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Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 9:48am

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A short film where the word crazy is for everything, the actors, the editing, the action sequence, the humor and finally the short film itself...take the time to look the action scene and you'll see...

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Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 9:59am

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Great: Editing, Camera work, soundeffects, use of effects
Good: Music, actors crasy look to them, humour

I really like the look, but the thing is I don't get a word you say!
but think of it this way, I was glued to the monitor and didn't get a word you say, which mean you did a good job!

Would be nice to see a version with subtitles!

Great work!
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 10:07am

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I agree with Andreas - a version with subtitles would be great. The style of this was very dynamic and engaging, made it good fun to watch even without knowing what was happening. The actors also looked good, treading a fine line to get the right amount of 'crazy'.
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 10:24am

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This is really good. I actually saw your webiste a few days back & was very impressed. Some very nice flash animation & Minority Report style smile

Anyway, very nice. Shots & editing were great, with a nice style. Story was dark but humourous. Some good twists. Subtitles would be good, as I didn't understand some, especially the speeded up dialogue (another nice style). Understood most of it though. Sound was good, with clear dialogue & use of sound effects.

Look forward to more work by you as you have a more professional feel to your films which is only shared by a few on this site.

Oh yeah, wacky style a bit reminiscent of Baz Luhrmann...sweet

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Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 1:28pm

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can you please make a WMV version or a .mov version of this movie. thanks.
peace out
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 1:40pm

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Yeah this was particularly good. I speak very small amounts of french (about enough to live...for a few days at least), so it made a little sense to me; however you don't really need to understand the words to get the gist of what was hapenning. I guess this is down to some good acting.

It was clear your main character was messed up, from all his gesturing (oh, and random shooting!) and for some reason he reminded me of May Payne, not sure why tho razz There were also smacks of Brad Pitt in "12 monkeys" too.

The camera work was largely very good, although the scene where you first introduced the guy was rather over-cut: after the first second or two of quick cuts and closeups, it got irritating.

I felt it was a little *too* dark throughout. I'm sure it was meant to be dark, but i had some trouble picking out what was going on some of the time.
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 2:56pm

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He reminded me of Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Even had a similar jacket. smile
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:03pm

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Rating: +1

I'd really like to watch this, but I can't get the avi to play on my mac. I've tried every player, but it won't work... sad
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:07pm

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Aculag, i have the same problem. and from the looks of it, this short looks pretty good. please make a .mov version of this.
thank you
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Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:08pm

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Have you tried the Windows Media Player for mac?
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:28pm

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Yes, and it says "Invalid File Format"
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:32pm

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It may be a DivX file, not sure, this is worth checking out if you haven't got it
http://www.divx.com/divx/mac/
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:34pm

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Nope, I've got that.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:51pm

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Well, it's a codec I've never heard of before - DV Giga AVI - & I've tried searching for it on google, but the only site that could be any help is in Japanese. No one speaks that round here, do they? lol

Last suggestion, try this

http://mac.tucows.blueyonder.co.uk/preview/288365.html

Best to get MMMProd to compress the file in Quicktime format.

MMMProd, could you do this?
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:52pm

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Heh. Yes, MMMProd, we're in dire need of a quicktime file here.

MPlayer is usually the one that plays files like this. All I get is sound with this one, though.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:56pm

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Im getting only sound with Windows eek
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 8:05pm

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Brettsta, you should be able to view it if you download the K-Lite codec pack here

http://www.k-litecodecpack.com/
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 9:56pm

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Im about to watch this movie, ill tell u what i think. Just by the look of the Pic of the movie, it looks pretty tight.

Aculag, have u tried using VLC? Works perfectly for me.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 9:57pm

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CX3 - I'll try it.

EDIT: Nope.. Doesn't work.
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 12:12pm

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Okay guys i will place a .mov file sorry for the lack of feedback my computer was down ...
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 12:12pm

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Okay guys i will place a .mov file sorry for the lack of feedback my computer was down ...

The file are coded in WMV9 and it should works with Windows Media PLayer ( the last version )

What is more as i see that a lot of people are interested with the movie i will place with this .mov file english subtitles because the film is in french !

