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The Lake

Posted: Tue, 14th Sep 2004, 10:43am

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After Hurricane Frances passed through Florida, little Billy woke to find that a lake had appeared near his backyard. However, there may be more than fish at the lake.........
Some of the movie isn't exactly self-explanatory, so it gets kind of confusing, but I tried my best.......
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Posted: Tue, 14th Sep 2004, 7:32pm

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Okay, this was by no means good, but it was LEAGUES better than your last movie. The plot was VERY confusing. The effects were kinda weird. The dad was too young to be a dad. The compression sucked. I couldn't hear a word anyone said. Some of your shots were too long and boring. Work on these things and you will do better next time.

2/5 for the effort.

P.S. - The sound choice did not fit the movie at all and I found it difficult to get past the titles...
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 4:04am

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The curse-ed plush T-Rex dolls strike again!
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 6:05am

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I didn't think the plot was confusing. It was easy to tell what was going on, but that wasn't much, and it went too fast, and it wasn't believable at all. And... what was going on with the guy at the end saying "thanks for coming to my banquet"?

Also, I thought the music choices in the credits were hilarious, although it didn't fit, and I'm guessing it wasn't intended to be hilarious.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 11:52am

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Okay, about the music. Like Aculag said, it wasn't really meant to be funny or anything, but I had just got that song and I loved it so I put it in there. The banquet was originally intended to be longer, but we edited it down, so it didn't make any sense. And finally, I was wondering if the file size was like doubled and the screen size enlarged, would people still be willing to wait for the bigger file to download?
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 3:41pm

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Deepcoiler wrote:

... I was wondering if the file size was like doubled and the screen size enlarged, would people still be willing to wait for the bigger file to download?
No. If it's just some kids movie I'll usually wait about 60 sec, and if it hasn't started yet, then... too bad. Someone really well known around here can usually get away with ridiculous file sizes... but it's usually never a problem.

I'd work on compression. It is very possible to get a small file and decent audio and picture quality.

Once you're well known around here you might be able to boost up the file size and still hold peoples interest.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 7:29pm

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the plot idea is actaully REALLY good. The whole idea of a lake appearing behind a house that is home to something freaky is a great idea. The only problem is that you didn't apply anything to it. I thought it was kind of cool when you were being dragged away by something you couldnt see, but other than that I found it to be a little incoherent, mostly because of the audio. I'd comment on the acting too, but hey, as the actor I am, who am I to complain?

I have a suggestion for you. I REALLY really like the plot to this, at least the outline you described in the description (ahyuck), and to be honest I think it was sort of wasted on this. I think if you re-shot the movie, just spent more time on it, and applied the plot you described, found music that is actually scary, and so on and so forth, this could be golden.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 8:00pm

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about the compression, i have mac os x jaguar and quick time pro. i use Sorenson 3 video with best quality and Qdesign2 i think audio at 44kh or summthin ate 340X280. that brings a 45 second movie to about 5 mb. and make sure at the bottom you select " prepare for streaming, fast start".

Tim
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 1:52am

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Keep it up... the more movies you make the better you'll get! smile
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 4:12am

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JamieC7 wrote:

Keep it up... the more movies you make the better you'll get! smile
However, this isn't ALWAYS the case *COUGH*georgelucas*COUGH*
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 4:08pm

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the major problems are the acting and the audio
but ure still a kid
its hard to learn this stuff at such a young age
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 4:50pm

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Hey! I like George Lucas! ;p

remember without him (and lightsabers) we might not possibly have had ALAMDV!
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 8:22pm

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It was ILM who inspired Alam, hence Amatuer light and magic in Alam. And George Lucas has gotten worse. Aculag never said he was bad.... Maybe he thinks it though. wink
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 8:27pm

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so THATS what it stands for! I feel like a jackass
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 8:38pm

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Haha. No, a lot of people don't know it. But you can still feel like a jack @$$ if you want.
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 8:43pm

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heh, now we just need to figure out what CSB stands for...
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 8:46pm

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Cool and Savy Brits
Cruncy Saucy Bits

im done with THAT

hey, do you think it's a possibility that you might do re-make of some sorts, because if not, id like to talk to you about something....
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 12:26am

