editing and the lighting effects/filters.

Simple brilliant Sollthar in technical aspects, yet I wanted a more 'action packed' ending wink
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 3:25am

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aculag you have the whole thing - its him the the bathroom and thingyw ith the mirror then credits

Sollthar - looks great - Love the look the lighting gives - some great shots in the bathroom b4 the mirror thing


-MAGIC
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 3:30am

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I saw no credits. It ends basically right after the light turns on in the bathroom.

Still though, very good. The sound design is fantastic.

What's the music? It sounds very familiar...
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 3:54am

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He goes into the bathroom washes his hands, puts his hands on his face and the guy in the mirror does something cool and scary. It ends by saying made with chromanator.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 5:17am

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how many people helped with this piece. just you and a camera guy?

anyway, amazing as always...

jb
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 6:36am

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I thought it was great. I really liked the subtle tilts throughout. The ending was so cool.

If I'm not mistaken, the music is from "Aliens".
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 9:09am

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Yeah, it ends with "made with Chromanator"... Hm, odd. Try downloading it again Aculag.


The music is a mixture of 12 different tracks edited together. One if from Aliens, yeah.

I did manipulate the sounds to make them sound right, yeah. Except for the thunders, I recorded them myself.

jfbiscardi:
And I was alone. There was no cameraguy. I filmed myself with a tripod and added cameramovement later on.


Whats "Homesick", movieguy?
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 11:15am

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Really well done.
Lighting was good, how did you do the lightning effect ?
Editing was good and camera angles.

The only thing I could say was it was over acted ( I know it's hard being on your own acting against nothing ) so i won't mention that.

top marks
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 2:47pm

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I HATE DiVX. Soundtrack is full of pops and at then end the screen goes white so I don't see all that is happening - a similar situation to that of Aculag.

I still got to see most of it though. Good camera work considering you shot yourself yourself! biggrin


Lighting was done by increasing brightness for a few frames I believe.

I thought the acting was okay - unlike b4.

Pretty neat little project. A 4 from me.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 2:50pm

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Hm, very odd you two having problems. Seems to work fine on other peoples computers... :I


Heh, yeah. The lighting was just done by increasing contrast. But it does the trick. smile
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 2:59pm

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I ALWAYS have problems with DiVX. I HATE this compression. Use mpeg-4! wink

DiVX is always buggy.

Contrast variations definitely do the trick - especially with good sound effects - was just mentionning for those who wondered.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 4:22pm

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DivX only causes problems in the hands of the fool.

Its no more 'buggy' than mp4 or practically any other codec...the problem however, is that a new version of divx seems to be released every nanosecond, so no two computers ever have the same version of the decoder! Moverover people who compress their movies in DivX rarely seem to use the same codec as the ones anyone else has either razz

I'd agree divX can be a nightmare, but if you're patient enough to ensure that you've got the right version, and (conversely) aware enough to compress your movies in a common version, you're ok. In this case, i managed to watch it fine so i guess i'm just in luck!

Regarding the movie, i've already said my bit on #fxhome, but i enjoyed the camera work - specifically the 'getting used to the light' effect having turned on the bathroom light.
I'm also always impressed by credits which aren't just some poorly antialiased text on a black background with possibly using equally lame slide-on, slide-off effect etc.

I did notice some weirdness going on at the point where i'm guessing you start to do the composit...it looked like your hands (in the mirror) were kinda blurred and moving, but then perhaps that was deliberate. I was also a little disappointed by the scary face you pulled razz
Up to that point, i genuinely felt tension, so for the 'ghost' to just be you going "RAAAR" was a bit of an anticlimax - i was hoping for some kinda morph or makeup or something. I can't quite say what i was looking for - just not that biggrin
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 4:26pm

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JohnCarter wrote:

I HATE DiVX. Soundtrack is full of pops and at then end the screen goes white so I don't see all that is happening
Divx doesn't have anything at all to do with sound.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 5:02pm

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Sollthar wrote:

The lighting was just done by increasing contrast. But it does the trick. smile
Did you use Chromanators Super Contrast?
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 5:06pm

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Yeah, that I used, it's not that complicated.
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Ahh great sollthar. Friggin scary, plus i am all alone at my house and your movie just makes me shiver. Maybe there are supernatural things. I hope not.
Anyway, what i am trying to say is that your work is brilliant and the music made it even scarier.

