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Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 5:08pm

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MarkB

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Just a couple of comments, I spent a very frustrating evening with Chromanator last night and have come away with a couple of lessons learned.

1 - Chromanator seems to work in 30fps no matter what the fiinal film is, since I am working in 15fps I finally discovered after quite a long time of frustration I had to double everything, instead of a clip appearing at frame 295 it needed to appear at 590...While I guess this gives greater control over things, I sure took awhile to figure out what was happening especially since the "in-chromanator" play (where you hit the play button) happens at 30fps, it seemed slow to me but it wasn't until later I figured out it was running at 1/2 speed.

2 - the clip speed thingie did not give good results for me. While trying to time things I sped up one overlay clip to 150%, the result was a kind of bobbing up and down. I ended up having to go back and refilm the clip to get it the proper length and leave it at 100% instead.

3 - I had a lot of trouble doing everything to a clip at the same time, if I wanted to greenscreen and lower the saturation and brightness I couldn't figure out how to make it happen only to the non-screened out portions, I ended up making 2 stages of clips; with greenscreen done and thern everything else.

4 - minor annoyances. Why can't the timelength of a jpg image be stretched with the mouse? I have to go in and type the length. Videos can be stretched out and the jpgs can be shortened...wierd

Yellow against greenscreen didn't work very well. I created a pure yellow text on a pure green background jpg and greenscreened it in as a title. The color did not end up as yellow at all, so I ended up making the text purple to get decent results.

When entering an object it seems like if the timeline isn't within the object it shoudl default to the beginning of the object. Its really frustrating to double click on an object and set up an effect only to find your timeline is at the beginning and can't be done..plus the difference between the "not in the timeline" and "in the timeline" ought to be a little more obvious, I found it difficult to find where the clip begins while scrolling back and forth.

One bug, if loading a chromanator file it says that a clip cannot be found. If the cancel button is clicked, the whole thing just lockes up.

Is there a way to change the scale of the timeline? I didn't see one while looking around, just working in a 40 second film was difficult to see where the clips start and end in relation to each other, the amount of scrolling on a large clip would be amazing.

all in all, I was able to get everything done.. but I hope my skills improve.. it took 4 hours of solid work to get 15 seconds of film although much of that was spent waiting for rendering only to find out something didn't work properly. I've switched to fast render but it still takes about 1 minute per second of film on my 3.0ghz machine.

Mark
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 9:11pm

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Joshua Davies

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1 and 2 sound like you are working with progressive footage but have left it in split field mode which is only for full frame rate interlaced footage.

3 - the manual tells you all about key, key grade and grading.

4 - JPEGS can be extended with the speed tool just like anything else.

The yellow text issue - why didn't you just import yellow text with an alpha channel which would give perfect results? Or try the spill supression extended - although if you make the image you shouldn't need spill supression? Saving the image as a JPEG could also be the problem - its a lossy format which will be mixing up all your colour data - try TGA or TIF with an alpha channel if possible.

"When entering an object it seems like if the timeline isn't within the object it shoudl default to the beginning of the object." - Don't really get what you are talking about in this paragraph.

"One bug, if loading a chromanator file it says that a clip cannot be found." - I'll look in to this bug but its not been reported so far by anyone else.

"Is there a way to change the scale of the timeline?" - Chromanator isn't an editor - its for working on composite footage shot by shot before you edit. As most shots are shorter than 10 seconds it shouldn't be a big problem.

The rendering time depends on what you do, but there will be a large speed improvement with rendering in the next release of Chromanator.

Hope this all helps...
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 9:21pm

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Brettsta

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next release of chromy meaning an update, or version 2?
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 10:22pm

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Evman

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Brettsta wrote:

next release of chromy meaning an update, or version 2?
Oh c'mon! you gotta be kidding me! Chromy 2? AlamDV3 and Digigrade have not even been released yet! wink wink wink
Posted: Sat, 29th May 2004, 11:17pm

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Joshua Davies

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An update - not Chromy 2!!! biggrin
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 3:31am

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Evman

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schwar wrote:

An update - not Chromy 2!!! biggrin
see, Brettsta?
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 3:35am

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Brettsta

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evman101 wrote:

schwar wrote:

An update - not Chromy 2!!! biggrin
see, Brettsta?
I see clearly now! cool

Just the next version threw me off.
Posted: Sun, 30th May 2004, 10:58am

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Joshua Davies

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Thats why I said next RELEASE, not next VERSION biggrin