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The Challenge: Lost

Posted: Sat, 3rd Jul 2004, 11:53am

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A man wakes up in bed with no understanding what is going on,wearing weird robes, not part of what he usually would have in his closet. Drawn to the door where the truth might be found he is unsure what course of action he should take.

*Fair warning*
Against better judgement I post this movie. I did _not_ feel it hit the spot. I have shown it to a few others, and unfortunatly they agree. But heck, its my first completed short, and someone gotta follow up the challenge, no ?. So if you are very picky about what you DL/watch I think I would actually advice against doing it. Anyway. I promise to put more effort into next challenge smile Also I have a little note about the intentions of the movie, if anyone wants to read what the heck I was thinking. But if you intend to watch the movie, do so before reading the note.


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Posted: Sat, 3rd Jul 2004, 11:53am

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Note from the creator:

The movies technical standards might not be too high due to lack of experience, but there is an actual thought behind
It. Good or bad I don't know, and if I managed to capture some of it or it is complelty impossible to grasp for people
Not being me I don’t know.'

The movie was created with a base in a challenge at fxhome.com, with the following rules:

1. It must be exactly 5 mins long to the second. (actual film. end credits
excluded)
2. It must be black and white.
3. It must use the stimulus idea below, but how you interpret it and the
ideas it gives you are entirely down to you.
4. It must use at least one CSB-Digital product.(obviously)

THE STIMULUS/ IDEA: The film must be based around the spark words below (in
no particular order)
*Trapped* *Choices* *Danger* *Moment of Truth* *new experience* *cold*
*attraction*

'Lost' can be viewed two ways.

The outer story:
A man (ghost) wakes up in a bed. Confused, cold, unaware what is happening. He feels drawn (attracted)
to the door leading out of the house. He knows there is something he doesn’t want to know there, it's danger.
He chooses not to open it up at once. He views himself as a living being as 'flashes' before he slowly remembers what
happened in the moment of truth: a short circuit killed him while working on a new room. He cries in agony,
but no sounds escape his lips. He accepts his fate, his soul and ghostly manifestation unites and he is able to leave
'into the light'. Now is that’s not a new experience I don’t know. Being dead doesn’t happen to often.

The inner story:

A man wakes up, confused and cold. He is attracted to the door, but he knows it is dangerous. He is trapped within his own mind, battling himself
to discover his inner feelings, to seek out the truth.

Walking around aimlessly, trying to recollect his life. He observes himself doing mundane things, watching TV, reading a newspaper.
Slowly he chooses to open up the dangerous gate to the darkest places of his mind: down into the basement. The place where all people hides their inner
fears and put them away to cope with the life they live.

The awful truth appears: he is dead (not physically though). The shock (also represented with the short circuit) leaves him in agony. He decides it is time to
do something about it. He collects all his strength and opens up the door. The dangerous door leading to places he don't know and where new experiences lies
ahead of him. We wish him the best of luck in his new life, and congratulate with a good choice smile
Posted: Sun, 4th Jul 2004, 9:32am

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I think its a great movie, It's a good peace of camera work and with good editing. The walking part was long but thats what gives it a good suspense. So the perspective and the story (for the ammount of time u used) was pretty good, good music. And a good end.

Good job
Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2004, 4:41am

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I thought it was very good... at least there was some trace of a story behind it....

There were some areas that I noticed could use some attention.

When he woke up he was shaking (which was kind of sweet, nice touch) but he didn't "act" like he had no understanding of what was going on, he looked fairly calm and almost like it was deja vu. If you think about it, if you really woke up wearing something you know you don't own, your reaction's going to be anything but calm, UNLESS, you're still tipsy from last night.

All right, movin' on... The editing was kind of rough in some areas and it affected the soundtrack.

The part where the guy was going around in circles; I think a good idea would have been to sit in an office chair that spun around or built a simple device you can sit on using a Lazy Susan so that your shot would have been a little more stabilized.

When the individual saw himself sitting at a table, there was no real reaction to that it was almost like he was watching someone else...

That's all I have I guess. Overall I though it was very good for a first short and it's clear that you have a distinct style that's already evident, I'd like to see what else you come up with.
Posted: Mon, 5th Jul 2004, 6:42pm

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I didnt really enjoy this short im afraid.

I liked the opening title and the framing of the opening shot, and sure the editing was good during the opening stages. But I just felt that the film on the whole lasted about 2 minutes too long. This would have worked well as a 3-4 minute short, but I found the 5 minute mark stretching your idea.

I think the reason for this was that once the character had made it out of the bedroom, there wasn't really much in the way of suspense or reaction. There was something about the way in which you introduced the characters exploration, and the revealing of what happened to him that just didnt sit right for me. I also found that when he is pacing around in circles that the cuts to the close ups of his face as the room spins around him didnt quite work.

I think if there was more content to this than just a few apparitions before the climax (which I won't go into for spoiler reasons) I would have enjoyed the experience a lot more. However, I found myself waiting for the film to progress instead of flowing along with it.

I hope you dont take my criticism too harshly, as I hope this can be seen as constructive. It just didnt work for me.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004, 4:44am

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WTF is a 'Lazy Susan'? (I probably don't know because I'm American)
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004, 8:28am

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ghevans: Not at all. Actually, I totally: agree with you it should have been shorter. I had to remove a couple of scenes and then had to prolonge some as the movie had to be 5 mins.