Well done
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Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 5:54pm

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That was AWESOME!

Thats the sort of thing i like watching, there was a lot of eerieness in that i thought, and the end shot was really well done i applaude you a really do. MAKE MORE pwetty pwease.

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Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 6:02pm

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Kid wrote:

JohnCarter wrote:

I HATE DiVX. Soundtrack is full of pops and at then end the screen goes white so I don't see all that is happening
Divx doesn't have anything at all to do with sound.
Maybe not kid, but every time I watch something compressed in DiVX, the sound comes off crappy.

And Xcession,I may be a fool but I have update regularly my DiVX and such - it still is crappy and the Sollthar thing won't play until the end.

I never have such problems with mp4 or any other codecs. Even the shitty Microsoft ones.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 7:57pm

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well done, greate acting!!! and what a refreshing wide screen.
I have only one remark, at time index 02:10 you need to cut the shot. You compleetly walk out of screen and feels not good when you are already into screen on the next shot. But thats only a slight improvement you can make.

Is there going to be more of this story? Like to see whats going to be next.
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 11:10pm

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Solithar, this was most impressive! And to find out you did this solo makes it even more impressive. Your use of color grading, subtle visual FX and sound design was very well played.

The piece invoked all that it needed to. It was errie, suspenseful, and at points made my skin crawl with anticipation. It would have been nice to see a little Creature make-up work on the reflection gone bad. However it was still suprising and scary.

The camera work was fantastic. Alot of creative pans, angles and field changes. Like when the Protaganist is scanning the area for what made the noise. Focusing in on area then scaning to an odd object (like the pig) helped to convey the Unwhitting victims grogginess and confusion with the situation.
I like the use of contrast in the bathroom. When the light was flicked on, you made it seem like our eyes had to adjust along with the Protaganist.

All and all very well rounded piece. Can't wait for more. cool
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Great work Sollthar, but the thing that troubles me is that you are still holding your hands over your face when the mirror creature thing comes out. You sorta freeze... some action there would be nice. Other than that, great!
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 11:24pm

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Sollthar, did you mimic what you were doing for that last face part, or did you stay in the same spot and cut to it when the ghost started taking his hands off his face?

(that came out more confusing then i meant)
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LOL you calling Sollthar a mirror creature thing? biggrin
Posted: Wed, 24th Mar 2004, 11:34pm

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Heh, cool it works to set some scary atmosphere! I hope to do a feature in that style someday. Always had a liking for this kind of movie. smile

Great to see you like the film!


I know I could have done some makeup effects. But honestly as I filmed this just as an amusement I really didn't plan much of it, therefore didn't do more difficult things. :I


Brettsta:
Yeah, I did it that way. I just needed to stand in the same spot. It cuts the moment I lower my hands.
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pooky wrote:

LOL you calling Sollthar a mirror creature thing? biggrin
Yeah, I have nothing better to do with my time than make up things like that... And why did you phrase that as a question?
Posted: Thu, 25th Mar 2004, 12:15am

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wow, even when you throw something together that qucik, the high production values are apparent (sic?). this film reminds me allot of Home Sick, which I loved, so I as well loved this film. I didn't think it was as good as some of NCC's other films, but as you said this was almost a test born from boredom. But a great test and little movie. good job Solthar!
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This is a great movie. Good job on creating the right "mood", and for the overall look of the video. It's a great reminder that it doesn't take a bunch of props, makeup, or fast paced action to produce an excellent movie.

Nice buildup of the suspense...watching it, you just know that something is about to happen in the bathroom scene. I know you said you just put it together quickly but I'd like to see more of this story sometime...you should make a sequel.

