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The Matrix Unspoken Teaser

Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 9:05am

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An early teaser for our upcoming June film, The Matrix Unspoken. This film will be our first full-length 'AlamDV' feature, and will run about 15 minutes. The clips leave much for the imagination, but here's a small spoiler: The story trails the events of a first-year trainee crew. Specs, a rebellious and quiet member is issued a seemingly easy assignment that turns into an intricate rescue mission filled with action, intruige, and betrayal. Starring Chase Arrington, Andrew Adams, and Andy Victor. I know the quality is near horrible, but please bear with me, we haven't got a permanent website up yet, so we're having to feed small files off of others.
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Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 8:30pm

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I think there was too much left up to imagination in this. It was only a few clips that didnt get me excited for the movie. Also, the spidy overlay in the beginning was kinda out of place (and stolen directly). The first few seconds were cool. Didnt get what was happening in the end.

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Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 8:53pm

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All I noticed was a low quality Spiderman 2 sound overlay, some matrix falling code, and some picture of an angle that i didnt really get.

The spiderman thing: I could see where you were going with that, but seeing as that is a trailer a lot of people are familiar with, it just didn't sound right.

It looks fairly enticing. I'll probably end up watching the full film just to see the quality (or lack of) of yet another matrix fanfilm. smile
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 12:49am

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Thanks for the pointers, Marek. The final movie won't dissappoint. We're working on some extra scenes that we can put in the DVD. One exclusive scene will be available online until the full movie is released, but i can't promise high quality- we're in a bit of a pickle as far as web hosting goes. (P.S. PLEASE RATE MY TRAILER! I don't want it to remain in the depths of the 'unrated' section forever.)
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 12:53am

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It updates at the end of the day. It doesnt mean it has not been rated, until day 2.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:32am

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Okay, yeah. First of all, if you're going to rip that off the spiderman trailer, use sound recorder to get it directly from your speakers. Second, you seriously need better web compression. The quality was so crappy I couldn't see at all what was going on. Get Quicktime Pro ($30) for this.

And third, this trailer needs more substance. The beginning would have been cool had it not been ripped from the spiderman trailer. But basically all this was was a bunch of random split-second shots. Really, there's nothing exciting here, but I do honor your attempt to create some good quick flashing shots.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:46am

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Well, I ORGINALLY used sound recorder, and it sounded perfect. But, when I produced it as an MPEG, my website wouldn't read it. So, I had to re-re-produce it one of my secondary programs. Plus, some of the clips were cut off. (So you're right, it is too random.) Just wait, 'cause this is only a TEASER, and NOT a trailer. Trailers are concise and have substance; teasers are solely for show. But really, my compression WAS great, it just got screwed up. Anyway, thanks for the tips and comments. Thank you for honoring my idea.
-Andrew
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:51am

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I also forgot to add a side note: I made this teaser more than 6 weeks ago, when the spiderman trailer was scarcely even on the INTERNET. I hadn't realized that it would be so obvious by the time I got it on FXHome.com. Sorry. smile
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:54am

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Dont be afraid to use the edit button smile
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 2:11am

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how? (Thanks for the tip anyway) I'm new. Well, 'Observer' for two years; 'Owner' for 2 months. hahahah
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 2:17am

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Up to the right of your posts

Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 3:57am

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Lloyd66,
It really isn't fair to say that the spiderman sound clip doesn't add to it. You just have to think of it being used in a different way. For instance, tons of people make trailers that practically mimic others, (see 'Toy Wars') and personally I still think it looks great. I CAN however, agree with you on my video quality. It's a compressing error. (it won't happen again) But, I warned that the quality was "near horrible", so please don't come back and tell me it's crappy. Okay? Sorry to be so liberal. Thanks for the remarks.
-Andrew
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 5:45am

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Thanks again for your criticism. I understand your frustration. I myself thought that the end of the trailer looked a bit awkward. You'll notice that the quality of this trailer varies greatly from our Adams Bros. Films Essential Collection II TV Spot. There was an error with the Matrix Trailer. Also, this really isn't a teaser nor trailer, it includes split-second scenes NOT in the movie (teaser) and split-second scenes that ARE in the movie (trailer).