One of my major probloems is that the day after I did the shots, the wife and father in law came to continue doing building works, and the rooms are rearranged and thus not like the others. So it was a one shot deal smile

Anyway, thanks for the input I received so far, I agree on most of your points. Im takin them all with me to my next project. BTW where are all the other challenge movies ?
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004, 12:35pm

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WTF is a 'Lazy Susan'?
Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

(I probably don't know because I'm American)
Thanks for your patriotism man... I'm an American too. But I understand, you're from Kentucky or West Virginia... Tell ya what, go to your local hardware center and ask somebody.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004, 9:21pm

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Nice concept, but as others have said it was overlong. It wouldn't matter if you had a bit more variation in shots, but just having the guy walking around in circles got very tedious (watching). Maybe it could have cut a lot more to different things he notices whilst he's walking round, little things that serve as a puzzle he has to put together e.g. a brief shot of his hand doing the electric work (implying what happened), more shots from his life, etc. The cellar sequence was overlong too, & could maybe have had clues scattered round so there is actually significance in the camera's movements & edgy music (I know there is ultimate significance but the length of the sequence...)

I liked the transparent effect though, & the electric effect...well done. Shots are good, but linger longggggggggggggg. Although it is a nice concept, it's been done before in The Sixth Sense. I really like the technical side of this but because of the lack of tighter editing etc I have to be frank & feel I cannot give it more than a 2.
Posted: Tue, 6th Jul 2004, 11:50pm

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I'm from Texas, berlin2232. And 'WTF' is not in any way profane. And I still am not able to figure out what a lazy susan is.

EDIT: So sorry. I know what a Lazy Susan is, I just didn't connect the name with the object at once. Sorry again.
Posted: Wed, 7th Jul 2004, 3:27am

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WTF..., WTF...?

Oh! What the "FREAK"!!!!

my bad...

...or maybe, Who the freak...?, naaa, we're talking about an object so it has to be "What" the freak.... maybe it's not "freak" at all. Maybe it's not "What the..."

Well, what does it stand for? It's clear to me that I'm no good at acronyms or abbreviations?

For those that want to know what a Lazy Susan is? http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=howTo&p=Build/lazysusan&topic=howToLibrary
Posted: Thu, 8th Jul 2004, 2:06am

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I didnt mind so much watching it...but I "lost" sight of the purose, maybe because i was tired while watching it. I guess the point was that he was LOST, and thats it. Maybe there was more, if so , I didnt see it. Not bad though. I enjoyed watching it smile
Posted: Sun, 25th Jul 2004, 3:00pm

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I thought the film was pretty well made. The only two things that glared out at me for improvement was the shot where the guy was walking and was clearly holding the camera. . I think that shot would have been alot better if the camera were on some kind of cart and he pushed it instead of carrying the camera to eliminate the shake when he stepped. Second was the music change at about 3:45 was too abrupt and had a click sound at the beginning should have been faded in I think.Otherwise his(your?) acting could have benn brushed up here and there but overall not bad. At first I was wondering what was up with not having wood work around THE door but as the film went on it sort of added to the erieness(word?) of it. Was that shot in black and white or did you convert color to BW? Good work.
Posted: Tue, 27th Jul 2004, 9:54pm

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Challenges are probably difficult to do, so I'll have to say it was done ok for the premiss. I don't know where I would have begun with those concepts.
Posted: Wed, 28th Jul 2004, 5:14am

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Good aside from awkward parts obviously thrown in for length. Some voice over or narrative would have worked nicely.
Posted: Fri, 30th Jul 2004, 9:07am

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hmm, this was a little too artsy for me (but then again, what of the "challenges" won't be artsy?), but overall, the film was very well made. The editing was all done very well, as was the way it was shot. Really, what it comes down to is taste. This really isn't my kind of movie, but I can see what you were going for, and you achieved that. My rating is based on personal opinion of the film alone
Posted: Fri, 30th Jul 2004, 1:17pm

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Rating: +1

@Zirk

your warning is completely unnecessary and stupid to do so. You should never be sorry for what you do. Just say it was your first effort and that's all we need to know. We don't need long explanations of what other friends of you think and if the movie hits the spot. WTF?? We can see it ourselves if we want and don't ever say again we shouldn't watch this movie... remember that next time. That pisses me off! Where is your confidence??


well, I saw your movie and I liked it kinda... got 3 points from me.
Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 11:05pm

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back from hollidays smile

I see there are a few new comments. Always appreciated.

Spanish Prisoner: totally right. I really hate it when people do that myself. ugh. But in this case, the movie didnt actually turn out the way I intended. But what the heck.

Yes, this was a one man show. No actors, no camera operators no nothing but some time figuring out the plot and an afternoon shooting then another afternoon cutting. And no special equipment but a camrecorder and a tripod smile

But Im still waiting for the other submissions! come on, not any fun doing this alone!
Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 11:53pm

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I am working on one, but don't expect it anytime soon. smile
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2004, 5:27am

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Spanish Prisoner wrote:

@Zirk

your warning is completely unnecessary and stupid to do so. You should never be sorry for what you do. Just say it was your first effort and that's all we need to know. We don't need long explanations of what other friends of you think and if the movie hits the spot. WTF?? We can see it ourselves if we want and don't ever say again we shouldn't watch this movie... remember that next time. That pisses me off! Where is your confidence??


well, I saw your movie and I liked it kinda... got 3 points from me.
LIGHTEN UP!! goll dang it, that pisses ME off. If he is under confident you are OVER confident. He is summing up the reasons for what and why the movie is.... is that so unreasonable? d***n lighten up!

good movie! smile
Posted: Tue, 27th Sep 2005, 9:10pm

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it looks like it was going to be a bloody murder but i geess not