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Volition

Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 11:48am

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A vibrant and twisted story of a slightly rigid guy named Dave who wakes up one morning to find a strange person occupying his breakfast nook. Starring Vonzell Carter (Deviance), Christy Napier (Deviance, Fallen Angel), and introducing Damion Dooros and Adam Rinsky in thier debut roles on fxhome.com - shot in 14 hours (a saturday from 12pm to 2:30am) on Panasonic AG-DX100A. Lighting Designer - Bindi Mehta. Edited in FCP4 and effects done on AlamDV2.

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Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 8:00pm

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This was pretty good. Much better than Deviance in my opinion. Seemed much more thought out and is better executed, and has a more solid plot/acting.

A couple things though... If I found some stranger sitting in my house offering me a drink when I first woke up, I'd be like, "Get the hell out or I'm calling the cops." And then I'd call the cops anyway. I got the feeling that Dave was the kind of person who drinks a lot anyway, so maybe it's natural for him to find strangers in his house some mornings, but I thought that should have been more clear. Maybe have him wake up with an empty bottle in hand and be like, "Oh great." You know? Maybe I'm way off base here (and I get the feeling you'll tell me I am), but that's just what I got from it.

I also stand by my opinion that you guys should really consider sitting down and writing a comedy or drama or what have you that lasts a bit longer than the ones you have shown us before, and that does not involve guns or anything at all.

There's no doubt that you're all talented, that's obvious. And I don't mean to sound like a teacher or something, but if that's what I sound like, deal with it.. But I'd like to see the bounds of your talents stretched. Do something different. Leave the airsofts at home. That's my two cents.

4 stars.
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 9:14pm

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Aculag,

Thanks for the comments - and before it even hit the new release boards too....very flattering. I have a few responses to your comments below.

Aculag wrote:

This was pretty good. Much better than Deviance in my opinion. Seemed much more thought out and is better executed, and has a more solid plot/acting.
Thanks.

Aculag wrote:

A couple things though... If I found some stranger sitting in my house offering me a drink when I first woke up, I'd be like, "Get the hell out or I'm calling the cops." And then I'd call the cops anyway.
Well this film isn't exactly what I would consider realistic, so what you or I would do in that situation is already a lot different than what Dave did. I happen to think what he did jives quite well with the story. In fact I think Dave does this EVERY morning. He looks at the genie without even flinching, which to me suggests a hint of familiarity. Since he drinks himself to sleep every night it feels like a dream to him and he can only remember blurry splotches of things.

Aculag wrote:

I got the feeling that Dave was the kind of person who drinks a lot anyway, so maybe it's natural for him to find strangers in his house some mornings, but I thought that should have been more clear.
Well, I thought the end would clarify that...perhaps I was wrong. Either way, it wasn't so much about why Dave did what he did, just what he did. When I was making this, I didn't think the bulleit genie was even real or tangible. I kinda toyed with the notion that he represents Dave's urge to drink. But I think it's up to the audience to decide for themselves, that's why I didn't make it clear.

Aculag wrote:

Maybe have him wake up with an empty bottle in hand and be like, "Oh great." You know? Maybe I'm way off base here (and I get the feeling you'll tell me I am), but that's just what I got from it.
I saved that part for the end - only it keeps refilling - a surreal kinda occurance.


Aculag wrote:

I also stand by my opinion that you guy, should really consider sitting down and writing a comedy or drama or what have you that lasts a bit longer than the ones you have shown us before, and that does not involve guns or anything at all.
You are entitled to your opinion. I guess what I have to say to that is, I learned a lot, gave some newcomers a chance to see what it's like to be on the set of a film, and I had fun makin this - and so did my cast/crew. I think I'm gonna save the good story stuff for later when I've honed my filmmaking and editing skills more. Also - have you ever made five (5) - 10-15 min movis in like 5 months? I feel like my bones are made of peanut brittle. I'm gonna sleep for like 3 weeks. From then on, expect short 10-15 min movies all summer long. Give me some money. I'll make u a feature. Once I graduate college I'm doing one anyway.


Aculag wrote:

There's no doubt that you're all talented, that's obvious. And I don't mean to sound like a teacher or something, but if that's what I sound like, deal with it.. But I'd like to see the bounds of your talents stretched. Do something different. Leave the airsofts at home. That's my two cents.
Lol. Thanks. Like I said, I'm very limited right now. Time and money are two things which I do not have. I'm attending school full time and still managing to make these short films in the meantime. I did this one for my final project which was only supposed to be 10 minutes.

