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DAY AFTER TOMORROW USES terregen

Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 6:15pm

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Hi
( forgive me if you know this already )
I was watching a exclusive on D.A.T and the specail effects lady ( yeah lady ) was talking about the snow scene and said, "I wasn't sure how we was going to do it, I looked a terregen that does landscapes and said to roland we don't need to go to the south pole we can use terregen,"
and so a blue screen was used with a bit of snow and the background was...... terregen ( a free software program )


Wow... i'm shocked.
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 6:19pm

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b4uask30male wrote:

Wow... i'm shocked.
Me too...has Terragen improved loads over the last couple of years?

Last time I used it, it certainly wasn't up to feature film quality. Although it was very cool, if rather barren. smile
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 6:20pm

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Quality. I own the registered version as it's such great value for free, it's good to support the maker.

It really produces brilliant photorealistic animations, & when you learn to understand it completely it is awe-inspiring what can be achieved (look out for my next Alam film for an illustration...)

Thanks for sharing this, +1

There's a new version planned apparently

http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/tgd/tgd.html

Quote:
“We used a photorealistic scenery rendering software program called Terragen™, which was actually developed by Digital Domain,” says Goulekas, “to help us create all the landscapes of Antarctica.".

Is it developed by Digital Domain? I didn't know that. They're James Cameron's company...
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 7:08pm

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I didnt know that.
Was the lady from ILM?
If she was its strange that they used Terragen eek
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 7:43pm

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Anyone with sky movies check it out it's on sky movies 7 ( repeats a lot ) i recorded mine last night but it's on again tonight.

mel wrote.

Is it developed by Digital Domain? I didn't know that. They're James Cameron's company...

i didn't know that, surpised old James would allow it to be free then. ?
Worth downloading again before they stick a price on it.
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 7:49pm

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As far as I know, James Cameron and Digital Domain parted ways a fair while back.
Posted: Tue, 25th May 2004, 8:07pm

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Duh, silly me...I'll always associate DD with Cameron...

Yes, download it...

They're planning on reprogramming Terragen from scratch, apparently, using a new engine (sound familiar? smile )

They will still have demos but perhaps not as good as Teragen's current version (it's virtually the complete product, except you can render slightly bigger landscapes with the registration file). They do say though that they want to keep up the tradition of providing a good demo.

I'm excited about the new Terragen - they say it will be able to render entire planets (maybe a small universe?). Also, it will have trees & boulders. Just think of how you could get the camera to explore a bit of landscape & then zoom out & out.

Edit: it is made by a guy who works/worked for Digital Domain. In fact, in 2002 (don't know why I missed this) he announced that he was developing features for a "limited audience". One can only conclude he meant cinematic special effects divisions.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:43am

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I want to make a test animation with terragen. How can i do that? I don't see any mention of that in the help file.

Shadu
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 1:47am

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Shadu log on to MSN. I'll tell you.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 6:26am

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You know pooky, if you posted the answer here i know i'd think it's worth a rate point.
And i'm sure lots of people could use the info.

please smile
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:15am

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Terragen...
available here..

To create animations you will also need to download one of the scripter add ons (Campath or terranim)

Basic steps...

1) Use Terragen to create a terrain you are happy with.
1.a) Save this terrain.

2) Open up terranim or campath

3) create a motion path for the camera, you can use both a motion path (for the camera movement) and a lookat path (where the camera is pointing)
3a) choose the directory and filename to save the output as.

4) save this path as a terragen script

5) go back to Terragen and set up your render options (Size, quality, atmosphere, water etc....)

6) select "animation" from the main screen, that will start rendering the scene as per your script

an example is here
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 11:24am

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b4uask30male wrote:

You know pooky, if you posted the answer here i know i'd think it's worth a rate point.
And i'm sure lots of people could use the info.

please smile
Heh. Urm well ok...

Tutorial 1

Tutorial 2

Tutorial 3

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Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 11:30am

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If they did use Terragen I'm sure they just used it for a mesh which they then added loads of elements to and animated in Maya or XSI. There won't have been any final rendering for the film done in Terragen itself I doubt - this will have been done by something like Metal Ray.

