Would such a software (if it doesn't exist) be useful?
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Posted: Tue, 4th May 2004, 8:18pm
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hey guys it's me again. I was wondering if any of you know of any Movie Preparation Software that is available...Like a software that Allows you to create a new "Movie Project" and allows you to create a script (or scripts), track locations, keep a log of all activity pertaining to a movie, make an manifest of equipment, keep a checklist, etc. Cuz if there isn't I am debating whether or not to program one. Maybe I could get REALLY advanced and give it the option to work with a MySQL DBase and then have a Web Extention, or make a web-based version and make them compatible with each other or something.
Posted: Tue, 4th May 2004, 8:38pm
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Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 2:27am
Post 3 of 27
heh guess someone beat me to it. Guess I won't need to make one.
Looks older tho, looks like it was programmed in VB 5 or 6.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 2:32am
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Still, though, I'm sure there's some sort of program you could code that could be of use to filmmakers. A while ago someone (I forget who) made a program for comparing video clips side by side, and apparently it was useful. Search the forums and you can probably find it.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 2:42am
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ooh ya that's a little out of league right now. I wouldn't know where to start to handle video. Right now I can do data manipulation (inputting, modifying, storing data etc.) I program in VB.net (i like it cuz it is easy and fast enough for me to make any UI program...I hate it cuz it's M$) i am learning Java right now, and I am going to be taking classes on PHP / MYSQL. I still a beginner but I tend to have fun. My final project was an IT LogBook which was pretty cool. Anywho if anyone has any requests I'll seewaht I can do.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 3:50am
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never heard of movie preparation software.........
sounds a little.....useless?
whats wrong with a pencil and paper...... just because movies are being done more and more with computers doesn't mean you have to use them for everything... you can be more creative off a computer.....like outsite
the only software i can see being useful for "prep" or scrit writing is word..... lol
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 10:17am
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Word is rubbish for writing scripts. You can wrestle with it and get decent results, but you really want to use a dedicated program such as Final Draft - at least, you do if you're wanting to create professional-quality scripts.
There's also a program called Gorilla which is designed for independent producers. I haven't used it myself, but it certainly sounds interesting. Not something you need for your average lightsaber test, but if you're making a proper film it could prove useful.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 3:10pm
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This is a very interesting idea because there are folk like myself who want to know every aspect that needs to be covered when organising a shoot. When my idea is eventually undertaken, I will definitely need this to organise actors, crew, myself(!) and those overseeing the project.
Software like this helps those like myself who want to know everything that needs covered. And of course, if it's prewritten in software, it certainly cuts the development time.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 4:43pm
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Such Software does (sort of) exist.. depending on your definition of PREP software..
For preparing your story, formatting your ideas etc...
Storyview, Power Structure, Dramatica Pro.
Then, for Typing up your script...
There are others, then there is.. Final Draft..
For the pre-production stuff... Final draft can export you scripts into.
Movie magic Producer.
This allows you to perform scene breakdowns, prop, effect, extras requirements, and to generate a location breakdown. You can then create a stripboard for your blockbuster..
it all costs $$$$$ (Unless you really want to use pirate software?)
and as was mentioned earlier... complete overkill for the average "lightsabre test"
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 7:16pm
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Movie magic screenwriter is what i use, and i find it superior to final draft.
also, it seems like alot of programs are named with "end-use" names, like:
final draft,final cut, after effects etc..
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 7:22pm
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Well, speaking for myself here, I was referring to things that surround a shoot. Nothing to do with script writing software. I've actually used Word, Open Office and Final Draft to write my script. As long as you know what you're doing, it's pretty easy to format it without specific software. Even in Word!
That movieplanner software is the kinda thing I was thinking about. But if Cutty can make something better, then hey, give it a go.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 7:27pm
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download this for wordscriptwriting template
I was using it earlier and its really good. You just gootta use the presets for the writings on the top in word when you dload this that say things like dialogue, transition, character. It works pretty nicelyy.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 8:52pm
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Lloyd66 wrote:Still, though, I'm sure there's some sort of program you could code that could be of use to filmmakers. A while ago someone (I forget who) made a program for comparing video clips side by side, and apparently it was useful. Search the forums and you can probably find it.
Tap2 made media gadget I think thats what your talking about.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 9:16pm
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I think you should do this movie prep thing.
It would come in very useful, if you configure it well. It would be good to have ONE program that does loads of different things.
But this will require through investigation into the filmmaking process, & you'd need to get the steps in the right order.
Useful things in such a software would be:-
Script template, with a 1 click system that creates the look for you e.g. log line = click the log line button before you type & it comes out as a log line. Exportable to Word.
Schedule planner, with fields to fill in such as schedule description, time, people involved etc which can then be printed off or exported to Word.