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4 stars.
Fair enough.

AJ
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 9:24pm

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I really enjoyed this, and now that I get it, I'm giving it a 4.

One thing I don't get about your recent shorts is their titles tough... Deviance, Volition.... heh do they mean something?
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 9:30pm

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I'm not asking for a feature, or anything really long. Or anything that costs a lot of money. If I could make five 10-15 minute movies in five months, I would. And I'd do some short stuff too.

The only thing I'm saying you should do is do something that doesn't involve guns. If you ask me, that requires less money, since you don't have to worry about props like that.

When did I say "do a million dollar feature"? I said "Do something that lasts a bit longer than what you've shown us before, and does not involve guns."

But hey, to each his own, I guess. I just want to see what you can do.


Also, thinking more about it, it does kinda seem like dave is like an alcoholic or something. I guess that's what I said I thought anyway. I just thought maybe it could have been touched on in the beginning too.
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 10:04pm

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Isn't it that the Bullet Genie is his urge to drink, so the 3 wishes and all are hallucinations from when he's drunk? That would make sence.
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 10:15pm

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It would make more sense if they were dreams. You don't hallucinate when you're drunk.
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 10:32pm

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You know that from experience? wink
Posted: Mon, 12th Apr 2004, 11:18pm

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Let's just say.... yes. neutral
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 1:22am

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I wish I had dreams like that when I am drunk... lol.
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 1:38am

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me too
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 8:07am

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Well..

Sorry.. I was really bummed about how HORRIBLE your movie looked. That was shot with a DVX-100? Man.. I thought those cameras were capable of much better pictures than that. It just.. hurt me to see a short shot with a DVX look so... bad. Tell me it wasn't shot in 24p advanced mode, please?

The cinematography was fine. A bit jittery but you guys probably didn't have a stabilizer. Nice angles and the movement back and forth etc,. was clever and you kept the scene framed well.

But the high point - you had good sound. Especially that Bullet Genie fella. Not only was he miked/dubbed well. But man, the guy could act. Top notch acting for him - and his dialogue was well written too "Tear it up David, tear it up!" nice touch. The foley effects when he slammed the table were nice. If it wasn't foley then like I said, you guys had good sound.
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 1:26pm

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Aculag

Ur not the first person to tell me that I should lose the guns - sorry if u thought I seemed annoyed at the statement, but I do see your point...however Fingerman didn't have guns! smile (actually it did, but it was never fired - dang). The guns are currently in a safe place with CX3 right now for the filming of his soon to be aired television series X3i - which can be viewed on OSUTV in Columbus.

In this case though, I think 15 min or less is good festival length and since my most recent ones are going into the MAFIA film festival in two weeks, I wanted to keep them under that time limit so we'll have time to show a bunch of other shorts made by first or second timers. I have many other films that vary in length from a half hour down to 30 seconds. Thanks for wanting to see what I can do...that is a very good compliment.

AJ
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 1:31pm

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Anonymous wrote:

Well..

Sorry.. I was really bummed about how HORRIBLE your movie looked.
The cinematography was fine.
Eh?
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 3:05pm

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Guest.. i hope u realize that the movie u saw was very very compressed... its not the full file... That camera produces stuff nothing short of film, its crazy.
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 3:56pm

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It's futile to respond! We will never understand your motives for creativity so we will always find a way to dislike your films!! Soon we will lead an uprising and our gigantic population of guests across the globe will take over the threads and bash all films!!! MUAHAHHAHAH.twisted

--Super Power Commandery sorta Guest who is just kidding.
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 4:03pm

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Hi Ajjax wink
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 4:18pm

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Hi er-no tard
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 5:32pm

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Acculag wrote:

You don't hallucinate when you're drunk
I take it you've never drunk absinthe then wink
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 9:15pm

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On the contrary! Absinthe won't make you hallucinate unless you drink like an entire bottle at once. And by that time you'd be poisoned by alcohol, so it wouldn't matter. Trust me. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either lying, or they've taken something else to make them hallucinate.
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 9:50pm

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The bottom line is...this film is neither realistic, nor possible. So who cares if one can or can't hallucinate on alcohol? Who says Dave's even hallucinating? What's going on? Where am I? I have a headache...where's that Bulleit bottle......

