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The Odyssey

Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 9:07am

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This is our abstract version of a scene from Homer's "The Odyssey". Interpret it in any way you like. Please Comment. Enjoy!

** Filmed in three hours, in the middle of an RV Park, this movie leaves much to the imagination. Because it was to be presented as an English final, graphic violence and timing were issues. **


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Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 9:39am

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I have to say that this leaves a lot to the imagination, too much even. As far as I could see this didn't look too much like "a scene from Homer's 'The Odyssey'" it looked like a collection of random shots of guys on the beach with their shirts off doing, not the best, stage fighting. Even though I have never read the Odyssey I don't know the story but I feel pretty sure it wasn't about people runnig around constantly hitting each other with branches. Going back to a previous point, was this a scene from it? You say it was but it was structured like a teaser trailer and had nothing to do with any kind of plot.
All I saw in this was 1 minute of badly compressed plotless fighting.
2 stars.

P.S I really hope this isn't one of the masterpieces you've mentioned several times, if it is then I don't have high hopes for your other work frown
Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 10:39pm

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Ok, I interpret this as... "Nothing to do with the odyssey at all... You just had to do an english project on the quick and decided to film a fight scene and say it's from the odyssey."

I agree with rawree.

What the hell did you use that song for?

How were we supposed to even try to figure out these were supposed to be characters, when no one (a) said anything or (b) looked any different from eachother, thanks to the compression?

How can you say this is supposed to be the odyssey, when there's no plot whatsoever?

I think you should change the credits and title sequences and the opening monologue, and turn it in next year for your project on Robin Hood.
Posted: Wed, 4th Aug 2004, 10:54pm

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Hm... interesting. I have my own version of the Odyssey. I can't post the whole movie here, but I have quite a few screens from my compoot if you wanna see..

http://flip.speg.com/o1.jpg
http://flip.speg.com/o2.jpg
http://flip.speg.com/o3.jpg
http://flip.speg.com/o4.jpg
http://flip.speg.com/o5.jpg
http://flip.speg.com/06.jpg
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:30am

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Rating: +1/-1

Welcome to the video for the small square production. Let's all watch the worst compressed movie on the site.

Please guys? Try and recompress it. As for the gist of it. Indeed, that was just you filming a fight in the sand? neutral
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:34am

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What grade you get on this English Project, eh?

Andrew biggrin

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Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:34am

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AndrewtheActorMan wrote:

What grade you get on this Enlgish Project, eh?

Andrew biggrin
Heh, you failed I presume Andrew?
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:38am

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What are you talking about?! confused

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:44am

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Alright, alright, so I see nobody liked this. This wasn't for my english project, it was for my friends, I was simply the cameraman and my brother edited. My brother also filmed a little. Some of those shots in the movie that were nicely framed? That's ALL me! Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, but, seeriously, none of you liked it? Oh, well. confused I'll try to get praise with my next film. hugegrin
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:47am

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Not realising your potential at all really, is it?

Maybe it'll pass your course. But the next time you submit a movie project of yours, make sure you've improved. smile

Good luck, I'll look forwards to your future work.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:49am

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Rating: -1

From the horse's mouth quoted from the charmingly titled post: "I must be the luckiest man alive!":

atom wrote:

Because people tend to think that we are like 'phenomenal' filmmakers. plus, the audience we're targeting is our peers, so the producer thought it would be best to choose us, adding that he had seen our work and thought it was pure Speilberg. I really don't like bragging, hell, I think all my own work sucks, but people just REALLY like it. I don't know why, they just do, I think it's 'cause we can make the dullest moment look like your watching the matrix for the first time.
'nuff said.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 2:41am

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Yeah, Andrew bragged, and yeah we know you all hate this, and yeah we know you all think it sucks. So what does quoting someone saying something cynical and then saying, "nuff said" accomplish? Nothing. Anyone of you could've said "well, if you framed that shot differently", or, "if you had more dialogue it would-", but instead you say, "Well THAT was crappy compression!" or "There's no dialogue, so it sucks!" Let me think for a moment....Jeez, maybe I already know that there's no dialogue seeing as I filmed it! Or maybe I know the compression is bad because I compressed it! I already kow these things, people! And not one of you took any time give any CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. JohnCarter, I knew eventually you'd respond with some kind words. Have you EVER once said anything good about any film? I mean, I would appreciate some comments from you seeing as you are a professional, but instead you just make a comment simply to be spiteful.