Nice work. I gave it a 5.
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I really liked the colour of the film, the lightning effects, & the doppelganger effect was very well done. Tension was built up well, but I wasn't gripped by the ending - it could have been scarier. You should explore this idea further, maybe have the doppelganger step out of the mirror & kill the real him.
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Solthar, could you post a video or picture of your origional lighting conditions? I'm quite interested as to how you started.

Cheers,
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Sollthar my good man! I cant expect anything short of professional when it comes from you.

It has been far too long since you've submitted anything. This place was kinda gettin' slow, if ya know what i mean (crappy movies, shhhh!)


I bought these klipsh/THX speakers with an more than impressive sub woofer, and i tell ya the sound with your movie was AMAZING.

Sound is just an important aspect of a film as the picture, and you captured both elements in a very impressive short movie.

Needless to say, the end was very cool.

Much congrats. From your old friend.

ILYKDP
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Did I hear some of the Alien soundtrack in there? Perhaps from the opening track?

Enjoyed Ghost. I felt tense watching it. I really liked the ending.
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TAP2 wrote:

Solthar, could you post a video or picture of your origional lighting conditions? I'm quite interested as to how you started.

Cheers,
Yeah that would be great!
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Oh, sorry! Somehow missed the new replies.. crazy



Thanks a lot Ilykp! I'm very glad you liked it!
I got a dolby surround system too with a good subwoofer. Makes it all sound really creepy. Cool for soundediting. smile

How you doing anyways? Don't see you around often anymore... sad



Yeah, I'll post a little makingof video. Good idea. Will see to get something together.
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JohnCarter wrote:

Kid wrote:

JohnCarter wrote:

I HATE DiVX. Soundtrack is full of pops and at then end the screen goes white so I don't see all that is happening
Divx doesn't have anything at all to do with sound.
Maybe not kid, but every time I watch something compressed in DiVX, the sound comes off crappy.

And Xcession,I may be a fool but I have update regularly my DiVX and such - it still is crappy and the Sollthar thing won't play until the end.

I never have such problems with mp4 or any other codecs. Even the shitty Microsoft ones.
Most problems with divx are actually cause by other codecs being naughty. I'm not sure if they brake divx on purpose or its just a convenient coincidence. The most likely suspects are xvid or 3ivx codecs. Have you installed any codec packs rather than just individual codecs?
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I have problems with DIVX on my mac. This is what happens:

I click play, and quicktime in the browser starts playing it normal, while it loads. It gets to be fully loaded and then it turns white. Its still playing and you can hear it and all, but no picture. Its weird, dont know why it does that. It does that on my pc too but when i download it and try opening it with quicktime, (not windows media player). When I donwload it on my mac, it works on quicktime fine though. Maybe its a quicktime thing?
Posted: Fri, 26th Mar 2004, 3:01am

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Hey Solthar,

What camera was used for this movie & how did you do the lightening FX (because I will need some in my upcoming movie)?

Very cool movie BTW.
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If you read up he said how to do the lightning. He increased contrast.
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I’m pressed. NoControl Cinema has done it again. This is simple but affective. I love the camera angles and motion—beautifully subtle. The sound is spectacular! The sound and video are married together—good synchronization! Well done. The ending was awesome. I honestly expected some cheesy guy in a black rob bought from the dollar store, to jump out then you hit me hard at the end. I should have known not to expect that from NoControl Cinema.

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cyborg wrote:

I’m pressed
Heh, Cyborg juice biggrin
Posted: Sat, 27th Mar 2004, 6:48am

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Where can i find the Background music you used in ur video.. its AWSOME
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two words.

FREAKING AWESOME

::nods::

indeed.

~Rob
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What is it with this Ultra-Widescreen thing?

Everyone seems to present their films so that we all need microscopes to see them. I was just wondering why you do that, because even cameras like GL2 don't output footage as wide as that.
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Hey Sollthar long time no speak,

That was awesome that piece, very well done indeed, nice camera work sound and editing, was expecting something cheesy at the end but you made good work of that mirror face (crapped me up) smile

you should do another test now, with all the knowlegde youve absorbed since then im sure another installment will be excellent smile

Keep up the good work biggrin

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TAP2 wrote:

What is it with this Ultra-Widescreen thing?

