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Intruder

Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 11:48am

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A man comes home to find his door open. This movie was made as a test for suspense. We were bored, and it was 4 am...I'm sure you know the rest of this story and I think it came out pretty good considering the circumstances. So have a good time watching this movie and post comments, they are always welcome. Turn up your speakers, turn off the lights, and enjoy Intruder.

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Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 1:29pm

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Yeah this movie was really hot. There were lots of things I liked about it, but there were also somethings I thought were a little corny.

The good:
1)good use of music and sfx
2)nice way of building up suspense
3)camera work was well done
4)acting overall was really good too, he seemed scared and concerned, however not to much like some big macho tough guy with a gun

The bad:
1)One of the main things in this movie that sort of takes away from the whole feel is the conveniance of these guns lying around. For instance he walks in and he notices someone is in his apartment so he magically whips out a 9mm. yeah I know you can carry one around but still. Also, he walks into his bedroom and lying on the floor is a shotgun...kind of fake. What I would of done is have the pistol in some cabinet when he walked in the door, or at least have the shotgun under the bed or something.
2) The other thing was when he went into the living room, like every door shut in his house. Now if the intruder is human, thats a little corny. If the intruder was like a monster which i think it was than cool, I guess you could let that slide.

Other than that, great job guys and I think I am gonna go and give this a 5, I still think its really cool. Kind of like 'Homesick' with action.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 1:58pm

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Wow, I must say that was very impressive. That is a hard one to rate for me...but I'm going to give it a 5. The only thing that I saw was little dumb details like...your tripod was in one scene, and you could see the camera man's shadow on the wall when he went to 'get bigger gun'. The gun thing didn't bother me...but like was pointed out it would have been nice to see him grab a gun from a cabinet, but it didn't effect the flow of the movie.
Great job.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 2:35pm

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lol calibretto don't bother voting. Your not a gold member....your votes don't count.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 2:46pm

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Thanks guys. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I actually shot this movie back in at the beginning of September before the rash of "Man at home with something scary in the house" movies hit here at fxhome.

movieguy5 - when he opens the door to the kitchen closet, did the monster sound like a human to you? There is actually a story as to why this man is carrying a gun...sort of, but I completely understand where are coming from. I think it makes the movie flow better.

Calibretto - HAHA, I didn't think anybody would catch most of those mistakes good eye.

This summer I plan to reshoot something similar to this with a plot and some story before and after this scene.

Canta unsure
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 3:54pm

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This was good, sound was mainly good but compared to a proper movie it wasn't too good. When he's outside the room at the end particularly, I noticed that the sound was home movie-ish. I hate omnidirectional mics smile But the monster sound gave me the chills. Hope to actually see him in your next film... wink

Oh, 1 other thing, there was way too much black after your logo sequence.

Movieguy5, you may be joking but you do seem have an attitude towards non-goldmembers. Their votes, & opinions, do count IMO. Just because they don't happen to own some software doesn't mean they can't enjoy a movie & rate it what they think, & give feedback that isn't equally important. Anyway, there are 3 types of rating categories in the Cinema archive - Gold Votes, Force votes & All votes. 2:1, non-goldmembers' votes certainly count.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 4:09pm

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Well, the sound was good! The story was kinda wierd, but that with all the doors locking fast was really cool! The movie wasn't good eough for a 5, but I think that it deserved a 4!

So I gave it a 4!


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Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 7:42pm

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You have mad editing skills. The suspense was built up to a great finish. I give a 5.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 8:40pm

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Damn that was some wicked use of audio. It definatly makes you jump those sudden upbeats. The camera work was good and overall looks like you put some good time and effor into this video project. Keep it up man.

5 going out to Canta wink
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 10:23pm

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I'm glad you decided to throw this in the cinema, canta. It wasn't getting nearly enough love as just a topic.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 10:44pm

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That was so cool! I really enjoye this short, Alot! it just flowed perfectlly.
hey small question (i dont know if any one has asked this) but um, what smoke effect did you use? looked very impressive.
hope you can reply on that. Great job, thats a 5 to me
peace out
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 10:45pm

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Rating: +1

ssjaaron wrote:

That was so cool! I really enjoye this short, Alot! it just flowed perfectlly.
hey small question (i dont know if any one has asked this) but um, what smoke effect did you use? looked very impressive.
hope you can reply on that. Great job, thats a 5 to me
peace out
he used the famous sollthar smoke http://www.nccinema.ch
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 10:46pm

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Rating: +1

He used Sollthar's smoke stock footage that you can get from his website www.nccinema.ch
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 10:54pm

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I thougt the idea was good, but the actualy execution was average..