AJ
Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 10:08pm

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Aculag - sorry, I meant 'proper' absinthe.

The stuff with thujone in it. The stuff you buy at a shop in the UK or US won't, as thujone (the psychotropic contained in wormwood) is banned - but the slightly less than legal stuff from Spain that has proper wormwood in it most certainly will!

Trust me wink

Cheers,
Arktic.

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Posted: Tue, 13th Apr 2004, 10:11pm

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Arktic wrote:

Acculag - sorry, I meant 'proper' absinthe.

The stuff with thujone in it. The stuff you buy at a shop in the UK or US won't, as thujone (the psychotropic contained in wormwood) is banned - but the slightly less than legal stuff from Spain that has proper wormwood in it most certainly will!

Trust me wink

Cheers,
Arktic.
Alright, we'll see about this...
Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2004, 12:34am

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Ajjax44, this is by far my favorite movie of yours. Im so happy to finally see a film from you, that is purposely bizzare. I loved this film. Granted, it could have been improved, but I think that overall it was really good, and very entertaining. Weird for the sake of weird always interests me, and if you make more films like this, I will definetly watch them. Thank you! Keep up the good work!
Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2004, 6:00am

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Tarn,

Heh, fair enough. Cinematography is one of those wonderful words that can mean a different things to different people. I meant by the cinematography being fine, that his angles, camera movement and the like looked good. The subjects were framed well, he had some nice angles (at the end looking up at the fan, with a slight camera rotation, nice pull back & reveal when the woman put a gun to his head, good sequence of camera angles when the ninjas were attacking) etc,. That was well done and fairly consistent throughout the short. If you have another word for this please let me know.

But the image quality. Sucked. I've seen used toilet paper with better cinematic presence. Sorry CX3 I'm not buying compression as the reason for the shoddy look - that was a 48meg MP4. Sure it might have dropped the quality a bit, but start with (can we swear on these forums?) and you end with (another swear word). The DVX100 is a GOD amongst DV cameras and is capable of so much more than that. If you'd said you shot this on your $300 BestBuy minicam I would have had no truck with it. But what you did was just wrong, making a movie that looks so bad with a DVX. Stop trying to defend that poor imagery. You're like the French at the Maginot Line; admit what you did was shameful and resolve to never do it again. Learn how to use that camera son, not make excuses.

Apologies for posting as a guest - especially when criticizing, that's just bad form. I'll get around to making an account and post under my real name.
Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2004, 6:07am

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You thought the quality was bad? I didn't think it was bad at all. In fact, I remember thinking at many points during the film how much it actually resembled proffesional work. There were places where it glitched up on me. Like the picture would fragment for just a second. But I assumed, and still do, that was part of the compression. Angles were great, and I loved the cinematography.
Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2004, 3:36pm

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Thanks for the comments and compliments Hello. I just felt like doing a movie that was exactly as you say "wierd for the sake of being wierd."

We had a script for the thing but I felt that it would only hinder the weirdness and wonderful sponteneity that we could accomplish with no script at all - so I threw the original script away and we started with nothing but the three wishes concept. That's why it says written by everyone in the credits. I agree with you that it looks pretty professional at points, especially when considering the fact that we lit the entire thing artificially to make it appear like morning (as I said in the description of the film we shot this in 14 hours, taking us through all hours of the daylight).

I particularly pride on the title shot with Dave walking down the stairs - the lighting was completely set up by my genius lighting designer, Bindi Mehta - she also did the lighting for Fallen Angel. The full quality version looks better than some of the high def channels I get at home when I played it on our 53 inch HDTV.
Posted: Wed, 14th Apr 2004, 4:04pm

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You are a weird one... Mr. Guest... What would you have suggested he do better? He turned on 24p mode, white balanced it and shot... what'd he miss? The lighting was tight as well. I really dont understand what you are saying because it doesnt make any sense.

Sorry CX3 I'm not buying compression as the reason for the shoddy look
Ha, you make it seem like he purposely made the image quality look bad. Also, i had nothing to do w/ this production, so stop trying to drag me in it. I was just on the set. (o, i helped with sound for a few shots, i 4got)

Learn how to use that camera son, not make excuses.
I'm not your son and im not making excuses, I'm telling u its compressed, cuz i have the full version on my comp and like i said.. it looks nothing short of film. Believe what u want "Guest". Until u make "another" account name, I wont be responding to u anymore.

