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Blank Firing Gun!

Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 10:47pm

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***UPDATE***

Ok, there's a video for your enjoyment!

Blank Firing Gun Test!

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Well, today I recieved my blank firing 1911 pistol via UPS. I must say I'm very pleased with it. It looks and feels just like the real thing.



I wanted to film some test shots with it today, but when I went to film, my camera was out of battery, so that's charging as I type this, but I might not be able to film anything today anyway, because when I went out into my backyard to fire it, it sounded like.. well, a gunshot. So it's far too loud to use at my house, which is in a wooded area. Lots of trees to echo from.

So either later tonight, or tomorrow evening, I'll have some video footage of the gun working so y'all can see it.

By the way, this gun and the blanks for it cost less than my gas blowback Airsoft pistol. So it's something to consider for those of you who are of age to buy the gun (18 years in the US) and the ammo (21 years in the US).

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Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 10:52pm

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Very nice. Looking foreward to seeing that baby in action! Just out of curiosity, how much did you pay for it? And also, where did you order it from?
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 10:54pm

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Gah I hate canadian gun rules! smile
Posted: Tue, 17th Aug 2004, 11:10pm

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It was $79, and the blanks were $19 at www.sportsmansguide.com.
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 12:27am

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thats awsome! man i want one, my crew and i have moved on to gas powered gun, but we have not got a gun that shoots blanks. man your lucky. i would love to see it in action.
lucky dog you. sleep
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 12:28am

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Wow, and I thought I was all spiffy with my new airsoft pistols! That's really cool, and I look forward to seeing it in a film. smile
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 9:48am

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cool - be careful with shooting someone at close range. Over-the-powder wadding and some powder shards act as a projectile that can compress the skull. Anything flying at a great speed can be lethal. But, hey, happy video killin. Had to throw this in - for those of you who don't know I'm a military weapons specialist and paramedic. I teach people how to kill people, but I can also repair em.
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 2:48pm

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When I went to Universal Studios (Hollywood) my family went on the VIP tour. No, not the kind that you just go and stand in line for, the one you reserve like a year before you go wink

One of the things on the agenda was to go and see The Wild Wild West Stunt Show. In the show of course they all (about 4 people) had an array of black-firing guns. But just seeing the show wasn't all we did, we got to stay after for about an hour for a little "behind the scenes thing"

One stuntman told us that when they were firing the guns, they didn't aim at each other, but rather a good amount of feet away, so if anything WAS fired, it wouldn't hit them. Of course from the house area (audience) you wouldn't see that because your perspective is reduced slightly.

They also showed us their airblown bullet hits in the ground, a huge water cannon and I got to smash a break-away bottle on the guys head. It wasn't anything special, but it was fun.

Just a little story.

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 3:12pm

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brandon lee diedf like that he held a blank firer up to his head shot and shards of stuff got lodged in his skulls and killed him
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 3:20pm

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I thought what happened was there was a real bullet in the gun and it got jammed, they put a blank in it and the blank made the real bullet fire and killed Brandon. I could be wrong though. Yea if you're going to fire that thing don't fire it directly at someone.
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 4:03pm

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Actually, even though I'm definitely going to be careful with it, the barrel is plugged, and the blanks don't have any wadding in them. There's this plastic lining that I thought would come out when it was fired, but it just opened up, similar to a shotgun. But yes, no worries, the barrel is tightly sealed, and I'm not going to try to unplug it. It's safety first, always.
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 7:31pm

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Just out of curiosity, when you fire the gun with blanks, do you get sparks, smoke, or any other element making it appear realistic? Sorry if this is a stupid question.... smile
Posted: Wed, 18th Aug 2004, 8:08pm

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Yes. Don't worry, I'll have clips later today.
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 7:37am

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Wheeee! A video!

Blank Firing Gun Tests!

The flash comes out of the top of the gun, which is a little disappointing, but since the barrel is plugged, it's the only place it can get out. Oh well... for now.... unsure
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 2:46pm

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Very interesting. I liked shots in the dark, where the muzzle flash illuminated the guy shooting. Can't wait to see this used in a film. smile
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 2:55pm

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The music from South Park is the best thing about that movie!

LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!