Widescreen mode to me and no doubt others makes it feels more film authentic, full screen always feels low budget style no matter what i watch

I prefer widescreen on anything anyday!
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wow! like always that was Totally Excellent! The colour grading was cool too!
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Another great production by Lord Sollthar

If this movie doesn't want you to get Chromanator, I don't really know what will!

Logistical questions/comments:
1) How was the lightning effect done in the beginning?

2) Was someone else with you filming, or was this done by yourself? I noticed some dynamic camera movements, but I wasn't sure if that was done by you or the cinematographer. Very subtle, but definitely adds to the mood.

3) Did you encode the audio with 5.1? I played it at work at it sounded really clean & crisp.

4) As other users have requested, I would also like to see what the video looked like before the lighting conditions via Chromanator were utilized.

As always thanks for your great submissions. I will enjoy experimenting with the program at work to see what I can do with it.
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Read up a little. Lightning was done by increasing contrast and the cool camera movements was done with premiere's motion I belive. Thats why its so smooth smile.
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Brettsta:

My apologies, I missed a page worth of threads on this movie and failed to see that post. redface









Lord Sollthar is still a bad@$$
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no need for apologies cool
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I have problems with DIVX on my mac. This is what happens:

I click play, and quicktime in the browser starts playing it normal, while it loads. It gets to be fully loaded and then it turns white. Its still playing and you can hear it and all, but no picture. Its weird, dont know why it does that. It does that on my pc too but when i download it and try opening it with quicktime, (not windows media player). When I donwload it on my mac, it works on quicktime fine though. Maybe its a quicktime thing?
I rarely use Quicktime to try and watch divx content. Quicktime doesn't have the codecs to properly decode divx. Instead, you should download the file (don't let it load in your browser). Then watch divx material using the free VLC player. It's available for all platforms and is great for watching divx content (as well as DVDs from regions other than the one that your computer is set to).

Check it out and download it at http://www.videolan.org/vlc/.

-LoungeFly
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Yes, I agree that 'widescreen' helps a film avoid the amateur style, but if it's that wide.
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How was that widescreen done? Special thing on the camera or in post? At first I thought black bars were added until I saw the movie in a different player than windows media.
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I immediatly recognized that piece of music from either alien or aliens. You should put your own music so you can enter it into festivals beccause it was pretty cool.
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Well, I just cropped the image, there fore it's not 4:3 with black bars - wich wouldn't make sense - but an actual widescreen format.

Why I chose a screen that wide? First of all, because I really like widescreen and wide cinematography. Secondly, because it gives it a really nice feel and thirdly, because then had enough imagine material to use for my digital cameramovements.
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What setup are you using to shoot then?
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my camera (panasonic NVDX110) and a tripod. And I had one 500W spotlight, didn't want to bother installing the others. smile
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I did try to watch this - I downloaded it and the image freezes on the first frame.

You can use the Variations filter in Premiere. It works quite well, actually.
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Ah, I see the logic behind making it that wide if you use digital movement.

Get that 'making of' video up soon biggrin
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Sollthar wrote:

Well, I just cropped the image, there fore it's not 4:3 with black bars - wich wouldn't make sense - but an actual widescreen format.
Hey Sollthar

I liked your short movie. pretty cool. wink

to the widescreen thing. why does it not make sense when you put black bars on? I thought it's practically the same as cropping the image, only you are not with 4:3 format.
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Rating: +1

Adding black bars adds to the filesize or reduces file quality. You may say, but it is just black, it should be easy to encode. This is true but, due to the way the compression works, the edge between the picture and black takes huge amounts of the bandwith that could be used for your picture.

The black bars are totally unnecessary to add anyway because you can always play movies fullscreen and they get automatically added at no expense.

So you should leave it anamorphic or crop it but not add bars.

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Cam

Does your camera look like this? I thought I was the only one who had this camera...it's still pretty good, no? razz

For anyone who has Premiere, I use these plugins to create Widescreen effect. I shoot with wide lens & then apply the 16:9 to 4:3 filter. All it's doing is squashing it which is what I'd have to do anyway I think.