Wait and see
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 1:03pm

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I did not see the point in this movie! (Maybe because I don't understand the language) Did not like a thing in this movie really, did not see the story! Well, you better come out with a subtitled movie!
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 1:11pm

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that's what i'm currently doing ...
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 1:30pm

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Even though I didn't understand much, I really enjoyed this film!
Subtitles would be great, so I can understand the film too wink
Anyway, the camerawork was VERY exciting and well-used!
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 1:34pm

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If you're getting subtitles to the movie, I will watch it again! I think the story is good, after wath I saw the camerawork was well done!
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 6:39pm

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Franchement bravo bravo, il est nikel ton film ( le scénario, les plans de caméra.....). Continu comme ca, et on aura peu etre un nouveau spealberg
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Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 7:03pm

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MIKA: Il s'appelle Spielberg wink
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 7:45pm

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See the fact that the mac users can't watch this is another reason that mac's suck...right?

I thought that is was good over all, of course I didn't know what was going on, but it kept my attention all the way through. Beautiful camera work, that was amazing. Sounds were even good, you did a great job, I'm not going to rate this movie until I see the verison with subtitles. But great work, I was impressed.

Hey what kinda of steady cam did you use? That had to have been some of the smoothest camera work I have ever seen on this web-site.

Great work!
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 7:49pm

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Please, don't start a Mac debate, especially in someone's film forum...
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 9:35pm

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The steadycam is a Glidecam V8 .
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I'm still coding the film, but in quicktime format it's very big so i'm trying, different rates and codec, don't worry i will finish shortly...
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 9:52pm

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I watched this finally. Good looking footage. Since I don't speak french, I have no idea what the plot is. I won't rate it until I see it with subtitles.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 12:40am

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Mellifluous wrote:

Please, don't start a Mac debate, especially in someone's film forum...
Sorry, I was just simply stating a simple fact.

That steady cam is insane! $2,899.95 dollars? I think I'll stick with something a little bit cheaper. Dang.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 1:37am

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Okay I've just put two new version of the film with english subs !
One in the DIVX format for MAC users and the others
and another WMV9 format

Just wait for the approval process of FXhome and you'll watch it
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 2:10am

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Outstanding! Outstanding! Outstanding! I need no subtitles to rate this a solid FIVE.
Outstanding cinematography! You had excellent camera movements without it being distracting. Great angle! Sound was excellent. Editing was superb! I love the freeze frame when Seth shot the weapon and the other effects was good. Although, it’s probably intelligent and fair to understand what they say and wait until as subtitle version comes out to rate the film, I was compelled to rate this no other than a solid FIVE. Although I could not understand that tongue, I felt I can follow the story. I attribute that to great acting and superb editing. I’m impress and envious simultaneously. In my opinion, these film deserve nothing less than a four. I am disappointed, to notice how some raters judged this film when I compare their rating with obviously weaker films.

mmmprod, “much respect!” Superb job! But I have to mention, I was surprise to notice you have rated your own film. In my eyes, this does not display the excellent professionalism you demonstrated in your film.

I know this next question is too general, but I’m a still in shock from watching your film. Any tips you can offer a beginner? (i.e. websites, books, etc)

How much did your Glidecam V8 cost?

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Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 9:45am

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That was....different.

The good:

lighting, smooth camera movement when panning, acting, effects, most of the editing.

the bad:

couldn't understand language or reason for things happening, some really overdone editing (similar to when people get new airsoft guns and have to show them off), some random camera jerks while stationary.

the ugly:

the dudes quasi-chris isaak-esque mullet.


Still, enjoyed it quite abit. What kind of camera are you using?
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 10:15am

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-Yes i rated the film because of one fact: the numerous changes i made in the movie managment section - i wanted to keep it alive until i put the subtitled version - that's it...

-For the rest i don't use any book, i'm making ffilm since i'm 9 but, of course, I made a filmschool here in France, it's an international film school you can take a look here www.eicar.fr

-The glidecam V8 with all options ( because you have to include important options ) cost me 4500 $

-I'm using a CANON XL1 with a Wide Angle Lens

-Wait' for the subtitle before to rate it, a keep in mind that this short film is just a test film made one night in one hour !

