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Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:11pm

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GodOfCourage

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I'm requesting that someone take the time to make me a temple, sort of like the Jedi Academy temple where Desann and Kyle fight at the end. I would do it myself but i do not posses the Chromanator software as of yet.

IF you would like to help me out, tell me so...

May The Force Be With You...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:14pm

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Marek

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Chromanator doesn't make backgrounds. It just puts them behind people or things. You might be able to find similar buildings from links from theforce.net look around there. I know they have tons of buildings at scifi3d as well. smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:14pm

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Aculag

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How does not having chromanator stop you from making this?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:14pm

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GodOfCourage

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Forgot to mention the temple is from the game JEdi Outcast...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:16pm

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GodOfCourage

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Uhhh, oops confused

Then what software makes backgrounds?

And i have looked at scifi3d and they don't have what i am looking for for this specific scene, others i saw are good...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:17pm

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Marek

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You could get a screen capture from the game and paint out kyle. That might work.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:19pm

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GodOfCourage

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Marek, how do i capture the scene from the game? i'm very new at this and this is my senior project for me to graduate, so i'm just learning...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:21pm

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Aculag

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So let me get this straight.

You have no idea how to do this, and you HAVE to do it this way or you don't graduate? Sounds to me like you got in over your head... Or maybe I'm just not understanding?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:22pm

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Marek

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If you are on a windows OS, then you can press print screen on your keyboard, and then go into an image editor (even paint) and press paste, and it will show up in there, then you can manipulate it as you choose. smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:23pm

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GodOfCourage

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I am over my head. I've created small movies with Photoshop and Premiere. I did one in french for my french final, its not bad.

But i wanted to try and get an upgrade of the french one, better locations, more action etc....
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:23pm

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GodOfCourage

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Thanks Marek...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:26pm

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GodOfCourage

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ANd you don't have to a movie, you can do anything for your senior project and i wanted to make a full scale, star wars based movie...
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:27pm

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Marek

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Just wondering, how long do you have until this is due?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:30pm

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GodOfCourage

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Well it has to be done by May of your Senior year, i am a sophmore at the moment, so i have 2 years...

I already have a script, storyboard is underway, costumes are being brainstormed, we all the actors and props....location is the biggest problem
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:34pm

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Marek

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Ah, well you have plenty of time then. smile

I would say, try to build a scale miniature of the area as best as you could if you aren't into the 3d scene. Then you could just greenscreen your actors in. Or you could try to find a place that you think could be composited with cg background to complete the effect.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:38pm

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GodOfCourage

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I also need to find out how to make lasers....

I have this tutorial but it doesn't make sense when you get to this one area, when i get to step 5 i get confused....can you understand it?

http://www.darkskies.info/lasers.html
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:39pm

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Marek

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Alam will be really easy to make lightsabers and lasers with. smile It's really cheap too. buy it right here biggrin
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:42pm

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GodOfCourage

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ONLY $49.95 in my book thats alot of money...

Im just a kid. LoL.

But maybe i can find a free trial or something..
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:45pm

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Marek

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It's really cheap compared to most other programs like it. And I'm a sophomore too. smile so it's not that hard to get the money smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:46pm

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GodOfCourage

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True, I got about 30 so another 20 won't be to hard to dig up.

Now you decide to tell me your my age. I thought you were older, way older, how did you learn about all this stuff?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:47pm

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Marek

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I've been spending a lot of my time here since about this time last year. You pick up a lot of new things over time. Eventually you can butt into almost any conversation and own. wink
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:51pm

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GodOfCourage

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LoL. razz

Were you just like me? Not knowing a thing about special effects and stuff. Cause if you were, you must know how frusturating it can be.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:55pm

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Yeah, I came in here with no knowledge of anything (filmmaking, effects, cameras, websites, etc.) It can be pretty frustrating now knowing how to do what your trying, but you learn along the way smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 6:57pm

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GodOfCourage

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What softwares in your opinion are the best in making a good Star Wars based movie?

I already have Adobe Photoshop and Adobe Premiere (and from what i'm seeing on this site, might consider getting Alam)
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:01pm

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Marek

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Alam is definately the fastest and best method of applying lightsabers that I know of.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:03pm

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GodOfCourage

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Alright, what about lasers? and energy beams? Alam still #1?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:03pm

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Marek

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Yep. Lightsabers and lasers are basically the same thing, and you can make them look really good with alam. smile
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:06pm

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GodOfCourage

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I see...whats the best one to use for making backgrounds/backdrops or where i can i get some good backdrops other than scifi3D?
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:11pm

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GodOfCourage

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For my movie i need backdrops for...

1.) Cockpit
2.) Prison
3.) Hanger
4.) Temple
5.) Jedi Academy
6.) Training Area
7.) Courtyards (i can find those easily)
8.) Bar
9.) On top of a roof
10.) Interior of a ship
11.) Shield Generator room
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 7:15pm

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GodOfCourage

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Not askin to much, but some of those i can find on my own...

But ones like the shield generator room and the Jedi Trials course, are the ones i can't find....
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 8:00pm

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GodOfCourage wrote:

For my movie i need backdrops for...

1.) Cockpit
2.) Prison
3.) Hanger
4.) Temple
5.) Jedi Academy
6.) Training Area
7.) Courtyards (i can find those easily)
8.) Bar
9.) On top of a roof
10.) Interior of a ship
11.) Shield Generator room
For the buildings are you looking for interiors or exteriors?

I can render you backgrounds of:
1) A hangar
2) Outside the jedi temple (or the inside of the Jedi Council room where Yoda hangs out smile)
3) Interior of a ship
4) Cockpit

Just let me know what angles you want and I'll post them up for you.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 8:04pm

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Ask far as making backgrounds, for some simple shots, you can use Photoshop if you already have it, to composite pieces of various buildings or pictures together to create backdrops that suit your scene. If you want to go all the way with your fanfilm, however, you will probably want some moving shots, which require 3d. Really, you will need a 3d program for proper shots of ships or speeders and whatnot as well, so it might be best to get a hold of one now and start learning the basics while you still have a bit of time.

Blender is free and very powerful, although more difficult to learn than some of the other programs available.

Anim8tor is another free 3d program, much easier to learn, and can still do some relatively impressive stuff. Not available for Mac.

If you want to get serious about it, as a student you can get major discounts on 3d software such as Lightwave, Cinema 4D, 3D Studio Max, or Maya from places like JourneyEd or The Academic Superstore. tkhose are all programs used on a regular basic for effects work in major television shows and films. You would probably be looking at $300-500 US for those ones, but they are extremely powerful and versatile.
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 8:14pm

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GodOfCourage

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Rawree? Can you really?

The Building is exterior, on the roof
Posted: Sun, 6th Jun 2004, 8:18pm

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GodOfCourage wrote:

ONLY $49.95 in my book thats alot of money...

Im just a kid. LoL.

But maybe i can find a free trial or something..
Thats in pounds, the Brit's money. It's about 90 dollars here. I'm still in middle school and i could afford it. (and I'm NOT some rich kid!)