Free aspect plugins
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Mellifluous, is that cam 3 ccd? I remember a small one that looks vaguely like that that was quite cheap. Very cheap even.
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There are quite a few cheap 3ccd cams coming out at the moment but just cos its 3ccd doesnt mean its automatically better quality. The manufacturers have noticed that its something that consumers look for and are adding it to cams as a selling point. Unfortunatly the cams are still let down in other areas.
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Kid wrote:

Adding black bars adds to the filesize or reduces file quality. You may say, but it is just black, it should be easy to encode. This is true but, due to the way the compression works, the edge between the picture and black takes huge amounts of the bandwith that could be used for your picture.

The black bars are totally unnecessary to add anyway because you can always play movies fullscreen and they get automatically added at no expense.

So you should leave it anamorphic or crop it but not add bars.
ok, I see. Thanks for the explanation. Next time I'll try to crop it and see what happens.
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My one is 3ccd, I can say it is very good quality & certainly wasn't cheap 2 years ago when I got it. Well, I don't think £2,500 is cheap...
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There is such thign as a 3ccd cam for 1000 $.... at least soon there will be, thanks to Panasonic.
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yeah I bought a panasonic 3ccd cam last year and they are really cheap, compared to the other ones, at least the last time I checked the prices. And the quality quite good.
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Dumb question alert... how do you crop away the black bars in a 4:3 film in Premiere, or any other software for that matter? I'd like to be able to do that.
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In Premiere I think you'd just go to the "Motion" tool bar & modify the borders of the frame, cutting out the black bars. There may be an export option to do this, can't remember without having Premiere running.

My advice is to actually not shoot with the black bars. They're added easily afterwards.
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Hi there Sollthar,

Really enjoyed your short movie. Very atmospheric! just a couple of questions from a very inquisitive newbie...

Did you use a steadycam for some of the shots (the rotation) or was this done with motion in post?

Did you use any 'film look' techniques or plug-ins to get the really 'smooth feel' that you have?

Was the blur/focus effect in the bathroom as the lights go on done in post with a blur filter?

Where did you get the music from? I am actually a music student myself and i am very interested in composing for film.

Sorry if any of this is off topic. Its my first ever post!!

Cheers

Ed
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hey that was an awesome short. well done. can you tell me how you did the lightning effects. and what about the sounds i really enjoyed that. can you help me out with some ideas thanks
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Hey and thanks for the replies!


To your questions, they have all already been answered if you read a couple of pages. You'll find all the answers there. smile
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Wow, this is an awesome video, and to think you made it in just one day.....

You said that one was from Aliens, what were some of the other audio tracks you used in the video? If you said it already and I missed it, then I apologize now for the stupid question. But great video regardless!!!
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Mellifluous wrote:

In Premiere I think you'd just go to the "Motion" tool bar & modify the borders of the frame, cutting out the black bars. There may be an export option to do this, can't remember without having Premiere running.

My advice is to actually not shoot with the black bars. They're added easily afterwards.
hmm... ok, I know I did crop some of my videos in the past when I had Premiere 6.0, but it was like 2 years ago. Since then I used to add black bars in post.

By the motion tool you mean actually the one you control the motion of the picture like zooming etc.? I can't find the crop option anywhere.

The problem is, when I want to add motion to my movies, the black bars I added post will move too, which is bad. I am sure, if you crop your picture the "auto-black-bars" won't move.

Just need to know the exact position of the crop option in premiere 6.5. thanks.
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Aculag posted a while back a zip file with various cropping photosohop files. Just drag them onto a track above your main video track.

http://www.geocities.com/aculag/Zip/Letterboxbars.zip
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Sollthar, this is one little clip where you have completely replaced substance with style. Although I do realize that you were bored and just wanted to test out something in chromanator and some sound design, was it really necessary to make a 3 minute video of you just walking? You should have kept this under a minute and it would have been more effective.

