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Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 4:26pm

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Hello all at FXHOME who post films on this site. I was looking through various films in the archive, and thought of something. It occured to me how many people are making films, and how many are either looking for their next project or waiting til they have time to shoot it. Since there's nothing better than practice, I thought of trying to start a "challenge" similar in a way to Lars Von Trier's "the five obstacles"
I thought it would be interesting if i pitched an idea for a short film for those of you who want to take part, not in detail, but just the basic outline, then see how you each interpret the idea and make it your own. I thought it would be fascinating watching many films spawned from one stimulus.

Because i'm bored, i thought i'd try this out. Feel free to ignore this, but I thought i'd see if i got any responses, so if you want to try this, here are the rules:

1. It must be exactly 5 mins long to the second. (actual film. end credits excluded)

2. It must be black and white.

3. It must be posted after july 1st. (to give people time to make them)

4. When posted in the cinema section, it must be labelled: "THE CHALLENGE:__________" with your own title in the blank space.

5. It must use the stimulus idea below, but how you interpret it and the ideas it gives you are entirely down to you.

6. It must use at least one CSB-Digital product.(obviously)


THE STIMULUS/ IDEA: The film must be based around the spark words below (in no particular order)



*Trapped* *Choices* *Danger* *Moment of Truth* *new experience* *cold* *attraction*




It would be great to see the different ideas that some of you get from those words. Hope some of you like this idea and try it out. If so, i look forward to seeing your films.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 5:31pm

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Great idea, chuter! I really hope people have a go at this - as you say, it'd be fascinating to see different responses to it, especially given the different age ranges at FXhome.

I'm tempted to have a go myself, if I can find the time (yeah right!). Hmmmmm.... smile
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 6:57pm

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I've thought something like this would be a good idea for a long time.

I'm in for sure. There's no deadline, right? Just any time after July 1?
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:08pm

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Good idea...I'll definitely quickly bake something up for it based on those concepts. Should be fun.

I think people should be doing something regular like this...it would be fun just seeing what people come up with. I don't really understand the problem with past contests like this; they just haven't generated so much interest. Maybe it's best for a small number of people to start something like this & take it from there. More & more people will probably want to join in when they see what's happening. But anyway, I'm definitely in!
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:13pm

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After this week, I am deff. in. I got a very interesting idea in mind..mwahaha.


Count me in, least i hope so!

Awsome idea!

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:16pm

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I like this idea a lot! I have some ideas, but if only I can get the locations confused
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:30pm

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great idea! This gives me something to do with my life! YAY!

PS - Can you post something to remind us every week? I might forget cause i have so much going on at the end of school...
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:34pm

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do we get anything if we win? biggrin biggrin biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:40pm

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I don't think we should...it's just for creativity & fun by the sounds of things...& the less official it is the better, IMO
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:41pm

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I think it is simply a thing to do. A challenge, to see what others come up with. To make us fellow filmmakers work on more versitle works.

I need to find some different acting jobs....hehe

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 7:46pm

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Mellifluous wrote:

I don't think we should...it's just for creativity & fun by the sounds of things...& the less official it is the better, IMO
I was just kidding biggrin !
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 8:37pm

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Sounds good, I might have a go at it. One thing though, does it have to use the words (all of them) as the main themes or can it be maybe be based obviously around say 3 of them and the rest could be pointed out in the description (unless you say that not all the words have to be included but a minimum of say 3 do.)
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:23pm

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Sounds good! I'm going to start right now.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:40pm

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i have a great idea! But does this HAVE to be in black and white? my idea would work so much better if at least some of it is in color. Then the bulk of it will be b and w. Is that okay?
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:44pm

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No, I reckon we need to stick to the rules. No compromising! If we break one of the rules, then we'll break some more, and the whole point of the endeavour might be lost...