Nice gun as well smile
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 3:54pm

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Sweet! I bought one similar exept it's a Desert Eagle and shoots 8mm blanks. I got mine from Maxsell Corp, but it's no longer for sale on their site. sad kewl gun! biggrin



-Joel
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 8:13pm

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That's beautiful Joel. Can we see that in action?
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 8:23pm

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I don't have any ammo right now, but I'll order some and post a video! smile

-Joel
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 8:30pm

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Right on. I need to order more too. Went through 50 rounds yesterday...
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 8:31pm

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Joel, that d.e. is sick man... how much did that cost u?
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 8:40pm

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It was about $150
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 9:44pm

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stupid laws in my state prohibits them, o and aculag, do you want a 5.00$ coupon to sportsmans guide i have no use for it
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 10:17pm

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dude that is gonna look insane, and cool!!!
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 10:39pm

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tysets numora, protect my balls!

hehe this was sweet aculag
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 10:45pm

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Looks cool, except for the muzzle flash on top smile

PS I'm a gold user now! Weeeeee!
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 10:53pm

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Joel McDonald wrote:

Sweet! I bought one similar exept it's a Desert Eagle and shoots 8mm blanks. I got mine from Maxsell Corp, but it's no longer for sale on their site. sad kewl gun! biggrin

-Joel
I use to have one exactly like this many, many years ago, from a company called Scalemead (here in the UK). They were bought out by Pheonix I think. Anyway, I have no idea what happened to the gun. Perhaps my ex wife still has it eek

I found another one in my loft the other week, Beretta 92F, 8mm blank firing.

"9mm Beretta, 15 in the mag, one up the pipe, wide ejection port .... no feed jams. ".
"What you got in there?".
"4inch Smith".
"A lot of old timers carry those".


But no blanks for it frown

Not sure how easy it is to get blanks in England anymore. I'll have to do some searching.
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 11:24pm

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rcamuk wrote:



"9mm Beretta, 15 in the mag, one up the pipe, wide ejection port .... no feed jams. ".
"What you got in there?".
"4inch Smith".
"A lot of old timers carry those".


But no blanks for it frown

Not sure how easy it is to get blanks in England anymore. I'll have to do some searching.
Heh I've just finished watching Lethal Weapon, wierd.
http://battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/Battle_Orders_Blank_Firers_10.html
There's this place (UK Based) that sells blanks and the guns but there's all this stuff about converting them to real ones at the moment so they might be hard to purchase.
Posted: Thu, 19th Aug 2004, 11:28pm

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I didn't like it. the muzzle flash on top ruined it for me.
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2004, 1:22am

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nice smile but the muzzle flash spoiled it sad
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2004, 3:51am

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Since it's coming out of the top, it shouldn't be called a muzzle flash should it?

Shell Ejector Flash. Heh.
Posted: Fri, 20th Aug 2004, 11:30am

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Rawree wrote:



http://battleorders.co.uk/acatalog/Battle_Orders_Blank_Firers_10.html
Sweet site biggrin
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pooky wrote:

PS I'm a gold user now! Weeeeee!
Congratulations on finally buying Alamdv! smile
Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2004, 8:54am

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What a flincher! a bunch of girlymen afraid of they're newly purchased shell-ejection-flash-making pistol of pure performance and proper pimped-out pulchritude!



(Can someone really be this good? i sometimes wonder....)
Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2004, 6:24pm

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You should come shoot it with us next time, all mighty one.
Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2004, 9:29pm

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Try firing a Desert eagle .50 and watch as your elbow snaps. (wait, dont)

Either way, the great elders of havangrad have granted me my request. It being, i get to refuse to accept praise from people who are proficient in the art of japanese commercial parody.
Posted: Sat, 21st Aug 2004, 9:39pm

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You are a very odd person. And that's why I love you.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 12:42am

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Bryce007 wrote:

Try firing a Desert eagle .50 and watch as your elbow snaps.
With an empty magazine, the Desert Eagle pistol weigh approximately 4lbs. 6.2 oz because it was deigned by a machinist named White(forgot his first name). White worked in a machine shop and designed the first model there. Being made of scrap medal around the shop, the first model was a very massive gun and therefor has practicaly no recoil!

I read this in a National Rifle Assosiation magazine and a guy my dad knows who owns a gun shop told me when I was looking at one. MAN!, they are heavy!
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 1:03am

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Yeah people always get it into their heads that it would be cool to use blank firing guns for filming but they arnt really that suitable.

The 2 main problems are that the flash comes out of the wrong place unless its a special one made for filming and also that you cant record the sound properly as it cant be picked up well on a regular mic.

Other problems include the hassle of safety and loudness and stuff restricting how close people can be or whatever and also the cost of buying blanks all the time.

The action is cool though, but overall I think regular or gas bb guns are better.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 2:23am

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I think your mom is better.
Posted: Sun, 22nd Aug 2004, 2:40am

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Heh sidewinder is having a good time because hes leaving wink.
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the gun was designed and produced by Magnum Research. Also, the gun Does kick alot, as it is gas operated. Believe me, when that slide slams back all the way, you definately feel it. Maybe not the same as say, a 454 casull, which is the devil incarnate, as far as pistols go.