Oh and one more thing....STOP COPYING MY SIGNATURE!
I came up with that all on my own, my one piece of individuality in my avatar-less world and you all go and ruin it!
*ben3308 runs away and cries*
Oh well,
Good Luck Filmmaking

EDIT: Okay some of you had some constructive comments, and I thank you. But for the rest of you (JohnCarter, primarily) what I said above applies. neutral
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 5:05am

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Sorry about ben. Thanks all for your comments. As for the compression: I doon't seem to be having a problem, but I'll try to see if I can make it better. smile

J.C.:Shut it.

Aculag: Not my choice of song. I was out-voted on that venture. I put it in as a joke, and then everybody started saying "Keep it in!!!"
My friend, the mop-top guy, goes to a school for the arts. They wanted something symbolic, and something short. All I did was try to deliver. It got him an A. (It's meant as a 'scene'. Not the whole story. Believe me, if it was the whole story, it def. would've been deferent. ) We tried to make it as 'different' as we could. People get tired of watching those 'true-to-the-book' videos. We wanted something short, filled with action, with an excuse for making a movie. Thought you guys might like it. smile
Robin Hood, funny.

Er-No: Sorry about the compression. neutral

HyHal: Thanks man.

Andrew (other than myself): Don't say that your sig pic is childish, cause last time I checked: You are a child! Nah, j/k

Don't worry guys, we're updating our equipment right now. By November, we'll have started our comic-book flick: Atom. Tests for it will be up soon.

P.S. : +1 to the first person who can spot the effect. (It's very subtle, but effective)

Thanks, All. (Except Johnny) smile
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 7:08am

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atom/ben3308, you are some/one confusing person(s).
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 8:51am

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Hi atom, not much I can say because I myself have not submitted any movies here. I have however made movies in the past, and I couldn't help but notice that you voted your own movie a five. Now I don't have to submit a movie to know that that is just wrong. That alone makes me want to give you a 1 just to reflect the creator. There is not a lot I can say without repeating what every one else said. I am not going to pick on what has already been said. I am going to say that although it looks like every body is just picking on you...and well they are, it doesn't mean that there is not some helpful criticism in there some where; you just have to look for it. As for all of the other posts you may not have like, just take them with a grain of salt, don't let them effect choices you want to make in future films because people may not like it, but don't just forget it. Work off of every thing said here today to make your films better. As for my vote I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and give you a three, which is a nice as I will be this time. Maybe your work will be better in the future.

Wizard.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 9:09am

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Aculag wrote:

atom/ben3308, you are some/one confusing person(s).
surprised

Wizard wrote:

I have however made movies in the past, and I couldn't help but notice that you voted your own movie a five. Now I don't have to submit a movie to know that that is just wrong. That alone makes me want to give you a 1 just to reflect the creator.
erm, WHY?!?! The guy is proud of his work. Lots o' people hold their own work in high regard, and I don't see anything wrong with that. I mean, I gave this movie a 1 for lots of reasons, but if he's happy with the work, and think it deserves a five, I say good for him. Even if movie making is about creating something for the audience, it doesn't hurt if he likes it too.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 10:17am

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atom wrote:

From the jack***' mouth quoted from the charmingly titled everything: "I haven't made anything that shows that I'm any better than these kids!"
'nuff said.
This is possibly one of the most foolish posts you've written:
http://fxhome.com/cinema/info_cache/movieinfo1216.html
http://fxhome.com/cinema/info_cache/movieinfo1214.html

These two trailers are in fact better (in many people's opinions) than this or your matrix trailer. I don't know what grudge you have against JC but his advice is extremely helpful. If he, or anyone else, just says the sound is crap then ask them to tell you how to improve it, dont saddle up your high horse and say that you don't need their advice (/sucking up to JC wink )

On to my second point, why arn't you releasing your own work? You've claimed to be great filmmakers (Better than certain prefessionals) and yet provide no evidence. Maybe this is your own work (it was until the bad reviews came in).
Why not just pick your best movie to date and submit it. Theat way we will all be able to see your skill level and not your friend's.