I think the MIDI chorus music was really lame, but I thought the deeper music fit the mood well. My only problem is that the MIDI chorus music was more prominent (sic?) in the film. For some reason, the use of guns in this made it less scary. I think it would have been more intense if the person were defensless and a little more cluesless to what was going on, at least to the point where they don't pull out a gun right away. I thought when he finally opened the closet to see whatever it that was in there, the use of sound right there was really good. The quick retaliation with a gun quickly killed the mood for me. This happened as well when he is in the dark and all you can here is the horrible sounds of the monster or whatever it is, and I thought that was really well done, but the gun again killed the suspensful mood.

I cant remember who said it earlier in the thread, but they called this Home Sick with action. In a supernatural suspense film like this, I dont think action works. The reason, to me at least, why the movies Home Sick and Ghost worked so well, is because you didn't know what was going to happen to the character, at least in the sense of whether it was good or bad. In Intruder, the sense of mystery was taken down a notch when you knew of the immediate threat that needed a gun to be answered with.

I think that this could have worked really well, even though we have seen 3 movies like this (two of them in the cinema) and I think the formula was good at first, but is now just getting old. The added action didn't help either. I'm torn with whether to give this 2 or 3 stars.
Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 11:18pm

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Waser- I made this movie in September way before Homesick or Ghost and I think my music is pretty good. I'm sorry that I don't have a symphony orchestra or a the Vienna Boys Choir sitting in my house right now. I like to make all original music, and not steal it like most. Thanks for posting your comments but seeing as how this was a movie made out of boredom, at 4 in the morning mind you, you can't really expect that we would have spent more than 5 minutes thinking up a scenario. I had guns, I had an empty apartment, I needed to do some muzzle flash tests, why not incorporate this into a fun little project tonight...ah good idea lets do it. I'm not saying your opinion is wrong but considering the situation critiquing the scenario that is getting "old" isn't really fair since I did it first.

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Posted: Mon, 10th May 2004, 11:58pm

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I by no means meant that you didn't think this up first (I actually had no idea), but to me the overall formula is still old, and if this had been released back when it was made, i would have not thought so.

I respect the fact that you chose to put your own music in your film, something that few people do, but I didn't think the music was that fitting (some).

also, I wouldnt say that puting unoriginal music in a film is stealing, but i wont argue against you because that is really opinion
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:20am

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Rating: +2

Um... Waser?

hmm...
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:23am

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heheh I mentioned there were three films, and I'm not really proud of that thing at all. I could say that hey, I thought of that idea a long, long long long time ago (which I did), but it doesn't matter. The end product was bad, and basically used the formula I mentioned, which is the reason I didn't post it on the cinema. I don't get what you wanted to get out of posting that.
EDIT but I will give you a +1 for you dirt digging ability in trying to make my point invalid becuase of that film razz

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Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:27am

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The reason I posted it is because you're critcising canta's film for being a rehashing of an over used storyline, when you yourself have used the exact same thing. Kinda hypocritical, no?
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:31am

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Yes, and if my movie were posted on the cinema, I would have said the same thing I said about his, even though his is a better film. I never said that I liked the film I made, and yes, I think it was stupid to make that movie. I can criticize myself as I have criticized his film, so I don't feel that I am a hypocrite. I made the same "mistake" that I feel he made, so I feel like I can say something.

Also, I'd like to suggest that this discussion stop (though if you'd like the last word I certainly wouldn't care) as it is taking this forum way off topic

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Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:43am

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Mellifluous wrote:

When he's outside the room at the end particularly, I noticed that the sound was home movie-ish. I hate omnidirectional mics smile
Actually that was an ambient sfx that I added. I shot this with an external uni-directional mic attached to the camera.

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Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 12:50am

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That was good. Great music. Wasn't my favorite ending. Maybe if you made a longer version of the movie you could do a different ending but that's up to you good job though.
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 3:04pm

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Nice Film, nice camerawork, great music as it matched to what was happening.
really like the Logo and wanted to ask how you did that effect, the background of Intruder logo.
Also wanted to know, if you made the music your self, or if it is made out of bits and pieces from horros films.

Cheers devilskater
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 3:11pm

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I'm glad you liked the movie and music. I made it all from scratch, and the logo was made in LiveType.

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Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 4:23pm

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I think it was quite nice. As you said, made late and all. When the actor passes the citchen its too much backlight so his face seems almost as a siluette.