Not only am i odd, im also wearing someone elses pants.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2004, 12:43am

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Bryce007 wrote:

Not only am i odd, im also wearing someone elses pants.
That's hot.
Posted: Mon, 23rd Aug 2004, 5:09am

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You act like sidewinder is going to Mars without an internet connection or something. He and Mecha will just be in different places is all. Clueless...

Canta unsure
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Ive got to hand it to you, thats officially the most creepy thing ive heard in quite some time.
Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004, 2:31am

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nice, to bad it can't be used in a film

What a flincher! a bunch of girlymen afraid of they're newly purchased shell-ejection-flash-making pistol
that's just what I was thinking razz
Posted: Thu, 26th Aug 2004, 3:21am

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Nice overall, yes, if u like to play with gun. Otherwise, its not very functional. It's kind of funny how much you guys know about guns. It's cool, but also very unsettling. I bunch of teenagers (like myself) or a 21 year old playing with a bunch of guns.
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xbreaka wrote:

brandon lee diedf like that he held a blank firer up to his head shot and shards of stuff got lodged in his skulls and killed him
Wrong.

Kyeju wrote:

I thought what happened was there was a real bullet in the gun and it got jammed, they put a blank in it and the blank made the real bullet fire and killed Brandon. I could be wrong though. Yea if you're going to fire that thing don't fire it directly at someone.
Very close.

In the Crow, they decided to use real bullets for part of filming to save on costs. They took real bullets, pulled the bullet out of the casing, emptied out the power and fired the cap. Then they put the bullet back into the casing. This gave them, in effect, dummy bullets. Purely harmless, they had no charge.

The scene they used the makeshift dummy bullets in was in Funboy's apartment. They needed a shot in which Funboy pointed his gun towards the camera, and since it was a revolver they needed to show that it was loaded (you can see the bullets in a revolver's chamber when it's facing you). So they put the dummy bullets into the gun, and filmed a shot where Funboy cocks the revolver. After completing this shot, a crewmember dry-fired the cocked revolver and then removed the dummy bullets to prepare for the blanks. However, one of the bullet tips came out of the casing and was left sitting in the barrel of the gun. The prior removal of the bullets from the casings to make the dummy bullets had loosened the bullets and thus one was left in the gun inadvertantly.

The blanks were loaded and the gun was fired. Blanks tend to have around twice the amount of powder than normal bullets in order to create the proper sound (the big sound in a real gun is part powder ignition and part bullet ejection... think of the sound of a cork popping out of a bottle with a lot more force and speed). Therefore, the lodged bullet tip was sent out of the barrel with tremendous force. The bullet went through Brandon Lee's abdomen and perforated several organs before coming to a rest at his spine. He died a few hours later.

And contrary to what you may think you see in the film itself, or what others claim to have seen at one time or another as "bootleg" footage, the actual film footage of the accident does NOT exist.. it's not in the film, and it was destroyed very soon after the incident.
Posted: Mon, 30th Aug 2004, 9:14pm

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i thought you didnt need a license to buy blanks and blank firing guns...
Posted: Tue, 31st Aug 2004, 9:14pm

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You don't.
Posted: Tue, 31st Aug 2004, 9:45pm

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Another thing that sucks about using blank guns is that people call the cops when they hear gunshots. Especially if they are heard from inside a house and/or in a residential area - suburbs and junk.

We got permission from the cops to shoot a movie with fake guns on public property on the condition that we did not use live ammunition (which blanks are considered to be). They said if we were - they would not allow unless we applied for insurance and permits for noise ordinance waivers. We also would have had to pay cops to be present during the filming. Though, I too own a blank firing gun and have used it on film (without firing blanks) in Fallen Angel - It's much easier to get away with "guerilla" filmmaking when using plastic airsoft guns. BLANK GUNS ARE STILL FUN THOUGH!! And if you have a liberal family - its sometimes fun to scare your little brother or sister with it when he/she least expects it.

The best looking muzzle flash i've ever gotten on film is in our matrix movie - we used a gas blowback desert eagle - of course this gun cost considerably more than even aculag's blank gun - (about 120 bucks) - but it looks sweet as hell when you dry fire it with gas in it and add alam effects in post. All the smoke blasts from the gun when u shoot it the first couple of times after loading the gas. I'm sure it's pretty similar for other gas blowback models - so if you want ease of use and quality look on film - best to go with those I think.

PS: After the first 2 or 3 gunshots from our matrix movie - the rest suck - so don't think I mean those ones....just the first one or two from the agent's desert eagle.