PS
Now that you've rated a 5 people will feel inclined to lower your rating just so your movie is in the place that it deserves, nice one!
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 10:44am

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To Waser, to an extent I do think it is a very good thing that he is proud of his work, but you also have to consider all of the other people who have submitted movies and could have had a better rating if they had done what he did, but didn't because they thought it would send the wrong message and would be unfair. Also like Rawree put it, now that people have seen he has given it a five, people are going to feel inclined to give it a much lower rating then at first, just to put it in the place they believe it should be in. I kind of hinted to doing that myself, although it was not what I meant. My point was that it sends the wrong message, but my other point was, no matter what we are saying, they are only our opinions and he should take it with a grain of salt. My disliking or your disliking does not make his quality of film any worse, and if likes his work he still should and he has good reason too, you should like anything you spend time on...if you don't then maybe you aren't doing it your best.

Wizard.

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Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 1:12pm

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Rating: +1

Is the effect a lens flare?
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 2:28pm

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Yes, It is a lens flare. And, WIzard, does this film honestly look like a 1 to you? I mean, I know there are better movies than this on the site, but this movie is better than alot of other movies here as well. ALso, I rated this movie a five because, in my opinion, it IS one. And everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

Oh, and the dust that kicks up when the guy slides across the ground is mostly Alam.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 3:13pm

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Atom, if you're going to ask Wizard to justify his votes then perhaps you should do the same. You've voted your showreel, matrix trailer and this as 5s and yet films which are not just random shots and which have story behind them have been voted much less.

I'm beginning to think, I don't know if anyone agrees with me, that your phenominal film making skills and great films only appear that way to you and your family and friends because of your perspective. Until you can back up your words with proof I'm afraid that you'll just end up being laughed at.

I now challenge you to post a link to your best film to date so that we can see if there is any truth in your claims.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 3:59pm

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Some of you guys should keep your tone down a bit. Especially you atom. No need to insult people.


To the film itself... well... It is quite a random looking fight with little imagination in soundwork (just a song, no soundeffects, nothing), not much thought spent into camerawork (wich isn't surprising. Wouldn't have expected more from a film where it says "filmed in three hours") and standard editing.
The color filters seem to look nice - at least as I imagine it without the compression being so bad. Gives it a good, hot, sunny touch, wich was what I liked.

Somewhere around 2 and 3 for me.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 4:15pm

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nice font
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 4:45pm

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Whoa! Okay, I'm really sorry to everyone for the compression. I just watched the odyssey and the compression was horrible. eek I seem to have uploaded the wrong file. My internets down on my notebook, which has the nicely compressed version, so as soon as I can get it back up I will. Again, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize it was that crappy. confused

Sollthar: Thanks for the comments, man. Sadly it was I who decided to go with that music track. Andrew had originally added in heavy drumbeating and good SFX, but I thought "Faint" by Linkin PArk sounded cool. As did Chase, whose school project this was. So the audio is all my fault.

scannon: I'm glad you liked font, I thought it was cool as well.

Rawree: I'm sorry that you dislike this film., but that's just your opnion. I'll try and post my best movie thus far, but as I said, that internet is down on my notebook at the moment so it might be a while. neutral Okay, well......I guess that's it. I appreciate your comments and would like to know more about ShadowLight FX.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 5:07pm

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Didn't think the audio was "bad", it could just have been much cooler with swooshes, bashes, and other soundfx added.
It's just a shame many amateur filmmakers underestimate the power of good sound. Even if you have mediocre visuals, with a kickass sounddesign the whole thing will work much more! Especially in an action sequence. Same can happen other way round. If you have good visuals and bad sound, it will put the whole thing down.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 7:38pm

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Havent watched the film yet, but i have read all the posts. I would have alot to say to diff people but im too lazy to type it out. I will say this tho...

I'll try and post my best movie thus far, but as I said, that internet is down on my notebook at the moment so it might be a while.
.. So drop the movie file onto a CD and take it to the computer that your uploading these other films with. I dont see what the problem is... there shouldnt be one..

I don't know what grudge you have against JC but his advice is extremely helpful.
In some cases this is true.. But what he wrote back to him was not helpful...