-BTW, thank a lots for all your comments !
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 5:58pm

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The short film is opened again, enjoy it with the ENGLISH SUBS ! wink
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 6:26pm

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That DivX file isn't working for me... it fails to open in DivX & crashes Windows Media Player when I try to play it in that...anyone else having this problem?
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 6:39pm

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Works for me, on mac. Dunno about windows though.

I have to say that I don't like this one much. It looks good, yes, but the story is bad. I can't really comment on the acting, since I don't speak french, and therefore don't know what they would be like if they were acting poorly/well. I really don't think the steadycam stuff is that great. It seems like you (or whoever operated it) is pretty new to it, so I think a lot more practise would be good.

So yeah, as movies on here go, it's good looks wise, and there are some pretty shots, but it's not really above par on anything else.
Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 10:35pm

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For the steadycam
you have to keep in mind that i wanted to keep the "balancing feeling" that's why it's turning everywhere (lol)
But the fact is that it's just a glidecam not a steadycam so, it's not as precise - a steadycam cost 100000 $ and a glidecam cost 4000$ it's not the same thing

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Posted: Fri, 28th May 2004, 11:02pm

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I still cant view it, ha, Aculag.. what did u use to play it with??
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 2:13am

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it's a simple divx codec so normally you can view it with divx player or bsplayer
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 9:41pm

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mmmprod wrote:

For the steadycam
you have to keep in mind that i wanted to keep the "balancing feeling" that's why it's turning everywhere (lol)
But the fact is that it's just a glidecam not a steadycam so, it's not as precise - a steadycam cost 100000 $ and a glidecam cost 4000$ it's not the same thing

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But even with a steadicam it takes a lot of practise to make it really smooth. It's not going to be perfect right away.
Posted: Mon, 31st May 2004, 1:05pm

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you're right .
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Aculag wrote:

I have to say that I don't like this one much. It looks good, yes, but the story is bad. I can't really comment on the acting, since I don't speak french, and therefore don't know what they would be like if they were acting poorly/well. I really don't think the steadycam stuff is that great. It seems like you (or whoever operated it) is pretty new to it, so I think a lot more practise would be good.

So yeah, as movies on here go, it's good looks wise, and there are some pretty shots, but it's not really above par on anything else.
How can you say the camera wasn't smooth? It was amazingly smooth! I was very impressed with the camera work. This movie should get a 5 just for the cinematography work, the story might suck, and the acting as well (so you say)...but you can't say that the camera work wasn't good. I guess to each his own is clearly understood and I'll leave it at that.
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I never said it wasn't smooth. I said it could be a lot better. It's smoother than a lot of stuff here, but it's not perfect by far.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 8:49pm

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thx for your support calibretto !

Aculag you totally right, but it was just a small test i made in my garage with all my familly (lol) one night, and for the steadycam moves, i think it could be better with a glidecam but with a lot and a lot of practicing because the glidecam is not very stable...
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Next time i will put a movie without steadycam moves, lol
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I would have to agree with Calibretto when I say the camera work wasn't too great. Sure in some parts the "shaking" needed to be there so it would add more effect but when u said, "It was amazingly smooth!" I would like to know the parts that were the amazingly smooth parts because I didn't see them.
Also, one part I didn't get was at first "Seth" said he hated it when people ran from him yet when the lady was behind him, he ran like mad. Sure I would probably run from her too but still...

you get a 1 out of 5
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shaunathonoramatron wrote:

I would like to know the parts that were the amazingly smooth parts because I didn't see them.
you get a 1 out of 5
The whole thing!! You go watch some of the other movies that have been posted, and you tell me if the camera work in this short is not smooth.
Aculag, I don't know how you can say that this didn't have good camera work, the motion in Seth is better than I've seen in some of your shorts. I don't understand.
Also I think you're thinking of Aculag.