But as it's chuter's thing, it's up to him really.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:46pm

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Does it have to be based on all of the words, or do we pcik one?
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:52pm

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evman, don't try to change the rules. That's not good of you. If you can't stick to the rules, don't do it.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 9:55pm

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Aculag wrote:

evman, don't try to change the rules. That's not good of you. If you can't stick to the rules, don't do it.
sorry, im gonna do it, but its just that my idea would be sooooo much better if just a small part of it was in color. But, I'll compromise and make two versions of it. I'll post both, but make the all b+w one the one that is "judged" and people can see the other version if they so choose... biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 10:02pm

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Brettsta wrote:

Does it have to be based on all of the words, or do we pcik one?
That was sort of the point I was trying to ask in my post (in my usual confusing way biggrin)
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 10:09pm

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First awsome idea... THANKS!

second

Brettsta wrote:

Does it have to be based on all of the words, or do we pcik one?
Yes I would like to know that too. Do the words need to be said by someone or do you just want the movie to portray that feeling? (exp. Trapped).

Also this is dumb but, is there any place I can host it for free ( NOT ZED, SINCE it DOESENT HAVE HOTLINKING IT WOULDENT WORK FOR THIS). Free being the keyword.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 10:43pm

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I imagine the words can be used however you wish - as themes, or directly in dialogue, or maybe even in the scene somewhere (on a sign for example). If I get round to doing it I think I'm gonna try to get them all in...although some will be more important than others.
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 10:59pm

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Tarn wrote:

I imagine the words can be used however you wish - as themes, or directly in dialogue, or maybe even in the scene somewhere (on a sign for example). If I get round to doing it I think I'm gonna try to get them all in...although some will be more important than others.
Yeah, my idea also incorporates all of them, but some more than others! I cannot wait! This "prompt" has given me a really great idea and I cannot wait to get started! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2004, 11:15pm

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Perhaps if you 'win'...you could get the awesome prize of....*gasp* Force!! OMG?!?!?!1one


razz

PS: great idea by the way, my sarcasm nonwithstanding. Should be great to see what people can do when they have to follow some kind of guidelines and us fxhome regulars can really compare films like for like.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2004, 12:23am

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I think this is a great idea, but im currently too busy with another project and work. I think it would be cool if FXHome had one of these contests say every, i dont know, 3 or 4 months? It would produce better movies i think. More than just your everyday matrix or starwars fanfilms.
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2004, 3:06am

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Ya I think it's pretty cool idea. I am gonna see what I can do. Tho I think that might clutter up the FXHome Cinema, It might be easier to setup a seperate section somewhere. . . . . Ya that's my computer side ...okay there is no "side" i am a computer guy! ... coming out smile.

ANNNNNNNNNNY who smile Needs the use of at least 1 CSB-Digital Project eh...my Jul 1 ehh...ya I should have one by then smile
Posted: Wed, 2nd Jun 2004, 9:52am

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I'm glad people are interested. I know it's hard to stick to all the rules. I was going to put black and white with another colour of your choice, but I just pictured all these schindler's list red coat films! The rules aren't their to be nasty or controlling, but as a challenge. The words dont have to be spoken, but as Tarn said; as themes, dialougue or in the scene. I tried to think of words that don't necessarily go together so easily, to try and help people come up with more unusual ideas, yet still allow for some cunning CSB-Digital use!

I know black and white is restriciting, but as Aculag's "The low, down of it" showed, Black and White can be truly explored with good lighting. I know colour can be very important from a narrative perspective, so if people think that rule should change, i dont see why not!

There is no deadline, but i thought it would be good to have submissions after July 1, so more are posted around a certain time instead of one or two coming in every three or four weeks. but, thinking about it, July 1 does seem a bit soon. if people think that extending the date would be better, then thats cool.

I've noticed some people have great ideas based on the spark words and rules, but wish to change a few, If so, that is exactly the point of the post. feel free to post a film for "the challenge" abiding by the rules, but if you have an idea that you have thought up from a few words, then use the post as a stimulus to develop a bigger project! never bottle or limit creativity. The rules are for the challenge, but if you now have a really good idea from a few of the spark words, then develop and make that seperate idea aswell.