I find its weird he opened the closet door with both hands, instead of one hand and used the other to ready the weapon. Likewise with the shotgun, this is after he has seen something terrifying, he holds the shutgun in the cocker and not easily by the trigger.

As he carries a gun and has shotguns lying around I would guess the character has some weapon handling experience and would avoid this.

We dont know what was in the house, but if it was something that didnt die from being shot at, I for one would not stand directly behind the door, ready to be bashed in smile

I rate it 4
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 4:31pm

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cantaclaro wrote:

I'm glad you liked the movie and music. I made it all from scratch, and the logo was made in LiveType.
Where does one get this LiveType. I looked in download.com, but nothing found.
Can one do this effect in premiere pro(or other versions).

devilskater
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 5:06pm

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Um... Waser?

hmm...
lol, waser.... he got you good you focker wink

Canta, i enjoyed this peice and i thought the ambient sounds were great. I especially liked the quick cuts that you made with the chair spinin, the curtians dangling and all that. Good timing, cool film.
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 6:23pm

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devilskater wrote:

cantaclaro wrote:

I'm glad you liked the movie and music. I made it all from scratch, and the logo was made in LiveType.
Where does one get this LiveType. I looked in download.com, but nothing found.
Can one do this effect in premiere pro(or other versions).

devilskater
www.apple.com

Now there is motion which I think includes livetypes freatures in it. I got live type because it comes with FCP
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 9:52pm

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CX3 wrote:

Um... Waser?

hmm...
lol, waser.... he got you good you focker wink

I don't really see how. Waser didn't post his movie expecting to get good reviews.

Canta posted his movie in the cinema so that people would rate it. Waser did just that - he reviewed it. It shouldn't matter whether or not he has made something similar just for fun. He didn't post his movie expecting to get a high rating like Canta apparently did.

Also, as I have well learned the circumstances under which you film your movie have no affect on the rating you get on FXHome.
Posted: Tue, 11th May 2004, 10:17pm

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Waser may not have posted his movie to get good reviews, but I know for a fact that canta didn't either. He posted it so people could see it.

I only pointed out the fact that waser seemed so critical of using this type of storyline, when he did the exact same thing himself. Whether or not he posted it in the cinema is irrelevant.
Posted: Wed, 12th May 2004, 1:02am

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Aculag wrote:

Waser may not have posted his movie to get good reviews, but I know for a fact that canta didn't either. He posted it so people could see it.
I must have just assumed that canta posted his movie expecting to get good reviews because he wasn't satisfied with waser's bad review. Makes sense to me.
Posted: Wed, 12th May 2004, 2:12am

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Intruder = awesome
you just need to watch for shadows from the camera man. Besides that it rocked \m/
Posted: Thu, 13th May 2004, 1:40am

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the camera angles were probably the biggest turnoff
as it didnt really feel like a suspense
moreover, i think more needed to be added to the plot
to have some better fulfillment b/c the ending wasn't too hot

btw... ure intro logo sounds exactly like red vs. blue... haheho

nonetheless, the ambient sound was great
pacing of scenes were good as they were short
Posted: Thu, 13th May 2004, 2:44am

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jetaimaster wrote:

btw... ure intro logo sounds exactly like red vs. blue... haheho
/me listens to rvb theme again.

Not really...the only thing that is even alike about them is the fact that they are both played on a guitar. Mine is a totally different melody, and played on a completely different guitar model.

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Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 6:53am

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I enjoyed it although the monster scream seemed a little cheasy, and the ending was unsatisfying.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 4:33am

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Nicely done. The pacing was very good, and not showing the monster -- or even hinting initially that it was one -- helped increase the tension of the film. Minimal f/x, but you had a good concept and excellent execution. Now you've got me wanting more. Any plans to expand it?

J.
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 4:25pm

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Well... im not usually easily startelled... buit this one starteled me...

NIce work! lOved the muzzle flashes too wink

Nice tunage! it lowered my into a calmness.. then oit flashed and its raining out now so it scared me!
lol

NICE JOB! KEEP IT UP!
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Not too much to say about this. I mean, it starts off nicely and the music drew me straight in. The animated title is beautiful, how'd you do that? The problem eventually hits when the film just seems to drag on with not much happening. There's about 2, maybe 3 minutes there that didn't have to be there. Once it gets up to the closet doors i think is when it started to interest me again. After there you were able to pull me back in and have enough suspense to hold my attention for the rest. Not a bad job, just a little too long.

I find it funny though that the guy has a shotgun right on his bed. biggrin