Unless there are just scenes with nothing but snow I can't see that Terragen would have been used for the rendering but its still cool that it got used at all.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 11:40am

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That would actaully be cool if Terragen was a plugin to Maya and XSI. Then it would be easier to integrate the Terragen generated meshes and add textures and advanced lighting, etc.

But I guess the filmmakers probably just exported the mesh as Schwar said and imported it into Maya and XSI. Terragen does create some jagged edges when animating...
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 6:56pm

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Don't know whether anyone's noticed this on the Terragen site...this is what I was talking about earlier

http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/tgd/tgd_mars_movie.html
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:05pm

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Yeah that mars movie is pretty amazing. They need a mac version!
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:06pm

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Do you mean this?

http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/mac/downloadmac.shtml

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Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:09pm

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That mars movie is prtetty awesome!
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:19pm

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If they did use Terragen I'm sure they just used it for a mesh which they then added loads of elements to and animated in Maya or XSI. There won't have been any final rendering for the film done in Terragen itself I doubt - this will have been done by something like Metal Ray.

Unless there are just scenes with nothing but snow I can't see that Terragen would have been used for the rendering but its still cool that it got used at all.
That is exactly what I wanted to say.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:20pm

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Mellifluous wrote:

Do you mean this?

http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen/mac/downloadmac.shtml
Wow... You're my hero. Now tell me why I was convinced that terragen was only for windows...
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:23pm

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I would really be useful if terragen was a plugin for XSI or Maya. Because I use XSI and I would love to be able to bring the terragen mesh and textures into XSI.
Posted: Wed, 26th May 2004, 7:23pm

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wink

Unfortunately, the majority of these good free progs are...
Posted: Thu, 27th May 2004, 12:43pm

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Yep, several film companies have used Terragen. It's a great program and can produce very realistic results.
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 2:03am

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Wow, those are stunning results!! Just one question, will it still be freeware?

EDIT: Freeware as in, will the demos still offer some useful functionality? Also, how much is the registered version?
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 8:45am

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I can't speak for the makers of course.

But the current Terragen is a hybrid of freeware & commercial product. The free version is superb, & you can do a lot with it if you download Campath (animation script) & a couple of other free plugins.

The free version cannot do what that animation does, namely zoom out of a planet, though maybe it could be done if you manage to import a spherical terrain. As far as I know though, you can only animate through the terrain (in any way you like), so it's fantastic for LOTR style sweeping mountain shots, Superman flying shots or plane shots.

I'm currently using it for my next film, using a lot of diferent landscapes. It would be interesting to use Terragen with Chromanator to do shots like the LOTR high shots of characters walking across snowy mountains etc

As mentioned earlier, the only limitation of the free version is it has a maximum terrain you can create, about half the size of the registered version.

I think it costs $49...

The new versions will be a lot more expensive by the sounds of things. They're bringing out 3 different versions at different prices. Registered users can get $80 off the new products when they come out; that alone suggests it will be pretty dear. But they do say that they will keep a free, non commercial version that is pretty fully functional, rather than time expirations or watermarks.
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 6:05pm

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Ah, I'm going to go buy it then.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2004, 3:38am

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Hey I got terragin and that animator but when Terragin goes to animate, the renders are mostly black and it only renders the top portion of hte image! Any ideas as to what the problem is?
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2004, 5:30am

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One interesting way of using the current version Terragen and Campath that I've found while messing around with it is as follows --

Create an interesting landscape, and then render a "freefall" animation over it. Using the free version of Terragen, Campath, and thru adjustment of the camera path and speed, you can get some pretty good looking video as the point of view drops straight down. I've managed to create some useable segments with this method. Although the current Terragen does produce barren looking landscapes, it's not very obvious while viewing it from altitude.

Combined with some greensceen footage of an actor in a falling pose ( for my first attempt at this, I built a little support to lay on that was hinged so it would allow me to pivot around a bit, then wrapped it with green cloth ), fire up Chromanator, and it's possible to create some "freefall" clips that aren't too bad.

I'm going to work some more with this method when I can find the time...I'd like to suspend my actor (that'd be me, I suppose) over a greenscreen floor for a try at a more realistic looking clip.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004, 2:44am

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Maya? XSI?

How about 3dsmax? razz

http://www4.discreet.com/3dsmax/3dsmax.php?id=736