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good chromanator test clips??? greenscreening

Posted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004, 7:26am

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hey ive searched for them but i cant find a really well done greenscreen shot using chromanator.....ive seen some but they arent that great....im trying to find some really good vids...please help...
Posted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004, 8:41am

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Check out the Chromanator tutorials, they have several good examples of Chromanator in use.

http://fxhome.com/support/tutorials/list.php?cat=1

Also, here is a practical example using Lord of the Rings materials that I was dabbling with the other day....

Here is the actual completed shot from the movie:



This is what was shot on location:



This is a matte painting done by a rather skilled chap:



And here we have my version of the composite, done in Chromanator:



A few things to bear in mind:

1. I was working from a couple of low resolution jpegs, whereas the LotR people would have been working from the huge original digital matte painting and the full resolution scanned film source. This is why Frodo's hair has a slight blue tint, due to the low quality jpeg - although it's worth noting that the official composite also has a tint around his hair. So maybe they should have used Chromy!

2. I only spent about 10 minutes on it.

3. I expect the LotR equipment was considerably more expensive than Chromanator. wink

All-in-all, I think it's quite a good example of a good Chromanator composite.

You can download the pics and the Chromy project file from http://tarn.fxhome.com/lotrcomp if you like, to see exactly what I did and have a play yourself.

Chromanator is more than capable of handling just about any composite - but as with any creative software, the actual results depend on the skill and imagination of the filmmaker.

Thanks to theonering.net for the pics.

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Posted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004, 9:26am

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that really is some nice stuff you got there tarn
Posted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004, 4:43pm

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Here's My Attempt, put it together in 15 to 20 mins, plus some color grading. I completely removed the spill by drawing a seperate mask for the hair with the spill problem then color corrected it, which you can do in chromy.
Or use keylight which completely removes the spill with no problems. But when you can do it in chromy why use keylight? wink
Oh and that is pooky razz and the yellow shirt dude is my friend and the caped guy is..... you guessed it!



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Due to some reasons, will be/maybe up shortly

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Posted: Thu, 12th Aug 2004, 5:18pm

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this was fun practising.


about 10 minutes
by the way, do any of you guys play curling?
Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 3:51am

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Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 4:58am

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Ooh, this is turning into a good thread!
Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 5:07am

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Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 9:05am

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I like this.
Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 9:30am

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LOL nice evman101, nice but Hybrid-Halo isnt that just the final product from Movie with chromanator?? Correct Me If I'm Wrong.... biggrin
Oh and how bout this? Clickie
Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 12:44pm

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Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 2:56pm

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Tarn that one is just awsome, lets he whos blind and doesnt see the easter egg biggrin .
Posted: Sat, 14th Aug 2004, 3:48pm

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just outa curiousity, Tarn is that a photo of the Himalayas or somtin? biggrin
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billy3d wrote:

just outa curiousity, Tarn is that a photo of the Himalayas or somtin? biggrin
Billy3d sure is a curious one razz I'll answer one of your questions...

yes, that is dino the dinosaur wink

Actually, that's a little mean. You were right, my pic is the origional with the boxes put in. smile
Posted: Sun, 15th Aug 2004, 4:30am

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lol it dont matter, it was good anyways hybrid, mine dont look to fantastic either razz
Posted: Sun, 15th Aug 2004, 11:32pm

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billy3d wrote:

Here's My Attempt, put it together in 15 to 20 mins, plus some color grading. I completely removed the spill by drawing a seperate mask for the hair with the spill problem then color corrected it, which you can do in chromy.
Or use keylight which completely removes the spill with no problems. But when you can do it in chromy why use keylight? wink
Oh and that is pooky razz and the yellow shirt dude is my friend and the caped guy is..... you guessed it!


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Get me out of that darn pic, I don't want that original pic to be circulating the net. wink

EDIT: thanks

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Posted: Sun, 15th Aug 2004, 11:35pm

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Yeah, 'cause when someone sees you, they'll track you, and shoot you. wink
Posted: Sun, 15th Aug 2004, 11:37pm

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No, I just don't want it used like billy did smile
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 3:03am

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In a cut version of the movie, we see an early concept composite of "the all-seeing eye of Sauron"....
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 11:39am

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billy3d wrote:

just outa curiousity, Tarn is that a photo of the Himalayas or somtin? biggrin
Nope, it's a photo of the White Island volcano, New Zealand. It's generally out-of-bounds to visitors, as it's an important science station. The scientists set up a webcam there awhile back, to keep an eye on things.

Imagine their surprise when they got up one day to discover a small pink dinosaur had appeared....

Here's the live webcam feed:

http://www.geonet.org.nz/images/whiteis.jpg

Rather amusing, I think you'll agree. smile

Some info: http://www.volcano.si.edu/gvp/reports/volclist/vla00131.htm
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 3:42pm

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Boo ya!



Andrew biggrin

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Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 3:58pm

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lol tarn razz

pooky waccha so worried bout? People will think your into the LOTR movie and ask for your autographs biggrin

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Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 4:11pm

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billy3d wrote:

cutty waccha so worried bout? People will think your into the LOTR movie and ask for your autographs biggrin
Eh, don't you mean Pooky? razz
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 10:22pm

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How did you guys do that with those LOTR pics? I've tried but can't figure it out at all.
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 10:31pm

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A small hint:
Garbage mattes! (wink, wink) wink

Put a garbage matte on the part you need to key (frodo's hair...duh), and then use garbage mattes a second time to draw an outline around the edge of the mountains you want to keep from the original source footage. Then, you add another layer (the matte painting by the "rather skilled chap") and it should a. be keyed with Frodo's hair, and b. be added above where you drew a garbage matte around the edge of the mountains. Other's then added their own greenscreened footage to the final composite to personalise their picture. Hope this helps!
Posted: Mon, 16th Aug 2004, 10:32pm

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You only need two layers in total, in fact, as the garbage matte can be applied to the same clip as the keyed hair.
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 12:44am

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Really? I didn't know that. All the more reason to get Chromanator. I've had the money for a while now, but my parents won't buy it for me, even if I give them the cash, and I don't have a debit card yet. So I'll be getting Chromanator soon. (I may have to hire Shadowlight effects for some compositing and 3d work for Atom, as I woke up in the middle of the night last night, on the eve of the first day of school, and rewrote part of the script, writing in a chance for much more VFX, and better writing structure and character development. smile) Oh well. I just hope I get Chromy soon, because right now we're working on an entry for chuter's challenge.
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 1:49am

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whooo
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Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 5:39am

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Alright I figured it out. I wish I could make my own matts like that. I would post what mine looks like, but its exactly like all of yours.
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 12:21pm

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Pooky, don't worry. At least you know you have one admirer! redface OOh, ooh, ooh!
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 12:48pm

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neo_man89 wrote:

...but its exactly like all of yours.
Um! Actually mine far outshines all the others, ahem!

I mean, really. Look at the blue fringe around Frotto's hair -- oh wait! There isn't any!

Heh, go ahead and post it Neo_Man, so we can see it. And give ya tips if any. That's one point to this whole community.

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 1:38pm

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there's no blue fringe in my pic toooo biggrin