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Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 1:27pm

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As most of you know, the core FXhome team consists of just four people - Schwar, Malone, Tim and Tarn. However, over the years we have had several talented people help us out on specific projects, one of whom was Dave Cherry - aka talented DJ Andromeda and composer of several pieces of music that were used in the AlamDV2 trailers.

His latest project, Bass City, is designed specifically for testing the audio abilities of in-car entertainment systems. Bass City Volume 2 debuted at the Max Power Live car show in Birmingham and is proving to be quite a hit with audiophiles who are on the move.

This is where you come in. Dave is looking for a music video to accompany one of his tracks and he has decided to let FXhomers have the first crack at it. The track is called 'Bass Exerciser' and he's looking for anything "off the wall" - Dave's initial concepts were for various car audio components to be working out in a gym, to the beat of the track, using a mixture of 3D CG, AlamDV and Chromanator.

Dave has big ambitions for the video and therefore it would have to be a high quality production. "I am getting more and more exposure all the time," he says, "so this could be a very good opportunity for the video artist with the most novel ideas." If somebody comes up with a good enough video it will be posted on Dave's websites and distributed on REDLINE's next DVD magazine, which has a circulation of 80,000. However, Dave also hopes to submit it to cable TV stations such as MTV Europe and The Box, for which there may be royalties - though he can't promise anything at this stage.

For those of you that are interested, the track in question as well as some source images can be downloaded from http://tarn.fxhome.com/andromeda. Dave's hoping that someone can come up with something good in the next six weeks, so the start of October is when you should be aiming for.

Contact Dave for more details at andromeda@andromedacity.com. Good luck to anyone that decides to have a go!
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 1:46pm

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I didn't quite get you there Tarn, do you want us to make a movie?
With our without sound? Are we supose to edit the hole thing our self? The song was very cool though. I'll try to make something.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 1:52pm

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He's saying there is a composer who would like a movie made by Fxhomers to accompany that track.

Sounds good - I'll have a crack at it. Not sure whether I can make that deadline though..got 15 hours of footage to edit for work.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 1:54pm

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MAKE A MUSIC VIDEO with the given track.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 1:54pm

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Does anyone know what components a car audio system has?
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 2:00pm

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Check out http://www.caraudiodirect.co.uk/ - it has lots of pictures of different bits and pieces. Might be good for reference.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 2:03pm

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They generally feature a wax cylinder that holds the audio recording, a hand crank to operate the machine, and a trumpet to reproduce the sound, small dog is optional.



I think choosing a faster more exciting track would result in a better music video though...
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 2:27pm

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I'd like in on this.

I could possibly split up animation between me and a few others on here.

Are we doing this for free, as of now?


Edit: After hearing the song, I don't think showing speakers working out would really cut it. I think a more trippy/visual music video would be better, like having floating speakers emit visible sound.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 2:38pm

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I was thinking more of having the camera zip in and around the inner workings of a parked car, zipping from one speaker to the next and each component. Kinda Fast & The Furious style...could have the entire car start to rock to the beat, with light streaming out of the windows. smile

Unfortunately I don't have time to have a go myself, but I can't wait to see what you guys come up with.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 2:53pm

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I know my work so far hasn't been great, but as of my birthday (September 16th) I will have access to a better camera, and my music video skills are decent. And, I have access to very talented breakdancers. I will also have a giant greenscreen. If a kid like me were to produce something good enough, would it be possible that mine was used, though it probably won't, but I can take a whack at it, right?

EDIT: Mainly just for fun. wink

EDIT again: And, the people who aren't good at 3d ciuld make it, and 2 or more videos could be combined. Just another idea.

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Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 3:14pm

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How about having two cars racing around on a huge speaker that's pulsating in time with the music. You could add in loads of bright FX in the background and have stuff flying around to be the "music". Then at the end you could pull back and have the "race track" be one of the speakers in the back of an actual car and have this car just drive off.

Edit: Quickest +1 I've ever got wink
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 3:20pm

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That, Rawree, would be PURE awesome.

Great music by the way. biggrin
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 4:09pm

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Wow sweet music smile

I vote for Rawree's idea razz
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 4:47pm

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Well, I guess this is more for the 3d specialists. Wish u all good luck and I wish I could help sad

Anyways still have to listen to the music, my internet is crap, hardly can surf websites sad

Cheers,
devilskater

p.s: AND YES, rawrees idead is kinda cool wink
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 9:21pm

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Perhaps all the videos could be mixed together? As in, Dave selects the best bits from each video and ties them together in some uber-funky manner?