Maybe I'm alone in my opinion, but this moive should be a 4 AT LEAST!!! For just the cinematography work!!
For a NON-PROFESSIONAL web-site, this short had some of the VERY best cinematography work I've seen in a long time.
To Each His Own I guess.
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redface redface redface redface redface
thx
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Don't listen to em, the camerawork ruled! Sometimes u lost framing cuz of the glidecam (i have one too, and i know the troubles that can come from it) but I didn't mind. Beautifully shot and I absolutely LOVE the depth of field...how did you acheive it? What camera+lens system u using?

Oh, I suggest you resubtitle the film and change "fucked" into "wasted". When translated to english the way it is...it sounds very bad and queer. lol
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Tarn wrote:

He reminded me of Brad Pitt in Fight Club. Even had a similar jacket. smile
Yup, I got a Fight Club feel from this as well. I even think the chase music is in FC, no?
Posted: Sat, 12th Jun 2004, 9:35am

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You're right all the musics used in the film are taken from FC wink

I'm using a wide angle lens with the camera that gives a very good deph especially when you shoot with a steadycam because the camera is able to see the sides and this only give that speed feeling

For the translation i will do it wink I posted the film in french and i recieved more than 50 mails asking me to put a translation so i made ASAP and perhaps too fast lol
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Okay, first of all, i saw this after i checked no!, wich is 4th in my top ten, i think.
I loved no!, still, i prefer Seth.

Why?
1. Although it doesn't have the clean 35mm quality, it presents an indie feeling, that i really enjoy, and it can be seen that it was something you really got kicks from doing (your creation from the begining, if i'm not mistaken).
2. The actor kicks butt. It's the same guy from no!, but with more space to develop his character and improvise. I believe a good director can make a good actor become excellent. Congrats, you have definitely achieved it.
3. Some of the posts here criticize the shaky camera. I loved it (take one small scene or two). I really dig the movements and the flow you did in this one.
4. The lighting is very nice. In some scenes excelent, in others not so goood, but overall, and considering you used only the already existing lights (correct?) in the garage scenes, awesome job.

Well, that did it for me.

2 fine shorts, no! and this one.
5/5, nuff said. Keep up the job.

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I liked this one... especially the interrogation scenes where he talks to himself or so kinda. and I liked the moment when he panicks because of the woman... and shoots her... lol

the camera work was sometimes too crazy... reminded me of some crazy french action flicks.

I gave it 3 because I couldn't rate it 3.5... but nice work for one hour shooting.

oh by the way... excellent actor.
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Yeah, this was greate! It wasn't so crazy, whould be greate with a head shot that made someones head explode!! (I'm a huge Conker fan)
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THIS IS THE BEST ARTISTIC MOVIE ON THIS SITE. HANDS DOWN..

maybe a little TOO much like fight club tho?

sunglasses, skitzophrenia, red jacket, music - BUT STILL TIGHT
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Thank again all of you for all this compliments
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and thats one BIG ASS MUZZLE FLASH!!
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I don't think this movie is anything to really write home about, although as far as I can tell the acting suits it... the soundtrack and even parts of the storyline are taken directly from Fight Club, almost to an extent that you could call this movie "Fight Club au paris".

Saying this though, the editing was quite fresh and in places rather nicely done, however... there was quite alot of excessive "swooshing". You know what I'm talking about here "Im reaching for my flies" swoooooosh "im unzipping my flies" sowwwwwwooooosh "im peeing on my copy of the Matrix" sweeeoooosh. And at points it became a little ridiculous.

Overall this movie is some nice (as far as I can tell) acting mixed up with some adventurous editing which is to be commended. Good stuff.
Posted: Thu, 21st Oct 2004, 8:42am

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WhateverMan QB

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that was beautiful, when did alamdv (fxhome become pro) ??? alot of these guy talking poo have you forgot the stupid star war sucky movies that people post on here... this is without a question a 5 out of 5 looked very good
you people kill me who nitpick at something with this quality.

it is not even on the same level as 90% of the crap on here!
Posted: Sat, 18th Dec 2004, 2:13am

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nanafanboy

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Best Short I have seen on the site so far. Pure entertainment
Posted: Mon, 10th Jan 2005, 10:58pm