Storyboard feature with fields such as type of shot (Close up, medium shot etc) The ultimate of this would have simple stick men which you can place on the storyboard at different angles to simulate the scene. At the moment I use Poser but it's too complicated for storyboards really
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 10:33pm
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I like that idea about poseable stickmen in your program - making storyboards simple, quick and effective. Nice one, Mel!
Just click on a limb and move it - moving the stickman into a pose. Nice.
Posted: Wed, 5th May 2004, 10:35pm
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so I guess "The Movie Planner" (posted above) just isn't cutting it for you people. I love how the topics I have been posting have been pretty popular so you people are motivating me to do one. Though, it would be nice to get a couple of people on this. If anyone here has any request/advice/suggestions on the design and what it should do please start posting it.
Posted: Thu, 6th May 2004, 2:09am
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you guys are talking about story board programs?
Is a link to a topic i started about a week ago. No one responded, but i got a plus one for it. That program can do stickfigures and you can import pics. It also has a visualizer so you can see your movie before you shoot it. Its pretty cool. Check it out!
Posted: Thu, 6th May 2004, 5:28am
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This is very, very cool. i bought this awhile ago, and man, it just makes everthing 20 times easier.www.frameforgestudio.com
Posted: Thu, 6th May 2004, 5:39am
Post 19 of 27
This organization has a whole line of Prep software. But like everything else it cost $$$
Posted: Thu, 6th May 2004, 7:42am
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I've used that, it's okayish, good for free but I find it a bit too slow to do. I mean built-in stick figures that you just click to position, not ones you draw.
I'll draw a kind of interface to show what I mean
Posted: Thu, 6th May 2004, 12:29pm
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Me too Mel. I meant a moveable interface, not drawing or for holding pictures.
Posted: Sat, 8th May 2004, 8:24pm
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I am right on the verge of buying Cinematrix (click here)
I mainly like the fact that it creates everything based on an imported script. So if you make changes to the script, it can update all the other stuff: shot lists, actors, props, locations, etc. The producer version also creates budgeting and finance reports.
I'll report back when I've used it some.
I also looked at the Movie Magic production modules, but I decided it was too expensive.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 4:03pm
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My name is James, and I wrote Movieplanner. It is getting quite old and is in need of enhancement, both in feature and in underlying technology.
That's why I started a project for Movieplanner version 2. It is an Open Source project hosted on Sourceforge.net and the application will be released under the GNU General Public Licence.
We are still in the planning stages and have identified a number of features and enhancements through feedback from current Movieplanner users (many of them are the same as mentioned in this thread).
We will be writing it in C# for .NET and taking advantage of Mono (the .NET clone project from Novell) to run it natively on Linux and Mac OSX as well as Windows.
Using this collaborative method of development, I'm sure we can produce something far greater than I could've done alone.
I invite you to join the project. I'm finalizing the Requirements document and can send you a copy if you like as soon as its done.
There is currently myself and two other developers that are interested in helping, and I'm sure once we get going more will join. If you, or anyone reading this, know of anyone that might be interested, the invitation is open to all.
Let me know.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 10:50pm
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Wow, Hey James, that's really cool. I am sort of an amateur at programming, the last thing I made was an IT LogBook (which looking back now could've been done infinately better). I took a course in VB.net and just finished a course on Java (OOP IS g0d!) so i don't think picking C# up will be a problem. I would love to help out! I just hafta figure out how to OOP with VB.net (that'll take me a couple of hours) but ya. If at the very least i got tons of Ideas
Ya THAT'D BE AWESOME working with Mono I JUST JUST read an article about it. Hey PM with some details how i can better get in touch with you (like IM or Email )
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 1:58am
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I like your program. Very useful.
However, I think the best thing for movie planning is a piece of paper,a pencil, and one's creative mind. You can't beat those tools!
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 2:22am
Post 26 of 27
But if you're not sure where to begin, programs like these can be a helpful guide. Paper and a pen are always used, anyway.
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 2:48am
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Of course the creative mind is the most essential part, but Movieplanner give you a place to keep track of everything so you can free your mind for more creative duties!
Pencil and paper are fine, but when I was trying to list all the props I had to make (or borrow, or steal) and the characters I needed to cast for my first real script I got overwhelmed within the first two pages.
I wanted to know, for any given character which scenes was he/she in. I tried a spreadsheet, and that at ugly quick, and I kept thinking up more info I wanted to know. Like, if a certain prop, or actor wasn't available, which shots could I shoot anyway, at a given location. That's when Movieplanner was born.
As for more info about the project just go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/movieplanner/
You can email me at sauja at users dot sourceforge dot net
I will be uploading the requirments document as soon as its done.
I'm really busy in real life, so movement on Movieplanner is kinda slow right now. But once we hit critical mass, it will hopefully move faster.
Thanks for the interest. Version 1 was really buggy, I have high hopes for version 2.