Just an idea smile

Cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Fri, 27th Aug 2004, 9:42pm

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It's great to see there is interest in this, Cant wait to see what you guys come up with.
And I would like to say a big thankyou to all the guys at FXH for putiing this up for me.

If you would like more background info on what I do please visit the websites:

WWW.ANDROMEDACITY.COM
WWW.BASSCITY.CO.UK
WWW.VISIONBEATS.COM

Alternatively as mentioned, you can email me personally with any questions or comments using this email: andromeda@andromedacity.com
or just post here, I will check back frequently.

Many thanks

Dave

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Posted: Sat, 28th Aug 2004, 6:07am

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I'd offer but I hold a price. I'm out.
Posted: Sat, 28th Aug 2004, 9:37am

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Serdar3500 wrote:

I'd offer but I hold a price. I'm out.
If I make money out of this vid, the author will be rewarded accordingly, thats all I can say. If you ain't in it , you can't win it!

We all start somewhere, I've done lots of projects for nothing or very little reward. But I can say that what goes around comes around in the end.

Do you not require publicty/promotion and exposure then??

That is free.


From ANDROMEDA
Posted: Sat, 28th Aug 2004, 11:07am

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Firstly how long is the track, and secondly do you have to use either chromanator or alam DV
Posted: Sat, 28th Aug 2004, 12:20pm

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The video machine wrote:

Firstly how long is the track, and secondly do you have to use either chromanator or alam DV
I made it short to help you guys out, it is only

2 min and 32 seconds long

You can use whatever program/s you like as long as you use at least 1 FXH product.

A note to all:

This project is not restricted to the 3D artist; great visuals can still be achieved using 2D progs. So please have a go at it.

The exercise thing is just an idea I had for obvious reasons. But do not restrict yourself to this if you have other ideas.
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 3:06am

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STROBE wrote:

Serdar3500 wrote:

I'd offer but I hold a price. I'm out.
If I make money out of this vid, the author will be rewarded accordingly, thats all I can say. If you ain't in it , you can't win it!

We all start somewhere, I've done lots of projects for nothing or very little reward. But I can say that what goes around comes around in the end.

Do you not require publicty/promotion and exposure then??

That is free.


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I already have started somewhere. Though the videos are unreleased (pending the release of an album), I take the money upfront in a contracted deal. I don't have a need to play the "If I make money you make money" game because I'm past that stage. If you would like to offer me something upfront, I can help you. Unfortunately I'm pretty booked for about 2 months.

I already have the publicity and exposure from my current client.

Thanks for taking interest though.
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 10:21am

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Must be a good client if they give you ALL the promotion/exposure you ever need. I for one have discovered that you can never have enough of it!

Is there anywhere that I can see examples of your work, you don't seem to have submitted any films?

And your web site is in-oprative.

I would be interested in seeing some of your work , please post a link or whatever.

Thanks
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 4:00pm

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Damn Serdar... when'd u go hollywood on us? Ha, I might get a -1 for this but you just sounded big headed as anything in your last post man.

-Chris
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 4:19pm

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2 ideas-

Show different athletic activities, but in each one, a large string bass is present-i.e. track runner with bass as baton, fencing with a bass, rowing in a bass, american football with a bass as ball, bass as cricket bat or wicket, etc.

The "Bass Exorcist" (or Exorciser) It's a bad pun- "foul spirits, I command thee: begone! Leave this bass." (show someone banishing foul spirits from speakers, bass guitar, etc.)
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 5:30pm

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I am a 3d artist so if any of u guys need a good 3d artist or composer or editer just PM ill see what i can fix up. I can do pretty much most of the weirdest stuff.

Good luck to the others
Posted: Sun, 29th Aug 2004, 5:55pm

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Rypcat... A bass guitar has nothing to do with it. Stick with speakers and subs.
Posted: Mon, 30th Aug 2004, 7:54am

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CX3 wrote:

Damn Serdar... when'd u go hollywood on us? Ha, I might get a -1 for this but you just sounded big headed as anything in your last post man.