Paaayce
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To me, as far as the filmmaking community of this site goes, there are many good filmmakers. But I believe that there are maybe three or four studios that stand out above the rest of the community who constantly put out films, and the films are consistently great. Cobra Studios is definitely one of those studios. I loved this film. The acting from main character and the bullet genie especially stood out above the other fine actors in this film.

the parts that I really liked were

1. The drink with the bullet genie at the beginning. This scene just worked really well. The acting was some of the best i have seen sported on this site's cinema.

2. The part where the main character was thinking of all his wishes. I just found this part hilarious. my favorite lines were "I better not have to look for it." "Sex, haven't had that in a while."

3. And of course, I loved the last little action sequence. I loved the anti-communist ninja, he was great.

Overall, of the best movies I have seen on the site in a while. another great film from Cobra.

5 stars
Posted: Thu, 15th Apr 2004, 2:11pm

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Wow. Thanks Waser. I'm glad you enjoyed it so much.
Posted: Thu, 15th Apr 2004, 2:45pm

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5 ferking stars! You've also made 2nd in my top 10.

Its ages since i've seen a movie worthy of my top 10, or even 5 stars, which doesn't involve gratuitous use of effects or a sci-fi story line. Its also conceivably the first time since Power Corps that i've seen a movie where some kind of attempt has been made at costumes, set design etc.

I'm frankly baffled by the other posts on this thread - specifically the ones bitching about compression (of which i saw none, at least at the default display size). If people are gonna whinge about compression when it evidentally looked great to so many other people, i guess thats something of a compliment about the rest of the film - the fact that there as nothing else to fault about it, other than pick holes in its presentation on the net.

There were several things i've got to commend you on:
1. using the set for display of opening credits.
2. superlative acting of Bullet Genie
3. a coherant, well executed, well delivered script and plot
4. never a dull moment
5. sound effects (qv)

The muzzle flashes from the guns were a little small, it has to be said, and although i liked the 'waking up' sound effect, it was a little too short.

Guest: I think you're being at least a little harsh, not to mention slightly arrogant and condescending (which isn't particularly endearing), with lines like "learn how to use that camera son". This is - after all - only a site focusing on software for the *amateur* film maker, so although i conceed that Volition isn't exactly a work of Copolla or Jackson, its pretty damned good by comparison to its peers, and i enjoyed it a lot.

Although i'm loathed to say it, this is one time when i am going to lower myself to the infantile retort of "You've done better then, have you, Guest?". People seem to normally use this feeble come-back when someone posts a review like "this sucks donkey balls, i think you are gay".
I, on the other hand, like to reserve it for times when its clear that someone knows what hes talking about but avoids qualifying his incite or blistering critique with evidence of his own ability or authority on the subject....ie: now.
Posted: Fri, 16th Apr 2004, 4:22am

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Damn, that was good!

Five points, no question!!!
Posted: Fri, 16th Apr 2004, 2:40pm

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Thanks for the comments guys. Glad you liked it. We had fun doin it.
Posted: Sat, 17th Apr 2004, 3:02pm

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Rating: +1

Gentelemen:

The following equation regarding compression size comes from the research article "Technical Considerations in the Deliery of A/V Course Content" written by Dr. Jay M. Lightfoot:

Approximate video file-size = [ (pixel width) x (pixel height) x (color depth) x (fps) x (duration in seconds)] / 8000
(Results expressed in megabytes)

For example the approximate size of a 10-min video at 15 fps, 320 x 240 pixels and 24 bit color depth would be:

Approximate video file-size = [ (320) x (240) x (24) x (15) x (6000)] / 8000 = 20376 MB = 20.736 GB

Although this equation comes from a respected research journal (The Journal of Educational Technology Systems, Vol 30 (1), 2001-2002) this equation was forumlated based on using Real Media, which obviously is not used here. However, I do believe that users may find some use to this equation to get a general feel for the size of their video.

It was important to share this piece of information because I want readers to consider the complex conundrum that is video compression. Remember that there are a myraid of different codecs out there (Cinepac, Sorensen) for an equally diverse presentation media (Real, Quicktime, Divx). Video compression is so complex that we have those in academia studying this complex matter; remember that Jay Lightfoot has a Phd . I am considering making this a subject of cognate concentration in my graduate studies.