And what's the reasoning behind the way-too-wide aspect? I've never seen an aspect that wide, i doubt it's actually used anywhere. It's much too wide to the point that it's distracting and you can't get a clear mental-wrap of the picture. The coloring is nice, I like the blue-ish green hues. The sound was pretty good as well, but I don't see why so many people are getting this worked up over it. The effect itself was off and I spotted the transition the first time through.
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Lloyd66 wrote:

Aculag posted a while back a zip file with various cropping photosohop files. Just drag them onto a track above your main video track.

http://www.geocities.com/aculag/Zip/Letterboxbars.zip
thanks for the link. but then aren't those letterboxes for NTSC resolutions? I got PAL here.
And one more thing, those are just black bars, they don't crop the picture, or am I wrong here again?
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Lloyd66 wrote:

Aculag posted a while back a zip file with various cropping photosohop files. Just drag them onto a track above your main video track.

http://www.geocities.com/aculag/Zip/Letterboxbars.zip
I dragged those to my footage but they render with a white line underneath them for some reasoln.
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You should have kept this under a minute and it would have been more effective
I couldn't disagree more. smile
It was completely necessary to have that much time for that kind of scene, otherwise it would NOT have worked, wich it obviously has for most except you and some random guy. biggrin
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I agree with Cypher as far as the widescreen effect. I know you did it so you could do camera movements, but it was way too wide for my liking.

Spanish: Sorry those don't work, you can probably make some yourself, though. And yes, they do crop the picture, altough they don't actually change the aspect ratio.

Brettsta: Make some yourself, it shouldn't be too hard. smile
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Spanish: Sorry those don't work, you can probably make some yourself, though. And yes, they do crop the picture, altough they don't actually change the aspect ratio.
oh, it's ok, they work fine for me and I use them now. it's much better and I have more control over the content now.
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I couldn't disagree more. smile
It was completely necessary to have that much time for that kind of scene, otherwise it would NOT have worked, wich it obviously has for most except you and some random guy. biggrin
It didn't work for me wink Just bored me.
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I looked at this a long time ago but never got a chance to rite about it..

Realy great job! It had a realy great feel to it and ya the witescreen makes it way cooler.I would like to know whut setings you use with " color balance".Iv woched it 10 times now and its still great, keep them come'in
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the settings were quite simple blaine. I just increased all blue and decreased all other colors...
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What program did you use to mix all the music? Did you just do it inside Premiere or did you use some other program?
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I just did it inside Premiere, yeah. Premiere is by far sufficient for audio editing.
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nice athmosphere, nice effects, good actor, good note 5 points!
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Hey, I finally got to see the whole thing. Good job. I liked it. The shots in the sink were.... OHSONICE!
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What a great movie! It scared me!

Looks so real/professional!
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It's fascinating how creative an individual can be with minimal tools. The "look" of your work here rivals a lot professional films.
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What kind of SFX did you use on the Ghost short? Did you buy a sfx cd, or did you download it free... let me know? Thanks. Enjoyed it.
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How did you get that the camera that widescreen? Mine just has these stupid black bars that appear and make the it seem like its widescreen but its not. Also, how did you do those slow spinning camera shots? They looked so smooth and precise. Awesome stuff. (=
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I think he also just added blackbars (albight too wide and not a real aspect) and applied motion to the footage to give it that, er, well, motion. heh
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no, that aint black bars
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For once, Cypher's right. wink
I just added black bars in photoshop in an aspect ratio I liked, regardless of if it's real or not. Then I cropped the picture for the internet. Thats how the wide look was done.
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how did make that by yourself as you said you were "home alone" when the camera was clearly moving when you were walking. You must have had a cameraman right?
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The art of premiere's motion!
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Sollthar wrote:

For once, Cypher's right. wink
But I'm always right...even when I'm wrong I'm right. That's just how it works wink
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Awesome Work!!! Nice camera work Great lighting Great Acting
and Awesome effects and greenscreening I give 5/5
i enjoyed this movie as i enjoyed your other productions
(Turicon) as your characters put a smile to my face so any movie made by Marco Von Moos is you beat i'll be watching it
You have great talent and we hope you keep making more movies
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I know I come and go all the time but again this NCC people are really good that was hella cool I was trying to guess when the part was gonna happen, that was cool the part where u turned on the water looked very movie like still using the canon xl1? awesome work btw
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I must say I love the compositing
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Goes to show you what can be done with some basic ideas and good direction. Nicely done.
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This is the gratest short film I have ever seen in my live. Looks so professional! Congratulations!