-Chris
I use a level 5 scroll of Minus One, then cast level 13 Iron Maiden on you.

And to the other guy, I haven't posted anything on here because all my work is under contract, so I can't show any clips or anything, aside from that little video that was on here w while ago. You gatta dig for that. DVD releases in Tower Records and hopefully FYE next year. Website is being redesigned by a nice young lady for me.

I'm not trying to sound hot-shot or anything. Explaining myself is all it is.

EDITED: If you'd like to wait about 2 months or so, or maybe even make a completely different video then, I'll contact you when I'm available. I can show you my work then. I run a very "written" business here so I won't break contracts.

EDITED 2:
Must be a good client if they give you ALL the promotion/exposure you ever need.
They are known across the globe including Canada, Germany, England, US West and East Coast, Hawaii (very big there). Granted that won't be everything I need, but don't you say it's a great start?
Posted: Tue, 31st Aug 2004, 3:25am

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I use a level 5 scroll of Minus One, then cast level 13 Iron Maiden on you.
Oh yeah?! Well I.... I confused ....... I dont know what that is.... frown

-Chris
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Iron Maiden is where if you attack me, it hits you back double.
Posted: Wed, 1st Sep 2004, 9:12pm

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Look, stop going off subject and stop arguing this blokes gotta have a music vid by october and by the time u 2 stop it'll be way past then

SO... shut up and get working

TVM
Posted: Thu, 2nd Sep 2004, 12:09am

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The video machine wrote:

Look, stop going off subject and stop arguing this blokes gotta have a music vid by october and by the time u 2 stop it'll be way past then

SO... shut up and get working

TVM
There was no argueing here. But from the sound of it, you want a nice argument yourself.

EDIT: Argueing = arguing.
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Strobe, you're not gonna get a music video for free. It's not exactly a win-win situation.
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It's a perfectly win-win situation if someone creates a video that is of a high enough quality to be distributed and gain attention. It would help the profile of both the filmmaker and the musician. If the filmmaker was interested in getting into the business, it could be a useful calling card.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Sep 2004, 6:12pm

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Look, stop going off subject and stop arguing this blokes gotta have a music vid by october and by the time u 2 stop it'll be way past then

SO... shut up and get working

TVM
Yo.. we were just joking.. chill.. And also, im not working on this. I would like to but were workin on another short as of right now. Thanks tho...

-Chris

and i agree, it would be good recognition..
Posted: Thu, 2nd Sep 2004, 9:20pm

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Tarn,

But to create something of high enough quality to be noticed takes much more than a week or two of effort. To make a professional music video, which is what you'd need if it were to be noticed, and to do it for free, isn't really a fair proposition.

Take DXM for example. That took us ten months. Now, to do something at that quality level again might not take as long, but we're still talking about months of work, on someone's else's project, with the promise that we might get noticed.

If Strobe can settle for a music video that someone might throw together in a few days for practice, that's fine. I just don't think he's gonna get much more.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Sep 2004, 9:35pm

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sidewinder wrote:

Tarn,

But to create something of high enough quality to be noticed takes much more than a week or two of effort. To make a professional music video, which is what you'd need if it were to be noticed, and to do it for free, isn't really a fair proposition.

Take DXM for example. That took us ten months. Now, to do something at that quality level again might not take as long, but we're still talking about months of work, on someone's else's project, with the promise that we might get noticed.

If Strobe can settle for a music video that someone might throw together in a few days for practice, that's fine. I just don't think he's gonna get much more.
Thank you.
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Look Guys,
I completely understand if you have other projects and don't want to risk your time on this one it's much the same for me with my music projects.

I have known the guys at FXH for some time (since ADV1) , I like to visit this website from time to time to see what's new.

I had noticed there were many registered users of this website (17,941 at the last count!) and just thought that this would be a chance for an up-and-coming video producer/artist to have a go at something a bit differnt from the norm, and possibly get some recognition and exposure.

For example: If they have done some video editing/animation before but have only recently discovered the delights of FXH software then maybe they want to test it out on something. Rather than scratching thier heads, thinking of what to do (another light sabre movie for example!, Yes Iv'e done it too!!)
they could have a go at this instead.

If you don't want to have go , thats fine. Maybe someone else will come up with something, maybe they won't, I have no idear what to expect in terms of quality and content.
But I am happy to look at the efforts of anybody who is willing to have a go at it.