That being said, I think that saying the compression "sucked" is totally inappropriate for in this forum, even though I will concede it is anyone's right to do so.

As stated in a past post, if you have no suggestions in how to improve on a subject such as compression (i.e. experimenting with a different codec or frame rate), you are not helping anyone in this community.

You are not interested in the improvement of any of the FXHome community members.

You are not being critical as your statement was merely an insult, and a sophmoric one at best.

I have high aspirations that this community can really go to the next level considering the amount of talent that is here. I can say this because in this past year I have exponentially learned how to become a better filmmaker, cinematographer, editor because of these members. Don't bring this community down by being condescending. Its not bad form; its a poor reflection of yourself.

My apologies to the FXHome community for this thread. However, I won't stand idly by while some guest totally disregards the purpose of posting here and verbally assults one of the most respected members of this community.
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I think we were all acutely aware that Guest was being a bit of a dick without having read your post, but thanks for writing so much on such an obvious point, most appreciated.
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Now that we got all that out of the way...Volition is playing this sunday April 25th at the MAFIA film festival in Oxford, OH. I'm hoping the audience reaction at the festival will be at least as good as this community's response. Thanks for taking the time to watch this film.
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Can't you play it in Oxford, UK ? razz
Posted: Mon, 19th Apr 2004, 3:53pm

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Let us know how it goes aj!
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Since you run MAFIA, can you just do as many festivals as you want?
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Well...technically yes...but that would mean more work for me....something which I have absolutely no time for. My life consists of a number of things that when added together are seemingly inhuman and take a grand toll on the body (I've been pretty much deathly sick during nearly every film I've made in the last 5 months including Fallen Angel, Deviance, and Volition because I do not have time to sleep - literally*** (see very bottom for e.g.) Anyway, here's my life in the version of a top ten list:

1.) Making movies.

2.) Running the MAFIA [which includes talking on the friggin phone all day (I probably have a brain tumor by now), emailing and deleting emails so my account doesn't overload, buying equipment, paying for equipment, meeting with people, dealing with anything and everything film related that comes through this campus, and exec producing every film that goes through the MAFIA]

3.) Watching movies. (At least one feature film a day and usually a bunch of shorts)

4.) Writing scripts.

5.) Checking FXHOME.COM

6.) Working at my job (yes I have a job)

7.) Eating and sleeping.

and at this point things start to trail off.....

8.) School (occasionally)

9.) Relaxing/Taking it Easy/Partying (almost never, except maybe for the few moments after the wrap of a movie or a romantic moment with my girlfriend.)

10.) Golfing (still on my wish list, hasn't made it to reality yet)

Despite all of this - I somehow manage to be generally happy, non-bitter, and friendly to most people. But I have more to include in my answer to your question.

Film festivals are a lot of work to put together - advertise for - get people from the area to come to and/or submit films to - and not to mention tough to host.

You should try it. It's rather destructive to the soul, but it's good experience, and something you can put on a resume. Forgive the book I have written, but I needed to vent that I think...yea it was probably healthy to do so. Ok I'm done.

AJ

Almost...

***An example of this is last night - I was up at OSU helping a friend with a script....I went to turn my car on and go home at 9 oclock PM (it's a 2 hour drive back to Miami University from OSU). I turned the key in the ignition and my car battery explodes in a ball of fire and splattered acid all over the inside of my car's engine compartment. I spent the next hour and a half trying to find a ride to the nearest 24 hour Meijer to get another car battery. I finally got one, fixed the thing myself and headed back to my school. I got there at 2:30am in the morning and had to be up at 7am for work. Things like this happen to me ALL of the time.
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Look at me A.J. I'm playing the world's smallest violin...You are acting like some network executive or something. If you don't like what you do, quit. But stop your belly aching...cuz i guarantee that few care...

Canta unsure
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So... Why do you do all of this? Why even bother having a festival for your movies if it means more work? I'm sorry that you're tired all the time, but it seems like you're making excuses. Have someone else do something for you. Given the amount of people you have to work with, I'm guessing that's probably not a hard thing to do. I'm assuming you'll tell me that's not possible, or something, but seriously. If it's so much work, and you do it all yourself, why not have someone help you?

It sounds like you're too eager to help people too. I used to be like that. I wrote a script for this guy, spent a while on it, and acted in the movie, and he didn't even credit me. So now, if people ask me for help, I tell them I'll try but I'm busy. Which means no.

