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Curious: Does anyone school use any of CSB's products?

Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 1:38am

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Hey just wondering but is there much demand by school using the products. I'm doing a greenscreen project at my school and we were using Adobe Premiere (which is horrible for greenscreen) so I toll my com-tech teacher about Chromantor so he got the demo and we showed him the results and he just loves it so apparently he's suppose to be getting atleast one copy for the computer in the greenscreen room and we will have it to do our project on smile
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 1:43am

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That's pretty cool. My school refuses to believe amateur filmmaking exists so we don't even have a single film program at my school... yet. I'm currently writing the curriculum for a film class that might go in to effect next year. If not next year, then my senior year.

Not sure why we don't have any film class, it could be because we are a really new school (just opened in 2002) but still, the closest thing we have to film is multimedia and 3d design which really have nothing to do with film. Oh well, all in good time. smile
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 2:54am

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Well, no CSB products, but that's because we have no editing computer. sad Instead, we use these crappy, $4000 stand alone editors that have all the features to compete well with Windows Movie Maker!

Yeah, but since I'll be in the video production class next year, I'm prodding our teacher to get an editing computer. Actually, last year they had one with Premiere, but nobody used it because they thought it was too complicated (you see, nobody cares about the video stuff at all). So I'm hoping we'll get that back for next year, or else I may curl up into a ball and die.

But if we do get it, that would be cool to get a CSB product for it. smile
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 4:14am

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Does anyone know people on this site by meating them, or have known them but just realized that they are a user or an active user? Like, hey Billy, I like making movies too, really? cool, i have a sweet program, so do I! tah dah. Or just know antone from school?
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 9:07am

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I'd hope that no one on this site has "meated" anyone razz
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 9:09am

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Schools are a very important market to us, and we hope to make more of an impact in the future.

Part of our ethos has always been about how digital technology is bringing all the top tools to enthusiasts and low-budget productions. Traditionally filmmaking has been a no-go area for many educational establishments, simply because of the inherent costs, but that is all changing now. With costs reducing all the time thanks to digital video and quality higher than it ever has been, it's a great time to get into filmmaking - that's one reason we try to keep our prices as low as possible, so that creativity is not killed simply due to financial restrictions.
Posted: Mon, 17th May 2004, 12:44pm

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Our school try to aim pretty high. It's supose to be prepering for the real film industrie. First year we use premiere pro, next year we use Avid Pro and Final Cut Pro.

I don't think we will get into special effects or chroma keying.
Sweden is a hard market for CSB, I think they'll have best chance in the US and UK.
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 1:51am

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Today my teacher bought it!!! There weren't very many people in the class today so he decided we could play around with it, because he wants to use the tutorials and add it into the ciriculum using the software with there green screen room. So the test we did was my teacher walking on water on the river beside the school. The results were amazing and he was amazed! Finally got it into our school smile
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 1:54am

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wdy wrote:

The results were amazing and he was amazed!
This is generally the outcome of something being amazing, yes. smile
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 1:56am

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LOL

Aculag, since when do you use smileys? Whatever, keep it up smile
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 1:57am

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Pooky, since no one can ever tell when I'm joking, or being playful, I've decided to make use of them.
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 1:59am

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Yeah, that's why I said keep it up razz
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 2:05am

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cool! I wish my school even had something resembling a filmmaking class. The closest thing we have is our morning announcements that are done with some crappy, fifty year old cameras and equally as old editing equipment (yes you heard me right... they use one of those old editing things. Nothing on the computer whatsoever)... Shudder... That would be awesome if we could have something like that.

You have a greenscreen ROOM in you SCHOOL??? Awesome man... i wish i was in that school. What are you in? high school?
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 2:53am

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evman101 wrote:

You have a greenscreen ROOM in you SCHOOL??? Awesome man... i wish i was in that school. What are you in? high school?
Yup im currently enrolled in grade eleven at Carleton Place High.

Aculag Funny guy eh.. biggrin
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 2:58am

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my school is so poor, i dont think they would spring for it, but they dont take their film courses seriously anyway. next year will be the first year for a real film course though, and for projects i plan to showcase many CSB effects.
Posted: Fri, 21st May 2004, 3:03am

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If my school had a greenscreen room, Id never leave!




...Well, I'd leave a little less at least smile
Posted: Sat, 22nd May 2004, 3:13am

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My school actually has a really good TV studio. At the time it was made it was one of the first few in the US. We have ~6 $8k cameras for the TV and independant classes and about 6 newer multi-thousand dollar cameras for Comm. Systems(the prereq for TV). We would have no use for Chromy because we have this expensive multifunction machine that has incredible greenscreening(Aladdin). The video board used for TV is also really good(which includes greenscreaning).
Even if we did have any CSB products they probably wouldn't get much use. Sadly, despite all of the equipment we have, much of it isn't used to its full potental. We use DPS Velocity to edit video, which is a pretty good editing program($5000 for the card you need and the program[plus at least 2 thousand dollars for the other parts of the computer, which include 2 gigs of ram per computer and other awesome specs]). For pretty much every segment made the only commands they use are the slow down/speed up and the reverse commands. I was talking to a person in TV(I'm in comm systems) and he was like, "You HAVE to have reverse and change speed in EVERY segment." It is so annoying. There are only a few people in each grade that actually use stuff to its potential.