Someone on here suggested I edit together sections from different users vids, this is not a bad idea and maybe it's another way to go.

Thanks for you interest and I'm sorry you can't help at this time.


STROBE
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Yay, that was me. smile I think if we all work together, we may come up with something.
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Now that's community spirit, if ever i heard it!

Nice one smile

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I'm not really trying to argue with you or anything, so please don't get me wrong. I understand where you're coming from.

this would be a chance for an up-and-coming video producer/artist to have a go at something a bit differnt from the norm, and possibly get some recognition and exposure.
I'm just saying that something like that isn't likely to happen. If it's an amateur-ish piece, it'll take less time, but get no recognition, and if it's a pro piece, it'll take lots and lots of time, but not get enough in the way of results to justify that much time spent on this project.

That's all I'm really trying to say. Other than that, I agree with you. If someone wants to still give it a go, whether for practice, or because they're inspired, by all means, go ahead.
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I would have to agree with some of the people on here about this. You see none of us would have a problem with making a music video but like Sidewinder said if you want one that is any good then you have to give someone time. That would definately be true if you are trying to shop this around to MTV Euro or any video house. The only reason the Beastie Boys are able to do it, is because they are known artists.

You see when you say "opportunity" that usually suggests that you are already in the process of getting signed and need a video made, or you have an "in" of sorts. That means that you as well as the person that makes the video benefits from the production. Now I just moved to Los Angeles, CA to try and make it here in the business. Now there are ALOT of people here that say, "Hey I have an opporunity to do something, want to make a video or movie for free?". Hell I have even said it to some of the actors here. Does that mean I have an "in"? No it just means that somewhere down the line I "might" be able to have that so-called opportunity.

Now I am not in any way putting you down in this but you have to present your situation a little better. I am happy that you are trying to include us, the fxhome community, in something that could go somewhere. Again the thing is, you have to give people time if you want something of substance. Also if you were to find someone you liked and they didn't live near you, I am sure that in some ways you would want to be in your video and not just by the pictures you put up as a file. Like have some footage shot of yourself and send it to that person and they can work it in somewhere.

Most of the projects on this site are either tests, or things that were done in a day, (even my crap contribution that will never be finished). The things that do shine(DXM, ART OF THE SABER, Movies made by the author CX3, to name a few) are the ones that had some time put to them and because of that it shows.

I am just saying in a business that is hard to break into, trust frm being down here I know, you have to give someone more of an incentive, also with the person your working with I would draw up some contracts as to what happens if it does get aired or what have you otherwise you are entering some legal problems.

Just my two cents, wait this is a long post make that 100 cents.

PEACE! and good luck Strobe!
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There are 3 parameters for movies and production in general.

Fast

Cheap

Good

You can only pick 2.

If you want it fast an cheap there is no way it can be good.

If you want it fast and good it won't be cheap.

And if you want it cheap and good, it can't be fast.

That is the filmmakers credo.

Canta unsure
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[quote="

If you want it fast an cheap there is no way it can be good.

[/quote]


You could be right, but there are exceptions to this rule.

Music example: Cher- "believe" remix, track was done in a guys bedroom using a handful of cheap gear. He did the whole thing in 2 days; it cost him nothing except his time.
He did not get an advance before doing it.
It did however sell in excess of 1 million copies worldwide after the event.

How good is was that?! biggrin
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cantaclaro wrote:

There are 3 parameters for movies and production in general.

Fast

Cheap

Good

You can only pick 2.

If you want it fast an cheap there is no way it can be good.

If you want it fast and good it won't be cheap.

And if you want it cheap and good, it can't be fast.

That is the filmmakers credo.

Canta unsure
That was deep.
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cantaclaro wrote:

There are 3 parameters for movies and production in general.

Fast

Cheap

Good

You can only pick 2.

If you want it fast an cheap there is no way it can be good.

If you want it fast and good it won't be cheap.

And if you want it cheap and good, it can't be fast.

That is the filmmakers credo.

Canta unsure
Whoa nice, +1. Now I'm gonna talk to Serpent about this.... biggrin
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I think its a good opportunity for the amateur filmmakers but I do understand serdar..