Let me think for a moment....Jeez, maybe I already know that there's no dialogue seeing as I filmed it! Or maybe I know the compression is bad because I compressed it! I already kow these things, people!
....? .... Then.... why... still... do them.... ? (mostly the bad compression)


-Chris

p.s. Ill comment later on the film.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 7:49pm

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As for the remark on me being a child, yes. I am a teenager. Teenagers are a small step over children, but thats not the point, and doesn't need to be addressed. But there is a diffrence in being a child and childISH.

Just had to add my two cents, and don't feel too bad that people are copying your signature, you DID ask a question...hehe

Not trying to be a moran or anything, just a bit of fun. Feel free to copy my signatures (besides the one you got) too.

Anyway. As said earlier, this wasn't your strongest work, and I think that you two have a bit of an additude. And please, as stated elsewhere, please leave your brother-vs-brother-ramballings elsewhere. The forum doesn't need that.

So, hope you can see my points, and don't think I am a bad person biggrin

Andrew biggrin
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ben3308 wrote:

I appreciate your comments and would like to know more about ShadowLight FX.
http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14369
If there's anything you want to know that's not in there send me a PM.
Posted: Thu, 5th Aug 2004, 9:27pm

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Thanks, Rawree. CX3, I filmed this right after I got my camera, which was right after I quit using my cheap little webcam to film. I know we've raved about how good we are, in fact, we're not that great after all. I mean, we may not have stuff that can compare to some of the movies on this site, but the people in the area that we live still think its genius. Our inflated egos would be partially attributed to this. neutral Nonetheless, whenever we do event footage, (which is what we get hired to do the most of- we do this usually for our church or for families in the area; I actually did a film for the Dallas Museum of Art and they ended up not using it. frown ) The customers are almost always satisfied with the result. Probably except for one time where I had added "LEt's Get it Started" as the background music for a Vacation Bible School film, and we were forced to change it so that it appealed to the audience better. I felt really bad about this because I knew this was only because the audience that would be watching it would be primarily older white people. sad I think it was Mr.Pencil that said, "It doesn't matter how much better this movie is, it'll still impress my family." I would say that this is true with us as well. As for the putting the stuff on CD, after adding my extra battery to my notebook, I seem to now not be able to reinstall my CD drive. This same thing has happened with my Linksys card, which is why I have an internet dilemma. Okay, well, nonetheless, we'll try and get some stuff posted. You may end up not liking it, and I guess that's okay....but, oh well. Okay well thats my thoughts for now and, as always,
GOod Luck Filmmaking!
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Well atom to answer your question, I gave your movie the benefit of the doubt and gave it a three. My point was seeing you rate it up to a five even after I am pretty sure you said kind of early into submitting this film that there were things you didn't even like. It leaves me with the impression that you don't like your own movie, and are not proud of it, but just want to get a good rating, and that is why I said I felt like giving you a one...but I never said I would. Three is still how I feel, but I did almost tilt to a two. I am on the fence about it. Like I said, votes are not everything, if you got your friend an A then there is something to feel good about, my vote doesn't change the grade your friend got, which is the only thing you intended it for. In spite of all of this, keep making movies, there is something there, and I think you are going to submit a movie that will get a four or five from me, just work at it.

Wizard.
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Rating: +1

So much to +1 to first one to find the effect. :-\
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There you go! +2 for the lateness of the reward! Now maybe you won't be so sad!
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i HATE that song.... Evman angry! RAH! okay. ill be good.

i must agree with what most have said here. Song choice, as you can tell from my... accident... above, is bad. That was sort a disgrace to Homer's great book, as it has no point to it that even resembles the book, except for there are people in it.. and there is water. thats about it.

Compression = bad. duh

some alright editing, but not much great here.

Hope to see better stuff from you in the future. And don't worry, this wont be number one on the chart for much longer. twisted twisted twisted

wink
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Heh, score.
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Whoa, three pages. Sorry for the late reply, my internet's been down. Hope you enjoy the film. Thanks for all you replies.