I agree that you act like you're running some sort of corporation. You're 19, dude. You've got a lot of growing up to do, still. And if you don't think that's true, you're wrong. Take a break if it's too much for you. Don't make so many movies. Go to a party. Sleep in on weekends. Whatever.

I don't mean to sound like I'm lecturing you or something, but seriously...
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I don't understand the last two posts. aj was just explaining how crammed his life is, but mentioned he is still happy. to me this isn't complaining, it's explaining. confused
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I'm just trying to encourage the guy to give himself a little slack if his life is such hell all the time.
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Yeah, not sure what Canta's post was about. I took aj's explanation of his daily duties to mean that, yes, it'd damned hard work - but it's also well worth it.

Trust me, that chimes quite well here at CSB. smile

After all - "we don't do this because it is easy. We do it because it is hard."
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To Ajjax - don't you have a co-executive, e.g. secretary etc. to do certain things? I know from my own society that there is a temptation to not trust anyone else to do stuff but you've got to chill & sit back...although working hard can get the adrenaline going, which can feel great smile

I haven't seen Volition yet because I'm at home with snail-connection, but the MAFIA films tend to be well made & have a good visual look, even if the image is pixelated because of compression. I'm sure this one is no exception.

Films that accomplish that in my book deserve relatively high ratings, even if the story is sometimes unclear.
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cantaclaro wrote:

But stop your belly aching...cuz i guarantee that few care
Sadly, there are many who will side with this thread.

I am NOT one of them.

I think that AJ was both explaining why he couldn't do what he wants to do with MAFIA, in addition to just plain venting. Consider this readers:

His car troubles happened the evening before, yet he took the time to answer someone's thread/posting within 2 hours of the post.

If something as serious as car trouble occured to me, I wouldn't have put answering someone's thread a high priority unless I felt that film making and the FXHome community was important aspect of my life. And you should NEVER feel bad about helping someone. Teaching is one of the most oldest and most respected "professions" (note that I didn't say well paid).

Sometimes you have to work really hard in life and get paid a little or receive little recognition. Eventually you'll get paid a lot or receive a lot of recognition for working very little.

That being said, I still like the movie and hope everything goes well on Sunday. Please send me a PM to let me know how it went. If you can record the reactions to the video like I did with my post, I'd like to hear it biggrin



PS ~ I wouldn't advise showing your top 10 list to your significant other, as she may insist on being ranked higher tard
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RudyPicardo wrote:

PS ~ I wouldn't advise showing your top 10 list to your significant other, as she may insist on being ranked higher tard
I am confused... What does this mean?

Also, I totally agree that filmmaking is hard work, but worth it. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again... If I could, I would be out shooting something every single day. I miss the days in school when I would wake up at 5.30 to go shoot and not get done until 5.30 the next day. It's damn hard, and exhausting, but when you see your product, it's a wonderful feeling, and I would really enjoy doing that all the time. Sure, I'd probably get tired too, but that's a good thing. Like pop always say "It builds character."
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Lol. Wow.

Canta - perhaps my language was confusing for you, although I do have a real belly ache after reading your post.

Aculag - in your first response, you missed my point (along with a couple others). I love what I do. I enjoy it thoroughly. Tarn was right, it's hard work but well worth it - do you think they're maxin out and relaxing right now when ALAMDV3 is on the line? No sir..they're working like 60 hours a week or more to make us a good product and they will be more successful for it. The reason I don't let anyone else do what I do right now is because it is criticial that the first year of our existance goes as smoothly as possible. I don't trust anyone to do the job with as much dedication and passion as I do at this point given how new our organization is. I also want to set an example (since I started the thing, and it means more to me than, say...canta - obviously.)

Eager to help people? Dood, I get about 35-60 phone calls a day from people wanting shit from me. I say no to more than 3/4 of them. Most of the people are newcomers who don't know what they're asking for and understand that but they have to learn to approach people better, and figure out more things themselves. I help people I trust and care about. In return they help me. When I was at OSU - I was helping my friend Logan Nalliah (look in the credits of a bunch of my films. He has helped me a great deal and as a friend, I owe him. This will one day ensure a good working relationship with someone who I instinctively feel is worth helping because he's got what it takes to be a professional. Others who I do not know as well have to earn my trust first. I may be 19 but what the hell difference does that make? I run this like a corporation and guess what - it pays off. I have tons of contacts that I otherwise wouldn't have had if I didn't work this hard. I am telling people this so they will work as hard too. It's the only way to get where you want to go in life. If you want no regrets, work your ass off - and do it with a purpose.