If you're interested in critiquing the TV Spot, you can view it here:

http://fxhome.com/cinema/info_cache/movieinfo1295.html

You might like it better than this trailer. Or you might not. Whatever. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Also, please rate the film if you watch it. Preferably a high rating, as high ratings promote better self-esteem for me, and better self-esteem makes for better films. Consider that before you give a mouthful to someone whose film you disliked.

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Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 11:36am

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ben3308 wrote:

please rate the film if you watch it. Preferably a high rating, as high ratings promote better self-esteem for me, and better self-esteem makes for better films.
Actually if everyone did that, then you would know the ratings aren't what the movie is really worth, therefore you would get 5 and be on the top 10 but not be sure if it was for real, or just because they wanted to "promote better self-esteem" for you.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 3:32pm

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i agree...
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 5:40pm

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Okay. That was just an idea. I understand what you mean. I won't give anymore hypothetical observation.
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 8:00pm

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There was nothing in this 'teaser' that made me even want to see the movie. When you make a 'teaser' you need to put something that 'teases' your viewer. If its just clips stolen from other movies or sound bites, and a few seconds of close ups and nothing more...then its not a 'teaser' its just a 42 second short worth nothing.
When Dominion released Psychosis we got bashed like crazy for the Matrix voiceover we used...and after that I will NEVER again use anything that is not my own. Don't steal a voice over, even if it fits your story...people don't like it, it’s a sign of being uncreative. Spend a little more time, and make your own.

1 of 5.
Sorry I rate the videos on how well they are, not on your self-esteem.
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 8:52pm

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Also, voting a five on your own film to make it look good is stupid. You're just making it look bad. And getting your friends to vote fives on it is pretty dumb too...
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 3:31am

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I did it when I was so proud of myself for getting it on the internet, but after the incredible ammount of negative feedback on the spidey voiceover (which, by the way, really isn't SOOOO bad) I don't think I'll ever do it again. But I guess I understand why y'all think its so horrible to add it in. Anyways, thanks for your comments. I won't do it again. (Even though I thought I recreated the voiceover with my own clips pretty well.)
But really, I understand.
Thanks, Andrew


(This is my second video to post, so I haven't quite narrowed down the way to transfer the video or how the internet community will react to it.)
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 9:44am

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i'll just go right into it...

the good:

nothing.

the bad: editing.

the ugly: The worst compression ive seen on this site (especially for the size), yet ANOTHER matrix fan film featuring guys with mop haircuts showing off there new airsoft guns, the extremely crappy spiderman trailer announcer.


Also, you said you put those sounds in before the trailer was big. Im not sure you realized how much money and notoriety the first one has gotten, but anyone could tell you that the sequel would very very obviously be seen by everyone and there mom fairly fast.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 6:57pm

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Bryce007,
I started working on a simple yet enticing trailer yesterday, but the power in my notebook went out due to power surge. Expect to see a better trailer soon. This one, I agree, didn't particularly anything good; whereas it had several things that were bad. I also agree that the editing was a sham. Nothing that I've posted on this site so far has been a proper portrayal of what type of filmmaker I am. I have several, several, several great films that do not use AlamDV; hence I am not able to share them on this site. Also, I do not have a domain, and the only webspace I have is about two dozen geocities, freewebs, tripod, and zed sites that have only 10mb of space. Henceforth I am not able to give links to my other movies. Expect great things. Soon. Hopefully.
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 1:20am

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wow... that sounded a little cocky... several, several, several great films eh? wink
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 3:08pm

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sorry. I worded that wrong. I have several films AND several great films. Not several, several,several great films. Im not THAT cocky.
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 8:54pm

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haha, nah, its not the amount of "great" films that made it sound cocky. Its just the fact that u said "Great" films.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 3:15am

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ah, come on, be nice.
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atom wrote:

I also forgot to add a side note: I made this teaser more than 6 weeks ago, when the spiderman trailer was scarcely even on the INTERNET. I hadn't realized that it would be so obvious by the time I got it on FXHome.com. Sorry. smile
LMAO! Sure, Spider-Man 2 is only one of the BIGGEST release of the summer. Surely nobody would've heard of it in six weeks...