Sollthar: Deep, man. I'll try not to be so stupid and arrogant. But, hey, they're even making a movie about my life called: The Grudge (JohnCarter)

For those of you who noticed the other effect, it was the dust kicking up when he fell. smile

It's Official: The Static Shock movie is putting a shock to your system this September!
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 5:07am

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Just downloaded it. Jeesh! That's not the quality I'm watching it at on my produced file. Sorry guys! neutral Thought you were all just whining over nothing. Ul tri en ficks et. (cool, I wrote all weird!) smile
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 6:02am

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People get tired of watching those 'true-to-the-book' videos.
We'll see...
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See what?
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Wizard wrote:

Well atom to answer your question, I gave your movie the benefit of the doubt and gave it a three. My point was seeing you rate it up to a five even after I am pretty sure you said kind of early into submitting this film that there were things you didn't even like. It leaves me with the impression that you don't like your own movie, and are not proud of it, but just want to get a good rating, and that is why I said I felt like giving you a one...but I never said I would. Three is still how I feel, but I did almost tilt to a two. I am on the fence about it. Like I said, votes are not everything, if you got your friend an A then there is something to feel good about, my vote doesn't change the grade your friend got, which is the only thing you intended it for. In spite of all of this, keep making movies, there is something there, and I think you are going to submit a movie that will get a four or five from me, just work at it.

Wizard.
Come to any conclusion you want. I don't care. I think it's pretty stupid that you're writing all this, just to discredit me for a groundless reason.
As for your kind words: Thanks. smile I felt my movie was level five material, but, like all filmmakers, I always see something after the fact that I could've changed. However, the film accomplished its purpose, entertained the viewers, and therefore I gave it a five. smile
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I'm a viewer... It didn't entertain me...
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He means the teacher and the class whose project it was for.

EDIT: Actually, everytime we make a movie with Chase, the moptop guy, when its done and the final edit doesn't end up looking the best he goes, "See, I told you we should've made our movie more like Aculag's! HIS are good!"

And I'm serious about this. Everytime we do a test or something and it comes out bad, he ALWAYS says this.

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Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 7:16am

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I'm sorry atom if you think I am trying to discredit you, I was just trying to answer your question in as much detail as I can, so that maybe you will understand where I am coming from a little better. I actually wanted to not insult you, but I guess I did with out realizing it. Unless there is something else I guess this will be my last post concerning this, I have said all I can say about it and I will leave you with what I have been saying all along, there are of course things to change, just work on it and keep trying, I would like to see more work from you after this is all said and done.

Wizard.
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 7:18am

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Thanks Wizard. I would consider it being all said and done as of right.................................................................................................................................................................................now. hugegrin
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 8:15am

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Wow. It's Lord of the Flies. In Lego.

Is Chase Arrington a real name? Really?

The film showed a degree of technical competence - it was well shot and well edited - but nothing can disguise the fact that it's a gang of kids running around in Bermuda shorts hitting each other with sticks. A toga is just a simple tabard amd to make and spray paint some wooden swords would have taken just half a day.

So, I'd have given it a 2 on technical merit alone, but I'm going to shave 1 off for the foul "look at me look at me look how clever I am!" egotism compounded by the self-vote of five.

Having said that, Get a plot together and spend more than 8 seconds on preproduction and you may produce something pretty worthwhile.
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 4:05pm

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Except for the fact that we made this while we were camping, and we had no supplies whatsoever. There really was not that much time spent planning a story to tell the truth, but there was time spent gathering about 30 extras- most of which aren't in the final edit, making sure I had a clear, open area to shoot, and chopping down a dead tree so that everyone could hit eachother with a branch for the movie. While the end result may not show it, a LOT of thought and preparation was put into this. And to address a final issue, why would you not think Chase Arrington would be a real name?
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 4:12pm

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What good is a LOT of thoughts if the result doesn't show it? neutral
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You two kids slay me!

LOL!

You are definitely more entertaining than your movies (so far).

You want comments on your movie? I usually don't bother because you are dripping with so much pretense and inflated ego that I don't want to bother. But ben bothered to post something that takes a lot of maturity to admit and I give him credit for it.

So here goes my opinion:

There's three good points for it:

- Color correction. While not realistic, it was a good attempt at stylization and well executed.

- You didn't try to (badly) rip images from Big Hollywood release on this one so I guess that's good.

- There was some shots that were nicely framed.

The bad:

- A few nicely framed shots do not compensate for all the other average or bad ones. Try to be more consistent with the framing. There is potential there - just needs more work (and maybe less ego).