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Yeah, I can do a remake, but there is one problem. When I was dragging my brother across the ground for the dragging scene he got like a million ant bites. If my mom sees my doing that again she'll kill me, so I'll have to figure something out.
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 12:33am

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Don't use your brother. Find someone else. Like a friend who LOOKS like your brother, and drag him thru the grass. Oh, and if you can't do that, mow the part of grass you're gonna be dragging him (your brother if nobody else is available) and spray some mild pesticide or put a little bit of that white ant powder over it two days before filming. Document what you do- mowing and spraying the lawn- show it to you mom, and she should be fine with your bro getting dragged. smile If not, then just tell your brother you need him for a short 'experiment' and he'll be rewaded for participating. Then, when you're done, tell him his reward is experience in acting and a credit in the movie.
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 1:53am

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I suggest choosing a diffrent location for dragging your actor, rather than a biting ant infested area. I hate ants...

Andrew biggrin
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 1:57am

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He might HAVE to film and that location, though. Sometimes you have to deal with what you have. For instance, about half of The Friendship was filmed in a sewer with outgrowing foliage. Ben just framed most of the shots to leave out the concrete and metal. The rest was filmed on a shady, ivy-infested side of a golf course. Lucky we didn't get hit by any balls or arrested by the warden for carrying airsoft and BB guns around everyone and aiming them at eachother- for the film, of course. hugegrin
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 3:11am

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Well, that me a bit of a problem. His house is surrounded by ants. He lives in Florida. Riley, try Kelly Park, in just a grassy area, I didn't see too many bugs there. Or just find a random grassy area away from your house.
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 2:20pm

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Not the worst I've ever seen, and actually had some good/interesting shots. But you broke a few too many rules of filming unsure Here's a few pointers...

The 180 rule - You'd have a shot where you're walking left to right, then right after another shot where you're walking right to left. It's confusing to watch. You have to remember that the audience won't be able to pick up on subtle landmarks and you'll need to make things more simple.

Continuity - Hood up, next shot Hood down. You have to watch this kind of thing. Putting in a small clip with him putting his hood from up to down would solve it but as it stands it felt broken. Some shots came out of nowhere and made no sense too... it's your job to tell a story to your audience... Keep that in mind wink

Transitions and Pacing - The reason why scary movies are scary isn't totally down to what is going on in a scene, but how you pace it and use editing techniques to make it scary. Watch a few horror scenes if you're able to and watch how they use editing techniques such as slow fades or fast cuts to create tension.

Music - My last gripe wink The rap music at the start wasn't very fitting of a horror/scary movie. A movie's introduction can help create an atmosphere which the rest of your movie builds upon. Maybe some creepy music that ran alongside the rest of the film would have been more appropriate.

That's about it, good luck with your future movie making smile
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 3:09pm

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Hey everybody, thanks a lot for all the feedback. I will get working on a remake. And one more thing. If you have ANY ideas for scenes or whatever that will explain the story better, please share them with me.
Again, thanks.
Posted: Sat, 18th Sep 2004, 3:42pm

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Rating: +1

to get a feel for what you can do to make a scary movie, with music and atomosphere I suggest you check out these FXHome Horror Classics:

REMEMBER
As Sombras de Gabriel
GHOST
Home Sick

Happy Watching razz
Posted: Tue, 21st Sep 2004, 9:03pm

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AAAAAAAAAAAAHH I HATE YOU! razz

we tried filming a horror in my yard when Frances turne it into a lake...but the batteries ran out and then the "lake" dissapeared into the local creek.
Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004, 8:00pm

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Rating: -2

ugh
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//random? -1
Posted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004, 3:35am

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That is possible the worst film on Fxhome.com this should not have even gotten the review it got what was that. I was lost with the almost retarted scenes added in stupid places. What happend the boy changed clothes, he is in a white sweather and red shorts and then in blue what is up with that. Sucks all the way Boo. No your a Boob.