Greetings from Poland!
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Where did you get the sound effects? 'm in the middle of writting a script for a Horror/Thriller and the topic is ghosts so I am interested in these SFX. Thanks if ye can help.
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As I wrote before, I recorded most of them myself.
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It's a very good movie and the effects are great too. wink
Good job.
I gave it a 5 wink
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awesome! VERY awesome! congrats smile
i gave it a 5
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Top class short film. Visuals, sound, editing, mini-story, all top notch. biggrin
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Can premiere make camera movement off a still shot? Amazing!
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Klut wrote:

Can premiere make camera movement off a still shot? Amazing!
I'm pretty sure Chromonator can do that as well........ wink
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Wait.... Yes, think it can, that could be a greate tutorial.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 12:46pm

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Rating: +1

I 'spect it already is:
http://fxhome.com/support/tutorials/view.php?i=26
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 12:49pm

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Klut

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Dude... that's shaking, but I gues it's very much the same... Thank you anyway. 1+
Posted: Thu, 18th Nov 2004, 2:15am

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Grundgeguy

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How did you do that mirror shot? That was pretty Bad A!
Posted: Thu, 18th Nov 2004, 9:43am

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Sollthar

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Thanks!

I just did the same movement twice and then faded the two. If you look very closely, you'll see where it changes.
Posted: Wed, 26th Jan 2005, 12:49am

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redorete

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Fantastic.
SImple n smart.
The sound is very well balanced.
wink great job
Posted: Tue, 22nd Mar 2005, 11:36am

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Psychedelic

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Everything very personal, would it like you to do some questions?
As it is that you make that effect with the cronomator. You have some tuturial.

Everythinh cool folks. Can you answer me some questions? How can you do this effect with chronomator. Can you explain me?? Do you have some Tutorial.

with regards from Psychedelic
Posted: Fri, 25th Mar 2005, 9:10am

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Wicked4u2c

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Psychedelic wrote:

Everything very personal, would it like you to do some questions?
As it is that you make that effect with the cronomator. You have some tuturial.

Everythinh cool folks. Can you answer me some questions? How can you do this effect with chronomator. Can you explain me?? Do you have some Tutorial.

with regards from Psychedelic
+2 Agreed with his post, a tutorial would be awesome from your favorite fans! biggrin
Posted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2005, 2:50am

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robosays21

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kinda dumb question, but how did you make that blue tint look so effective?
Posted: Fri, 24th Jun 2005, 7:57pm

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bignik

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What can I say , except this has to be one of my favorites , the sfx and the audio was fantastic , I would even go as far this 3 min clip could have been included in any Hollywood Blockbuster . Im speechless , I never used chromonater , but I think you have just sold me on it for sure.

Great Movie biggrin
Posted: Fri, 29th Jul 2005, 6:13pm

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NightHawk2o1

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He he I dont like scary things alot and i didnt know what to thing...but in that 3 mins.. There was MAJOR suspens for me...in the end it wasnt as scary as i thought it would be but the build up if it was really good... good work i give it a 5
Posted: Sat, 30th Jul 2005, 9:35pm

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It gets a 5 from me. Great short, keep up the good work.
Posted: Tue, 2nd Aug 2005, 8:36pm

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gUnit

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mad damn i couldnt watch it, the picture didnt show up but i could hear the audio...it sounds pretty creepy good job
Posted: Thu, 4th Aug 2005, 10:26pm

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gUnit wrote:

mad damn i couldnt watch it, the picture didnt show up but i could hear the audio...it sounds pretty creepy good job
That is most likely because you don't have the divx codec needed to view it.