- The editing isn't there yet. There is something definitely, with a lot of good potential, but sometimes it's thrown out with weird cuts and odd choices. It's good to have a style and to break the rules, but try to learn the rules and understand why they are there before you break them. It would be more constructive I believe for what you are trying to achieve.

- No plot. No story. No characterization. Yet a pretentious opening establishing the setting of one of the greatest Greek tragedy... All right. I know you two have ego problems because some old ladies at your church are all amazed that you know how to press record on a camcorder while they are still trying to figure out how to set the clock on their VCRs. Good for you. But filmmaking isn't just about pretty moving pictures. It's hard work. It's telling a story with pictures. You have yet to achieve that in any way shape or form. It made me laugh at the end when you show credits with the characters these guys are supposed to play. I couldn't tell who was Achilles or Paris or Agamemnon. Because you never told or showed me who they were. This film could've worked if you had taken the time to establish who is who and why there was a conflict and so on.

Cutting off a dead tree, finding a location and gathering extras are part of filmmaking. I'm sorry, but you guys did not put a lot of thoughts into this. Maybe a lot of efforts, sure. But no thought at all went into this. What you depict is a bunch of kids bashing each other. No more, no less.

Why they are called Achilles or Agamemnon is besides the point. Heck, why the movie is called Odyssey makes no sense in light of the pictures you show us.

If you actually put half the energy and thoughts you expand bragging and insulting others into making your movies, I think you'd have something good to show for yourselves. And maybe then you'd earn your bragging rights.

Until then, you have a lot to learn. Keep it up though. There's something there.

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Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 4:49pm

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Thank you so muuch for the feedback. I know nobody wants excuses but the nicely framed shots were me and the poorly framed ones were because we were shooting in extremely sandy, damp, and COLD- believe it or not- conditions. Had I had a sport housing for my camera I would've framed them differently- better. Again thank you so much for commenting. My brother may talk about our movie atom here and there, but this is going to actually be good. I have already written 30 pages of the script and the character development is pretty good, from what people have told me. If you want an added in cameo in the movie or a copy of the script so far (it is of course not done yet) just PM me and I'll composite you in as an extra- that is, saying I get Chromanator soon.- or PM you the script. biggrin Thanks to everyone for commenting here and any help with our upcoming movies- atom and the promo would be appreciated.

Solthar: Exactly my point. This why I feel kinda bad about some of the stuff I do. Then Chase comes in saying, "It should've been like Aculag's stuff, or that kid Niko with the long hair's movies, or that 'the test' movie or..." and on and on and on. So expect better stuff which will show the hard work! smile
Posted: Fri, 6th Aug 2004, 8:09pm

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Chase Arringinton just has the ring of a fabulously made up name, that's all ... I have a friend called Nik Ransom and knew a girl named Brooke Deveraux and I've ended up using both their names in scripts simply because they are just so beautifully stagey.

While I think John Carter's getting a bit hot under the collar, he's essentially got a good point - Don't tell people how clever you are, show them, and then it'll be so much more satisfying when the praise does come rolling in.
Posted: Sun, 8th Aug 2004, 7:43pm

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I've been gone, and will be for a while, so I have somethings to put in order.

stagehand: Haha. It's funny because it's true. We make fun of him all the time!

Wizard: Thanks man.

JC: Thank you, (finally) for some positive and helpful insight. Aside from everything else, I was wondering if Recon will come out anywhere near my area. Is it going to be distributes in the U.S.? When? smile

Sollthar: Good point. But truthfully, it was FREEZING when we filmed, and time was a HUGE issue. smile

Anybody interested in our new movie atom, just PM me or ben3308 and we'll get you the info. (better to PM ben, though. I'm out and about.)
Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 7:11am

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Cool movie guys! Not the best movie out there but still cool! I don't know about the music; not the best choice. Still cool though, so i gave u a four. wink
Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 7:49am

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Rating: +1

Ok...Atom, ben. Don't be down, this movie showed potential and, I think that if you tried you could spit something good out. So keep your head up high and hang in there.
Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 8:25am

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Thanks, Super Man. We're trying hard to make our next film perfect in every way. We've actually spent a year and a half of just developing concepts and partial script, we even had a scientific consultant for our movie! This isn't just a, "I made a movie with my friends" type movie. We're actually casting here. It's gonna rock. Original Score, Feature Length, Original Music to use from local bands so as to avoid copyright issues if DVD sales are greenlighted. biggrin Atom(the movie, not the person) is gonna blow 'em all away. (With the exception of NightCast) hugegrin lol wink
Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 2:25pm

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Wow! Perhaps FXHome will develop a whole new ratings system with extra stars to accomodate it!