Mellifluous - yes, I have two other presidents - but at this point, they're gearing down to graduate in three weeks, leaving me with the entire bulk of the society. I'm grooming some other kids to move up and replace them. Next year I'll delegate more responsibilities to them and other people (like a treasurer, and a secretary). Its tough now, but because it means we'll be established for next year - I'm willing to put my health on the line to do it. I like tough things. They make me a better person when I finish them. Or like Aculag's pop always say "It builds character."

RudyPicardo - as far as the significant other thing goes - she's just like me. We both place filmmaking and getting better high on our priority lists. She's going to NYU this summer to do the same 6 week film program that I did last summer and she's awesome with lighting.
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i think this is a prime example of how the quality of the camera affects the overall opinion of viewers on the quality of the actual movie..i felt this movie was just very boring and not really interesting..if it wasnt shot on top of the line equipment..and shot with a 600 dollar sony camera..people would not leave the replies they are leaving...the only real reason i watched this movie to the end is to look at what kind of high quality image the dvx can produce....filming a guy walking around in a city with the dvx-100 would interest me and keep me watching just because the fact that it is shot with that camera and its very high quality..im not saying the movie was bad..its alot better than some of the movies on this site..but its not anything special at all besides the actual image quality
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I think you're a prime example of how to be completely obnoxious. Get a name.
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LOL... im sorry.. but thats funny... and true. Im sick of these supposed "guests". Alot of the time I believe that they are just members hiding behind their own names so people wont dislike like them. Every1's entitled to their own opinion. Just dont say it behind a "guest" name, its such a cop-out...

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tard "Simmer down now, simmer down. Why don't we just settle this over a drink? Whoo!!!!" tard
- Bulleit Genie, VOLITION
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Seen this now smile

Technically, good. Story seemed a little convoluted. The genie laughed too much. It was a good idea to intercut from the guy & the genie both laughing manically etc but just a bit over the top.

The idea was good, though not really a new spin on the genre (all genie/wishes stories have things going wrong for the protagonist).

You inferred a link between the guy drinking & the wishes (the genie said something like an extra wish would be granted when the bottle was finished?) but this wasn't clear as he was drinking. Maybe a genie voice over with each swig?

I got confused with the girl. Sometimes she looked as if she was pointing a gun (or knife - can't remember!) at the main guy, but then didn't do anything while he shot the masked guys. I don't really understand what was going on with that, other than that you were trying to say, he wished for a beautiful woman, beautiful yet...deadly
Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2004, 5:46pm

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Don't all stories have things going wrong for the protagonist? I think it'd be pretty boring otherwise...

I'm sorry you were confused about the girl...but she didn't do anything with a gun while she was on the couch until Dave was done shooting. She simply pointed it at him. All she was doing was covering her ears and shaking her head to the ridiculosity of the situation.

His third wish wasn't spoken out loud - but I felt the outcome of it would be obvious, considering how he deliberatley looked at the poster of the action movie, and responded to it. The second wish (about the sex) would have happened had he given all the wishes time to come true. The girl winded up being a part of his third wish, however, debunking the second one. That's what I believe at least....you can take from it what you want.

You mentioned that I've added nothing new to this genre to make this film my own. Ever seen a film where someone gets a wish every time they take a shot of Bulleit Bourbon Whisky? Or a genie dressed in 70's clothing and who calls himself the Bulleit Genie? Just curious. If you have then I will understand your statement.

As far as your concern about the wishes. The genie explains this thoroughly in the beginning but I will run through it again for you:

3 wishes.
One per shot (up to three).
A fourth and final wish if he finishes the bottle.

No one in their right mind could finish a bottle of whisky in a moment without passing out either while they're doing it or shortly after (especially a guy of david's size) which is why he doesn't get to finish that final wish. I didn't feel when I was making it that I needed to spell all of this out. I think if I would have explained everything it would have been an unecessary addition to the film. In fact, I think there could be other things construed about what happens and that's how I wanted it. Use your imagination. I wanted to make something that was fun to watch...I didn't plan on people scrutinizing the plot because it's already a looney film not to be taken seriously.
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ajjax44 wrote:


You mentioned that I've added nothing new to this genre to make this film my own. Ever seen a film where someone gets a wish every time they take a shot of Bulleit Bourbon Whisky? Or a genie dressed in 70's clothing and who calls himself the Bulleit Genie? Just curious. If you have then I will understand your statement.