You can find it here.
Posted: Mon, 15th Aug 2005, 5:35am

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miker

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Awesome short-horror. The end made my heart skip. Great job. 5 from me.

-miker
Posted: Wed, 12th Oct 2005, 12:17am

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Patriot2011

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The end part was really cool! Good short film. biggrin
Posted: Thu, 2nd Feb 2006, 2:24am

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starfan

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bow chicka bow wow. graet effects and another great film from sollthar. 5/5 from me smile keep making awsome movies
Posted: Sat, 22nd Apr 2006, 10:43pm

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Dragon1974

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Very scary!! Great sound and light working !!!!
Please make a hole film, kind of haunted house or something !!!!
I loved this short one !!!!!!

Gooooood job !!!!!!!!!

A 5 from me !!!
Posted: Sat, 22nd Apr 2006, 11:07pm

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destron

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pretty cool. I mean, some guy gets up on a stormy night, everything's dark... you know something's going to happen. great use of a mirror, BTW. cool
Posted: Fri, 5th May 2006, 7:23pm

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Now that's a scary movie!


Great work



I loved it!

5 stars!
Posted: Sat, 6th May 2006, 1:43pm

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JoergensenMBS

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First tme i heard that breathing noice i tought Darth Vader! biggrin
Posted: Sun, 25th Jun 2006, 7:35am

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mookie

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i saw this a few months ago, and boy was i impressed. great work! you built up the suspense extremely well throughout the whole film and the end was one of the best effects i have seen in a long time.
well done
Posted: Mon, 17th Jul 2006, 10:07pm

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MC Turtl3n3ck

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Incredible work, fantastic editing, professional stuff right here, if i could take back my vote of 4, id easily give it a five, probably one of the best films on here. Great job.
Posted: Thu, 14th Sep 2006, 3:45am

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U2ForNow

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This one is awesome. I can't stop watching it. Did you have the music written for this movie?
Posted: Thu, 14th Sep 2006, 11:44am

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I'm pretty sure Robin Hoffmann (another FXhome member, username "Robin") made the music for this movie... although I could be wrong.. smile
Posted: Mon, 18th Sep 2006, 12:21pm

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Actually, the score for this was mixed together from archive scores. There's a bit of alien in it, blended with some videogame scores and roalty free samples. As it was just one of the little testy videos. smile
Posted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007, 3:32pm

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blackball

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This film was absolutely gorgeous. I loved the grainy look of the film. I loved the way everything sounded. The acting was great.
You managed to lure me into the astmosphere of the film and render me feeling as though I was the subject.
Very excellent job.
I cannot wait to purchase VisionLab and the other various softwares I'll need to create my visions. Not to mention the equipment. All-in-all I'm looking at 15k+ in equipment. X__x
But, I believe it'll all be well worth it. Your video helps keep me inspired to ASPIRE towards my goal of film making.
Of course it helps that your film is strikingly simular to what I'm hoping to accomplish and create.
Horror/Thriller/Suspense/Sci-Fi/Action
Those will be my genres. Those will be my playgrounds.
Well, I'm done wasting your time. Great film. Kudos. Au revoir.
Posted: Sun, 4th Feb 2007, 12:58am

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Elderban

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Very good!

The only problem is at the end there's a bit of an FX jump...and I would have done the effect as soon as or right after he covered his face.
Posted: Sun, 11th Feb 2007, 2:14pm

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Ok thats was an amazing little type of horror clip

I was listening to sounds and I got goose bumps then im like wheres the ghost sad ahh And the guy looks in the mirror and I just jumped up
and ran hahah great movie wasnt excepting the end eek
Posted: Mon, 16th Apr 2007, 9:53pm

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neoglitz

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Nice piece of work. The only thing I hate is that is ended. Seemed like a great beginning or trailer to a film.
Posted: Thu, 7th Aug 2008, 10:40am

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IM Productions

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love it biggrin, i want to see more!
Posted: Sun, 15th Aug 2010, 1:33pm

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inuyasha19000

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that was so cool i got goosebumps at the end
nice job dude biggrin