[/reply to question turned into a rant about idiot people in TV at my school]
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 12:39pm

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My school bought AlamDV2..My teacher loves what I can do with it. But he is a push-over for whatever I suggest buying..I got him to buy Vegas too. All we had was Premiere, and I dont really like premiere. Vegas on the other hand... biggrin
Posted: Thu, 10th Jun 2004, 11:14pm

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My school has a green screen room. But we dont have a film making class...its television production. The only thing the green screen is used for is to put "funny" images behind the "newscasters". Its an alright class, but its not about making films, its about news production. But then we have a film club which is barely active and has only about 10 members, but we try razz

And, to get on original topic, no we dont use any CSB products sad
Posted: Fri, 11th Jun 2004, 1:14am

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Colincsl,
Since when do schools in the US have the budget to buy all that expensive equipment. My school was so poor up until a year ago. My school is also so completely uncomputer savvy. They gave away all their 10 year old Macs for new Dell Dimensions, then traded those out for new iMacs. And when I asked if there were still any PCs left and what kind of video editing applications they had, this lady at the school tried to get all know-it-allish and told me that they didn't have PCs for video because the Macs had a special FinalmovieiCut Chip. What an idiot. Be grateful for what you have at your disposal.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jun 2004, 2:14am

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My school got rid of all the macs. We just have this one iMac sitting in the Faculty Conference Room. LOl, it was all dusty and such. No one had used it for 2 years now. We actually just unplugged the MacOS server so the iMac is going crazy trying to connect to servers. It actually tried to connect to our Windows Server 2003.

Heh, good old Apple. I was actually almost tempted to throw it out this afternoon when I was at work but my IT employer had told me, "...however tempting, someone may have use for it..."

Anyways, all the rest of the iMacs had been replaced with Dell Optiplexes. Kind of a neat set up if you think about it. Video Editing isn't a primary art at my school so our systems are very lousy. Currently, we have 3 Optiplexes at 1.9GHz 512MB RAM 80GB HD (60GB usable for ~10 students) Windows 2000 Pro running Adobe Premiere. Kinda sucks. I have to trade off with a high schooler for space on just this one computer and it stinks very much.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jun 2004, 2:18am

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it sad that schools sget such bad macs, sets a bad example to people about apple computers. I used to think macs were terrible because of school experience, but whe the new imacs came out, and the g4s, i tried em out, and liked them alot.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jun 2004, 2:26am

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For me, it was different. In my old school, we used to have iMacs as well. I actually loved the iMacs. But then, when I figured out that I can do much more with my old Sony VAIO like coding, etc., I got bored of Macs and fully made my switch over to PCs.

Going along with your post Brettsta, it's rather funny that in the US, there are barely any Apple commercials. There used to be tons of commercials, however now, I don't see any at all. I see basically Dell, Intel, Microsoft, Gateway, HP, but no Apple. This could probably contribute to why many people are less educated about the Mac world.

But then again, Macs have their high point in the Film production field. Microsoft likes to create products that directly target academic, home, and business users. And this 3:1 ratio brings over more business to the PC side.

Consider that. wink
Posted: Wed, 16th Jun 2004, 2:37am

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weird, i dont think ive ever seen a microsoft commercial. I see hp and dell alot, but thats about it. I dont see much advertising for apples actual computers, but plenty for the ipods.
Posted: Wed, 16th Jun 2004, 2:47am

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Haven't seen iPods. Microsoft sneaks their commercials in a bit. They don't actually have commercials for their products but for their company. Most of their commercials never seem like a Microsoft commercial at first because they look more like health care commercials.

But all in all, Microsoft has very effective advertisement.
Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2004, 10:27am

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the answer is NO or should i say not yet but i hope to if its going to be easy for students.

Now let me tell you a story.