The use of spark words is from an amazing book i have called "the writers block", a 2inch x 2inch x 3 inch block shaped book! Inside it has pages with tips for generating ideas, spark words, pictures etc. Its not something you read, but something you flip through and find a random page. Every page has an idea to try and inspire you. You can check it out at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0762409487/104-4800331-9399127?v=glance

p.s- if this does get a lot of responses, i'd love to do it every 3 or 4 months, as long as people are still interested.
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004, 9:38pm

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wow chuter,
you got 8 plus ups for one post! Bravo!
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004, 10:01pm

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It would be cool too if:

You had to say three or four (however many is good) predetermined lines of dialouge in the movie, like : " There is a monkey drinking cola over there" and a couple more...just to see how creative people can be with it.

Also, there should be certain props involved, maybe a list of 5 certain house hold object??

Just some suggestions...it would just be cool to see how people would put the dialog into their movie along with the props.

Oh...and maybe some certain actions to be involved. Like you must havea guy tripping and falling. Or you must have a guy that is an obsesive winker. I dont know. Tell me if I am going to far.
Good? Bad?
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004, 10:18pm

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PhLogan wrote:

It would be cool too if:

You had to say three or four (however many is good) predetermined lines of dialouge in the movie, like : " There is a monkey drinking cola over there" and a couple more...just to see how creative people can be with it.

Also, there should be certain props involved, maybe a list of 5 certain house hold object??

Just some suggestions...it would just be cool to see how people would put the dialog into their movie along with the props.

Oh...and maybe some certain actions to be involved. Like you must havea guy tripping and falling. Or you must have a guy that is an obsesive winker. I dont know. Tell me if I am going to far.
Good? Bad?
That would not be cool. They would just be making movies to fit all those things. It would be hard to find a plot that someone else will not also use. If you make it as vague as possible, better films will be produced...
Posted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004, 11:20pm

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The plot could be completely different. It doesn have to be ABOUT an obsessive winker or whatever, just incororate that SOMEWHERE into the film. Not the whole film or anything.

And it would be cool to see how people throw in those certain lines of dialouge. I fail to see how thinking up an original plot from everyone else's would be a problem??

You could have an excellent horror film going on or something and then when they reveal who the killer is and take off his mask, he is winking alot (just an example i thought up in 2 seconds). There could be tons of different plots, just as long as those things were somewhere in there. I am not saying the film has to be based around those things.
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I think that's a bad idea. You took it too far.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004, 12:55am

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oh well i tried once again
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Yeah, I agree. Don't get me wrong, something like that could be incredibly interesting to see how it turns out. But it kind of limits the filmmaker in some ways.

For example, if there had to be an obsessive winker, the whole film would pretty much have to be a comedy. I can't really see any way of doing that seriously, and it wouldn't make sense if in the middle of a serious movie there's something funny/stupid like that.

I think it's a lot better to have the rules and guidelines of this have more to do with the theme of the movie than with specifics.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004, 1:32am

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Lloyd66 wrote:

Yeah, I agree. Don't get me wrong, something like that could be incredibly interesting to see how it turns out. But it kind of limits the filmmaker in some ways.

For example, if there had to be an obsessive winker, the whole film would pretty much have to be a comedy. I can't really see any way of doing that seriously, and it wouldn't make sense if in the middle of a serious movie there's something funny/stupid like that.

I think it's a lot better to have the rules and guidelines of this have more to do with the theme of the movie than with specifics.
Thats what i meant only you did a better job of explaining.
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Ok well thanks for the input...maybe someday smile

I just got that idea because that is something that we do in my highschool film club. We have madatory scenarios/dialouges ect. like those to go by then we have a certain amount of time to put a film together...its really cool to see how each person used them in their own way.
Posted: Fri, 4th Jun 2004, 8:10pm

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fellas fellas, the idea was left wide open....when i was in 2nd grade my teacher told my mom that i think to hard. Right now that would hardly be me....just have fun and follow the rules as closely as you can
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Oh I forgot to mention that i think this is a great way to promote the use of the product...and getting us warmed up for AlamDV3
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Does it have to have vocals? Can it just be music for the sound?
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DigiSm89 wrote:

Does it have to have vocals? Can it just be music for the sound?
I'd imagine it'd be quite difficult to get the subject accross without some kind of vocals, the plot may be a bit hard to understand without any.
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If you find a way to incorporate the ideas in a visual way without dialogue, go for it if you want.