Also, when you rip effects from other Marvel trailers (Punisher in this instance) try to at least EDIT it properly. We can still see flash frames of the Punisher through it...

I can see where you got the idea that you make "great" films if you (badly) rip half of your stuff from Hollywood flicks...

As for your so-called teaser: some of the worst editing I've seen in a while...

Some nicely framed shots and some atrociously done as well...

Hard to tell the movie's worth between the rip-offs and the dismal editing...
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004, 1:49am

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Shut up! I dont take any of your comments as advice JC!
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What a great idea, ignore the helpful insight of one of the only feature length directors around here, with years of experience.

Maybe I should try that. Or not would be the way to go. cool
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Hey Marek, if you don't find some level of bias in JohnCarter's comments, then you're truly an idiot. Take Aculag for example: His films are great, but JC always finds some flaw in them, sime way to criticize them, helpful or not. JohnCarter may be a feature length film director, but that still doesn't change the fact that he's a jerk.

Marek wrote:

What a great idea, ignore the helpful insight of one of the only feature length directors around here, with years of experience. cool
JohnCarter is ignored because of his overly critical comments, which seldom pertain to any advice from his experience in filmmaking. In this case though, Marek, you may be right about JC's insight.

JohnCarter, I still think you're a jerk, but I know that my personal opinions of people as a person shouldn't interfere with my opinions of people as a filmmaker (e.g. Whatever I may think of you as a person doesn't change the fact that you are a good filmmaker and may have good advice for people), and thus I must say that you did say that some of the shots were framed nicely and that the editing was atrocious. I thank you for that. I framed all the shots and atom edited. So in this case you're absolutely right about the editing, especially during the second half of the trailer. We both took a crack at editing the second half of the trailer (after the Spidey soundtrack) with the clips that we had at the time (which was about 1/5 of the overall movie) and no matter what music track we added or how we edited it, it still didn't seem quite right, so, we just took the edit that we and a couple of screeners thought was the best and uploaded it. So thank you all for your criticism so far and you can expect things to come in the near future from Adams Bros. Films!
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004, 4:52am

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I apreciate your crude sarcasm Marek, but I prefer to branch off on my own, and learn from my own mistakes. Personally, as a filmmaker, I don't really respect JohnCarter, he seems to overdue his criticism, even when the flaws he mentions have already been conversed. He also seems to pick on those such as Aculag, and find every single flaw and milk them for all their worth. It's sickening. That's why I got angry. I knew he was gonna bash me sometime or another. I dont want to get into this. The conversation over the film is far over, and JC coming back with a handful of negative comments isn't helpful, especially when other people have already mentioned them. I'm very independent, so it doesn't really mean anything to me for you to say take advice from a feature length, money-making director. I'd rather have advice from those who have the same passion I do. (Those like Andreas, The Ho Brothers, MechaForce, Sidewinder, Aculag, CX3, ajjax, ssjaaron etc.)
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004, 5:01am

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Who said JC doesn't have a passion for filmmaking? He obviously has a great passion for it to drop thousands upon thousands of dollars to create independent films. Sure he is overly critical of people, and he is very biased. But you would be too if you were at his level, looking at people trying their hardest to get to where you are at. He may be full of himself, I don't know.

Having not met him in person, rather seen text written by him on an internet forum, I can't make any judgements on his character or person, and I don't plan to. Everyone is biased one way or another. You're biased toward your movie because it's your movie. He's biased against it for his own reasons. Other people are biased either for or against it for whatever reasons float their boat.

My point is, you don't have to pay attention to anything he writes, but I'm guessing he wasn't far from your level at some point in his career, and I'm positive he knows what he's talking about. Just my thoughts.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004, 6:00am

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Marek wrote:

but I'm guessing he wasn't far from your level at some point in his career, and I'm positive he knows what he's talking about.
Having not seen any of our films- only two trailers, possibly -you have no idea of our skill level. We could be up there with JohnCarter. just kiddin marek, we're cool.