And strobe! I checked your site and the tunes. Sounds great ! biggrin and good luck with the video..

sayonara
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Music example: Cher- "believe" remix
I think u just backed up what Canta was saying even more... what a horrible song...
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Hi. My name is Logan, and I'm new to this forum. I can create a professional looking music video (for free, of course)...with a hopping low rider, MAYBE some crotch rockets doing tricks, some break dancing, etc.

...the problem is that I would need at least until November to complete this. I'll only do it if you want me to...you could have more than one music video for that song you know...and mine could be one of them...I just need some diverse pieces to add to my port folio, and your song is badass.

You can see some of my work at: www.LoganLProductions.com . That (green) site is temporary, until my new movie is completed in post.

Let me know what you think! Thanks!
Posted: Thu, 30th Sep 2004, 7:21pm

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The video machine

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Hey do u still need the vid I've just got 3dsmax so I'll b able to use it to do the video if your still interested I could probably get it done in like 2 weeks if I tryed really hard,
DAN
PS wat type of gym is it, a school gym or like one of those u hav to pay for with all th running machines and stuff?
Posted: Sun, 3rd Oct 2004, 8:27pm

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Well, I would make one if you replied, but since you never did; I'm going to stop paying attention to this thread. If you ever want me to make something for your music in the future, just email me at LoganL@LoganLProductions.com
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 12:56pm

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Hi,
Sorry for not replying sooner I normally get a reminder email that somebody has replied to this topic but I haven't been getting them.
and havent been on the site for a while.

To make it easy for everyone, I have extended the deadline.

If fact you can take as long as you like (no deadline).
I know people are short of time with there own projects so please, if any of you guys still want to have a go, please do so in your own time.
Take as long as you like.

Thanks for all your interest in this project

ANDROMEDA

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Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 10:49pm

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I may be able to film some breakdancers on a giant greenscreen, people can do what they want with it IF I ever get around to it. I finally got a GL-1, so it will be good quality. Maybe you'll get a better response STROBE, good luck.
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 1:32am

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Thanks for that Serpent, sounds cool, maybe of some use. if we end up doing an edit of bits from various users or something.
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 1:36am

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The video machine wrote:

wat type of gym is it, a school gym or like one of those u hav to pay for with all th running machines and stuff?
Whatever type you like my friend, tho I would prob lean toward the machinery type smile maybe a bit more scope there.
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 1:42am

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CX3 wrote:



I think u just backed up what Canta was saying even more... what a horrible song...
I never said the song was great biggrin , just the result vs outlay!
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 1:44am

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ultimate freak wrote:

strobe! I checked your site and the tunes. Sounds great ! biggrin and good luck with the video..

sayonara
Thanks for that. razz
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 1:52am

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LOGAN L Productions wrote:



...the problem is that I would need at least until November to complete video for that song you know...and mine could be one of them...I just need some diverse pieces to add to my port folio, and your song is badass.
You wish has been granted! , take all the time you need.
And thanks for the kind words re: the tune. Glad you like it! biggrin
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 2:36am

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cantaclaro wrote:

There are 3 parameters for movies and production in general.

Fast

Cheap

Good

You can only pick 2.

If you want it fast an cheap there is no way it can be good.

If you want it fast and good it won't be cheap.

And if you want it cheap and good, it can't be fast.

That is the filmmakers credo.

Canta unsure
To deviate off topic just a little here... Dreamscape was fast, cheap and good. And there have been other good fxhome productions that also meet all 3 criteria so I would think that your credo would only apply to Hollywood wink With all the time and money in the world, you can still create a movie void of any talent or skill.

Pretty much everything has been said,though I think this is less a task for a film maker as a it would seem to be for a digital artist/3d animator...
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 11:27pm

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Hi people, I'm back in the UK now.
How we doin? , has anyone had a play yet? smile

Bests
ANDROMEDA.
Posted: Mon, 29th Nov 2004, 8:40pm

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The video machine

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Hey Strobe, did you do the music for the Alam Dv2 trailer music because it says it was andromedacity thingy and then just now the same music was on fifth gear, I'm confused.
TVM
ps. about the music video i'd do the animation for the models as long as someone made them.
Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2004, 12:17am

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your correct, I do get about a bit!.


Well maybe you could team up with somebody on here and do just that.
"Calling all model makers"
Thanks for your interest.

Dave.