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Posted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004, 3:41am

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Justin10139 wrote:

That is possible the worst film on Fxhome.com this should not have even gotten the review it got what was that. I was lost with the almost retarted scenes added in stupid places. What happend the boy changed clothes, he is in a white sweather and red shorts and then in blue what is up with that. Sucks all the way Boo.
constructive criticism at it's finest! Oh wait, scratch that, you're a boob.
Posted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004, 8:19pm

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horray for people who don't know what the hell they are doing and randomly decide to attack movies because they think their verdict is final and no one else's opinion matters!!!!

Say THAT 3 times fast!
Posted: Tue, 14th Dec 2004, 9:44pm

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Not the worst I've seen here at all. I think you're mostly let down by a) your audio & b) your compression. Your camerawork is promising & the effects used were good. Your muzzle flashs looked a little big but I liked the way you had splashes in the water when a character was shooting at the water.

I followed the plot, what was there of it. I liked the story but not the way you carried it out.

Overall, a 2, & here's some final pointers (I wouldn't give these if I didn't see some promise in your work):-

- make sure your audio is better next time (if you can, hook some headphones up to your camera)
- don't try to pad your story with lots of character walking shots
- try not to do creature movies because they're the least convincing unless you know 3d, e.g. Blender
- ensure your compression allows us to see more
- & make more films. Not everyone improves with their next film but that's the only way anyone can improve
Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 8:44pm

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Thanks Mel for your comments. The compression was really bad because back then I actually believed it made an overall size difference waaaay later if I compressed full quality out of adv, so I did medium. I think I will lean off the genre till I learn Blender. wink
As for Justin whatever the hell comes after that, just stop posting here. I know it's not the best in the world! That's why I put it here. To get help and make myself better. Everyone but you has been very helpful in building my skills. Get with the program next time boob.
Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 9:21pm

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Justin10139 wrote:

That is possible the worst film on Fxhome.com this should not have even gotten the review it got what was that. I was lost with the almost retarted scenes added in stupid places. What happend the boy changed clothes, he is in a white sweather and red shorts and then in blue what is up with that. Sucks all the way Boo. No your a Boob.
HAHA, you are a stupid little prick, go die. smile


Seriously you oughta'
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Rating: +1

Now now Serpent cut him some slack, he is obviously is a social retard with no friends and feels the need to criticise people to justify his existance.

Where's your movie Justin?...That's what I thought
Posted: Thu, 16th Dec 2004, 12:50am

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Serpent wrote:

HAHA, you are a stupid little prick, go die. smile


Seriously you oughta'

Rawree wrote:

Now now Serpent cut him some slack, he is obviously is a social retard with no friends and feels the need to criticise people to justify his existance.

Where's your movie Justin?...That's what I thought
You guys are the best! biggrin
Posted: Fri, 17th Dec 2004, 3:00am

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Ooh, I really liked this movie. Lake monsters are always good movies. I followed the plot easily, and thought it was really good.

If you are making a remake try to use different actors for adults. Such as parents or friend's parents. With the sea monster maybe you should use the "Bronze Dragon" plug-in. You could sue the stills. Or even use the DBZ Dragon Plug-In. Even though they aren't exactly sea monsters, you could use them.

Audio - Maybe you can construct your own sound stick? I have yet to try this, but if your camera supports it, use a microphone, strap it to a broom handle. You need to be careful with movements though, it supposedly picks up small movements as well. I dunno what you were using before, so yeah.

I'm quite new to film making (I'm currently saving all my money for AlamDV2) so I don't know if my suggestions will even work.

EDIT: Ack... I just saw that you had already amde the remake. Well, I guess my suggestions are just for anything you're planning. Sorry!
Posted: Thu, 23rd Dec 2004, 1:54am

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Hey no prob thanks for the comments. Glad you enjoyed it.
Posted: Wed, 29th Dec 2004, 5:34am

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No I would like to say sorry for that stuff I wrote, I was just having a bad day
I had just got in a fight with my dad and I was on the site and I found The Lake and I do no sorry for the review. It is not the best in the world but sorry for that. My film will come out Next Year. Yes I do got lots of friends, Plenty as can be said most for at least 7 Years. Good luck on your next film. (I am just trying to get cash for alamdv 2)