I’m an ICT technician at a school and about a year ago I tried to get the head teacher to take on film making/media but nothing seemed positive I even put on a little short film sequence that got praise from the Governors, but nothing. Then in May I got another break, I was asked to put together a 10 minute compilation of flight for a visit by Astronaut Dick F Gordon to our school. I found it difficult to carry this work out at school so I asked if I could continue it at home since I had pinnacle studio. Anyway I did this, but I also ripped loads of sequences from movies as an intro for Dick. We had 4 shows a day for 3 days and the praise I got was unbelievable, I even got the British National Space Centre, praising my editing abilities, this seemed to kick things into gear. I was given the go ahead to run a media club and given 3 Grand for the computer video editing system alone. This was then followed up with the English Teacher discussing with me that she would trial just one year group in media this coming term.
Then in July the Art teacher asked me if I knew anything about animation (I won’t answer that…. I bluffed I only know basics) so we sat down with the students I showed them how to use a camera etc…. we did a bit of blue screen and POW! Its now been entered into a competition ART WEEK 2004 Guerrilla Films. If this at least gets recognised I can see more money being thrown at the media side at school/college.

So im sure if these programs are easy to use we will or should I say I will be looking to purchasing some once given a budget. But the question I have to ask is for me personally.
I now have Premiere pro and after effects….. would I need to purchase AlamDV and Chromanator?

Oh! One of the blokes I previously worked with is in a band called Zero Point. I said to him last xmas id make him a music video, his reply was “ No thanks Steve, its ok”

He asked me a few months back if id do it, I said yes and im working on it now…
He will put it on his site when I get it finished…. www.zeroed.org.uk
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 7:57pm

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spacevortex wrote:

I now have Premiere pro and after effects….. would I need to purchase AlamDV and Chromanator?
Chromanator: No
Alamdv: Yes

Chromanator is a compositing program that does similar stuff to After Effects, so you have no need for it. Alamdv is an effects program, though. Alamdv3 is slated to come out within the next few months, and it will have a lot of powerful features. I suggest looking at the Alamdv3 webchat transcript for more details.

http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15100
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 9:36pm

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I am going to be a junior, and i am going to show my school that i am the best filmmaker thier. i am taking Tv video class and film liteture. and i am in the film club. our shcool owns a panasonic DVXa100 and i am going to shoot a movie at school during the intire school year. so look forward to that movie. i am going writing a script and it is going to be a darker story, but you guys will love it.
any way i am getting my teacher to buy Alamdv2 and Chromanator. hehehe
school starts tommarow. wish me luck.
peace out
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 9:41pm

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Good luck! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2005, 6:39pm

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No but I was thinking of telling my form tutor who teaches media studies and uses Final cut pro, I think i'll mention it to him.

My school doesn't really have a film class but Media studies (for the 6form only) they discuss the technychs(sp) used in films Old and new. Also they are given cameras and have to make a short film using Final Cut Pro.
Posted: Tue, 8th Mar 2005, 6:45pm

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We know of a few schools who use our programs which is cool, and we hope to make this one of the biggest markets for us in the future.

AlamDV3, Chromanator 1.5 and DigiGrade all use an interface which is far more friendly than AlamDV1/2 and current Chromanator. This new interface is far more like other effects applications so its a much better stepping stone on to professional level applications (not that you'll need them if you have our programs).

We offer bulk discount prices to schools buying 10 copies or more which makes our new programs an inexpensive way for students to learn the skills they need to take on industry standard programs in the future.

Once the programs are out there should be a press pack for schools on the website and we hope you guys might print them out and hand them in to people at your school who might be interested smile
Posted: Fri, 18th Mar 2005, 2:38am

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My school has 280 people haha. We can't even buy a camera much less an editing software.
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AcjPictures wrote:

My school has 280 people haha. We can't even buy a camera much less an editing software.
What sort of school do you go to our school has about 250 students per year group.
Posted: Wed, 23rd Mar 2005, 10:33pm

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i go to a private school and it's like 20 kids rough per grade
Posted: Sat, 26th Mar 2005, 10:53pm

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My school bought alamdv2 cos i showed my ICT teacher the website he was so impressed he bought it that day. Its been invovled the curriclum (not spelt right) as an animation part of the video production unit of my course (shame all we have is movie maker!!!) He used it in our ski trip video and has asked me to do a lunchtime course on it.
Alam dv2 is pretty much a pimp program round my school
Posted: Wed, 30th Mar 2005, 8:58am

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Great to hear, Ruby! Thanks for introducing the program to your teacher. I hope he likes AlamDV3 too. smile
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Waser wrote:

my school is so poor...
Yup mine 2, we only have Windows Movie Maker 1 crazy
And we had Realsoft 3D, but no-one understands it...

It is an really normal 3D art program. But in Holland there aren't many guys who can do it...

And I want to go study it biggrin
Posted: Mon, 18th Apr 2005, 1:44pm

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we somtimes use Chromanator
Posted: Fri, 22nd Apr 2005, 8:29am

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Me and a mate are both own a copy of Alam Dv2 and my mate also has chromanator we have both made a great film with the software and showed several teachers at are college. We are trying to convince them to buy it but they don't seem to be moving and they didn't say no.

It would be really great for are BND Moving Image group and for the rest of the college.

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