Of course, I haven't seen a film with all the ingredients you've put in, but I have seen a few short films, and 1 play, all of which had charismatic genie who didn't conform to the norm. 1 of the films had a main guy who was granted unlimited wishes depending on how many doughnuts he ate. One of them was a spin on Analyze This, with a genie in rehab speaking to a shrink.

In this kind of genre, I know that there are only 2 outcomes; things go right or things go bad. The usual direction seems to be bad, as the genie seemingly never understand English. It'd be nice to see something where things go well, or where bad things happen because the main character asks for them to happen.

EDIT: I don't mean to scrutinise the plot, but I inevitably think about a film's plot after watching and enjoying it, as I did with this.

My critique may have been a bit monosyllabic which makes it look a bit mad Sorry about that
Posted: Tue, 27th Apr 2004, 12:55pm

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This film was VERY well received by audiences at the first annual M.AF.I.A. film fest 2004. So was "Deviance" but "Volition" conjured some of the best comments I heard all night. It has been accepted into another festival called the Underneath Cincinnati film fest, next weekend. Hopefully it will be as well receieved there.
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Nice. Good luck.
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Congratulations! biggrin
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Thanks guys. I'm lookin forward to it.
Posted: Sun, 2nd May 2004, 6:49am

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i'd give it a 7 out of 10 great story line and funny characters!

Peace out! \oo/o
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Hehe, thanks. I appreciate it AX3L - latr
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thanks for something different. that was very entertaining. awesome cinematography. fun movie to watch. sorry for the short response, but nothing else is needed to be said. nothing.
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oh wait, i lied. i wanted to say how much steppenwolf rocks. great choice.
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indeed - thanks for noticing - that was something I had in mind from the get go - magic carpet ride - a fitting song for an "aladdin's lamp" sort of situation - (e.g. in the lyrics it says "Last night I held Aladdin's Lamp") smile ROCK ON!!!!
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Isn't that the version from the Go soundtrack? Wasn't there another song from that in this too, or am I going mad?
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Yea it says in the credits - good eyes....er....ears....
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It's a good soundtrack.
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Yeap it is a good soundtrack - btw this ran at the Underneath Cincinnati film festival last weekend, but it was blown out of the water by a big budget 30 minute gangster movie shot in LA with like 10 minutes worth of names in the credits and things like cop cars, real guns, and a dude jumping off a building (a big building) - for real - with a stunt crew and everything along with a special thanks to the screen actor's guild in the end credits. I'd estimate the film total cost at around 300 grand... We'll see if that one wins, as the votes haven't been counted yet but I doubt it will lose - the audience in the past has voted for the super budget films (even though there's usually only one and it seems completely out of place for a local film festival). It was well done - but way out of the "no budget" league. I give the director mad props though - it was a polished piece of work that will (if it hasn't already) open some doors for him. I wish I could play with 35mm - that would be fun.

AJ
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I really liked that film, as always some great cinematic touches, wipes, uses of focus, dutch angles, I'm constantly impressed by how you can get these things to work so well. Good acting all round. The Genie guy was great dressed like Johnny Depp in "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" and wonderfully over the top. The scene where they get drunk was really well done using the stylistic touches you do so well to good effect and I can't help but laugh everytime I see it. It's the story of my life (just with more genies).

One of the best pieces of work on here, don't think it's as good as "Deviance" or "Fallen Angel" but it's more fun that both of those put together.

5 stars, and more please.
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Thanks two-gunned. I agree its not as good as Fallen Angel or Deviance - cause those movies were shot over 2-6 days each. We shot all this during one saturday from 12pm to 2:30am. But - this is not an excuse - I think if we woulda had more time to spend on it it wouldn't be as good cause we were on a roll once we started - I think that's what made it so fun to watch. This was a one time deal - cause we had no script!

If we woulda stopped to rest and woken up the next day and shot some more - we would've lost that spark that kept us going that whole day. When u don't have a script - it usually isn't as well put together - but I was happy with what came out of our improved ideas and like I said it was a one time deal. Thanks about the acting comment - I was very proud of my actors that day. smile More to come!