I believe that you should always be your own harshest critic, and we ALL know the old adage about chikens and unhatched eggs ...

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Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 2:28pm

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stqagehanduk wrote:

knew a girl named Brooke Deveraux
That's a HOT name. Please tell me that the character you wrote her as was a smouldering temptress...
Posted: Mon, 9th Aug 2004, 5:04pm

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Tough cookie, actually. She appeared as an original character in my stage version of Theatre of Blood. If you're interested I can email you the script and you can judge for yourself.

A little sample:

BROOKE
Hey, do you mind if I smoke?

GADSHILL
No Miss, not at all.

As BROOKE lights up and smokes,
GADSHILL gets out his pipe.

BROOKE
You never know. Some folks just hate it, right? Herb – that’s my last husband – he always liked to see me smoke. It was sort of his thing. We’d lie there at night and I’d feel him turn over in the dark and I’d know he was looking at me and then I’d hear this little voice … “smoke me a cigarette” … he loved that. “Smoke me a cigarette” … You know, just one of those things. He died of cancer. Ironic really, he never smoked in his life. But the Coroner’s report! Passive smoking my ass. He asked for it. Hey, you smoke a pipe?

GADSHILL
Not any more, no.

BROOKE
Right … So, tell me, is there a Mrs. Gadshill?

GADSHILL
Thirteen years last month.

BROOKE
That’s just great. Hey, Thirteen years! That’s some co-incidence. Me too.

GADSHILL, confused
You’ve been married for thirteen years?

BROOKE
Three plus six plus four .. yeah. In total.
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stqagehanduk wrote:
"Chase Arringinton just has the ring of a fabulously made up name, that's all ... I have a friend called Nik Ransom and knew a girl named Brooke Deveraux and I've ended up using both their names in scripts simply because they are just so beautifully stagey."

well, stqagehanduk, thank you. I'm very flattered, i'll thank my parents for you. biggrin
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in this film, you cant really tell who was odysseus or anybody

personally, i think its just a fight scene, that was supposably from homers book

i think there shoulda been more background, cause it kinda just made me think, wtf? whats that have to do with the odyssey.

1 star.
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Justin, it's great that you are watching old movies and all. But it is really pointless to comment on them, we know what's wrong with our 1 year + old films. None of your criticism is helpful due to the age of the thread, try commenting on newer active movies and just watch/rate old ones. These old movies are far out of the boundaries of our former skill level. You do realise the date on these films, don't you?
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justinjonesiscool wrote:

in this film, you cant really tell who was odysseus or anybody

personally, i think its just a fight scene, that was supposably from homers book

i think there shoulda been more background, cause it kinda just made me think, wtf? whats that have to do with the odyssey.

1 star.
Well...thanks, I guess. Trust me when I say we have improved since this. I still think the composition of this is good, regardless of the fact that it lacks purpose or story, it was simply made for fun. Seriously, this is old. Why'd you look it up?
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serpent, it doesnt matter how old they are.

if they are so old and you dont want people to comment it, you should take it off the cinema or fx home should.
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This thread is hilarious. And is even more hilarious because of my avatar.
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Every thread we wrote in from more than a year ago is hilarious....mainly because they all got locked.
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Serpent wrote:

Justin, it's great that you are watching old movies and all. But it is really pointless to comment on them, we know what's wrong with our 1 year + old films. None of your criticism is helpful due to the age of the thread, try commenting on newer active movies and just watch/rate old ones. These old movies are far out of the boundaries of our former skill level. You do realise the date on these films, don't you?
I just said commenting on an old film is pointless because they have moved on and know of their mistakes... I never judge movies on age. Though I always make it a consideration, it is not in this situation. You are allowed to leav old movies on the cinema. You missed the point by quite a bit. The cinema is a place to showcase your films, and at the current time, get criticism. Comments are great, but I am just saying no need to tell him what to fix. No need to turn this into a thing... But you have been doing it a lot lately, just giving you a heads up.