A plot is perfectly capable of being transmitted without sound. 30 years of cinema without sound & my film Glimpse illustrates that!
Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2004, 8:23pm

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I think a good films should not need vocals to get any message across if the storyline was written well.
Posted: Wed, 9th Jun 2004, 1:04am

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I agree. Just take a look at Rose (well, that has dialogue....i guess...but no actual 'vocals') or especially films like Intruder and Semi-Colon. Gee, come to think of it Intruder, Rose, and Semi-Colon were all on the Top Ten. Just my two cents for the day.
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chuter wrote:

The use of spark words is from an amazing book i have called "the writers block", a 2inch x 2inch x 3 inch block shaped book! Inside it has pages with tips for generating ideas, spark words, pictures etc. Its not something you read, but something you flip through and find a random page. Every page has an idea to try and inspire you. You can check it out at Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0762409487/104-4800331-9399127?v=glance
Hey my teacher used that book when giving us prompts to write stuff about last year. Ya its a great book, its got lots of different and interesting stuff that is sure to get you thinking. That was before I went into film making. I woulda never though of using that to think of an idea for a movie. Good idea!
And ya i'll try to participate in the challenge too. I probabaly won't finish it for a while though. I'm gonna have a lot of work to do on my feature length film that I've been planning on making for a while. Summer time is the best for making stuff though! No school!

--Peace--
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hi guys,

first post here for me after spending a day lurking and checking what you've all submitted in the cinema section.

have to say im really impressed and glad I've stumbled upon this site. had a few developments of late which have led me towards low budget fx and this place is ideal.

anyway - enough waxing your cars and back to the topic.

i know im new here but if you wouldn't mind i'd love to have a shot at submitting a film by these guidelines - i've had a project in mind for a while now that fits the initial criteria of the post and this topic has given me the needed push to just go ahead and try making it ....quickly.

i'll try to post some finished projects i've done sometime soon (in post at the moment for a gore comedy - hopefully you'll like it)

great idea by the way.
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Welcome to FXHome ghevans!

You will need to have a CSB-Digital product (Chromantor and/or AlamDV) to submit your film to the cinema, but I don't think there is any harm in just making a topic for your film!

Andrew biggrin
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yeah im planning to use Chromanator as my project would require some green screen keying to incorporate live video with 3d environments.
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when u said exacty 5 mins could a 5sec diff matter?
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im really just posting here so i can look at this in the morning, because I am oh so tired and might forget
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Man, its been a looooooonnnnnggggg time since I really did anything involving a film. And well its mainly been because of two things...Work and Lack of ideas. And thanks to chuter I may just have been show a way to get back into movie making. Good idea man.

And thank you. biggrin
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Stick to the original guidelines.

That's what should be done. Nothing less, nothing more.

smile Whose making something then? biggrin
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today we can turn them in, i guess. Its July.
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yep. wonder if anyone has even remembered this! it seems like a long time ago
Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2004, 12:01pm

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Somebody has already submitted one, check the latest movies.
Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2004, 12:06pm

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I think are few are in post-production.

Don't close the competition yet smile
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er-no wrote:

I think are few are in post-production.

Don't close the competition yet smile
Yeah, one coming from me is almost ready.
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Hybrid-Halo

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BuBump!

I know there are still one or two in the pipeline!
Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2004, 12:27am

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Well, I believe it was my idea to restate this thread, but whatever. I'm just glad it's back up! I'm almost finished! smile
Posted: Wed, 22nd Sep 2004, 4:13am

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ZukoVega

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I love contests - I don't know how I missed this one! I just did a search and only found one movie submitted, soooooo is this still going on? I just had an idea that fits each of the key phrases, the only problem is I don't know if I can write the story well enough to warrent 5 minutes...maybe....