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trevinator13

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I find it highly amusing that all of your votes on other peoples films never get more than a 4, and rarely that even, yet you stroke your own ego by giving your film a 5...the only 5 you have ever given a film.
Posted: Wed, 12th Jan 2005, 2:28am

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mmmprod

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tard
Don't be so rude with me I made a simple mistake by voting for my film.
I already contact Tarn to change my note but It was too late. I also received many messages to ask why I put a 5 to my film, so I repeat it here:

IT WAS A SIMPLE MISTAKE !! I was pretty new to the site and didn't know how it worked...

For your other question, I will never put a 5 to a film as I will never put a 0 to a film. And I'm really rude with films, you are totally right, but
for me a good short film is has a 3, a fabulous one has a 4.
The note 5 is only reserved for outsantding work, a short very amazing, as for the film "405" !
Even in my ow site my notes are very rude, take a look and you will see
(in the forum)

For the rest thank you for you greetings anyway
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 1:47am

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trevinator13

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so which is it? A simple mistake-or an attempt to keep it alive as you stated earlier. I think some of us should get our "story " straight. And you say "don't be so rude with me"...and then you say I'm right-that you are a "rude" person who is rude with his own notes on his own site???Wow, dude, let's stop the hypocrisy.
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 3:01pm

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mmmprod

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Man, i Think you really pissed off about something and I think this thing it is me... So I won't continue this discution, that will bring us to something which has no effective sense with cinema and art...

I tried to explain in my previous post that this is my way to note films and I know that it can be strange and especially when I've done the big mistake: putting a note "5" on my own movie but I'm not the only one doing this, putting strange notes, if you just might take a look on other users instead of throwing tomatoes on me you will notice that a lot of people put strange notes...this is a way, for them, to keep their film at the Top of the list and in my opinion I think it's totally nice...
Why nice ?... I tell you what...something that deserve to be in my post, something that fit with cinema and art and deal with passion

They so much love what they do, cinema and that's why I understand when they put very strange notes...Because when you've made something with your own finger, even a small amator movie, you want it to be seen by most of the people around here,... and putting strange notes or fighting to defend his movie, all this, is called Passion and I can everything beside with that... and that's why I'm not going to throw tomatoes to a guy who put a "1" to my film whereas 90% of the people put a "5" and understand that it don't like my movie and that's it...

But I want tp precise something before ending this long post. For my notes, I compared the film as they were real film, why?
I give a real note to someone who deserve to know exactly what I really think to his movie and thus in order to force him making something better again and that's why I don't put 5 everywhere, everytime,...Am I rude doing this ?...Yes I'm terribly rude... Especially when I put 80$ a month just in order to show other's film on internet with my site and thus without earning any cents...

Anyway, man thanks for your comments, there are very nice but if you still want to fight just send private message because your post now have no sense with artitic work, and this forum is not a bowing room.
I will be glad to reply to all of your email but not here

Peace man,....peace....
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 4:27pm

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ben3308

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mmmprod, I completely disagree with what trevinator said. As an avid viewer of your films, I must say that 'No!' is the best short film I hae seen in my life. Ever. I have shown 'No!" and 'Today we just change channel' AND 'Seth' to hundreds of people- seriously, I was at a party, and we all got together and watched al your films -and everyone agrees that your films are the best they've seen anywhere. So when someone comes and speculates on your voting process, disregard it. Yoiu're entitled to your vote. You paid for a gold user account and it's up to you and you only to vote for what you think is fair. People can challenge your vote, but its you decision, not theirs. Your films are top notch, my gfood man. Keep makin 'em!
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 4:57pm

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mmmprod

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Thank you ben, it is really nice from you. I really appreciate that
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 8:38pm

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Mellifluous

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Yep, People getting hung up over voting for your own film should get a life. What I object to are people who just rate their films 5 to go higher up in the Cinema on fxhome, & the movie is obviously complete cr*p. But if you vote as self-assessment I see nothing wrong with it. I voted 4 on my own movie razz (& didn't get dissed on)