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Adding color

Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 1:32am

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Giacone

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I am new around here and haven't bought Chromanator yet, though I plan on it. My question: can you add color? For instance, I'm shooting a movie in black and white. I have plans to go back in with Chromantor and add in dashes of colors for certain areas. For example, I would RED for blood; add BLUE or GREEN in for eye color; add RED LINES to portray bloodshot eyes, etc.

Are these all features, just wishful thinking, or a dumb question?

Thanks for the help.

P.S. For the trial version, what is it? Do you get the full version for a limited amount of time or a limited version for an unlimited amount of time?
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:23am

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Grade the shot in Premiere, turn the greens all the way up, or reds, or what ever. Then put the original b/w shot on top layer, graded on bottom, and cut a hole out of the top layer, showing the bottom green. I used this method to make red demon eyes in Charlie. I hope this made sense.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:29am

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It seems pretty easy to understand, though I need to go hands on with the program to really get the gist of what you're saying. Is it particularly difficult to execute your suggestion? And does all color-implementation have to do with layers?
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:31am

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Giacone wrote:

For the trial version, what is it? Do you get the full version for a limited amount of time or a limited version for an unlimited amount of time?
The full version has an expire date, then you re-download it after the expire date. This is to prevent piracy and prohibit people from obtaining the software illegally. I'm sure Malone will be here momentarily to enlighten you. MALONE!
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:32am

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It's really easy. Simply take the video file, and make several different variations for all the colors you want by grading in Premiere/whatever you use. Then cut out a hole, and add a slight feather to make it flow better. The top layer should be your original, and all layers below are the colored ones.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:36am

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either that, or shoot in color, then put that layer on the top, mask out all but what you want to be color. Copy that layer underneath that layer in chromy, and desaturate till its b and w. That way you have the original color.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 2:36am

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The full version has an expire date, then you re-download it after the expire date. This is to prevent piracy and prohibit people from obtaining the software illegally. I'm sure Malone will be here momentarily to enlighten you. MALONE!
Thanks, I'll try the demo, then.

It's really easy. Simply take the video file, and make several different variations for all the colors you want by grading in Premiere/whatever you use. Then cut out a hole, and add a slight feather to make it flow better. The top layer should be your original, and all layers below are the colored ones.
And does the color look natural? Will it look goofy, or does that just depend on the skill of the user?

either that, or shoot in color, then put that layer on the top, mask out all but what you want to be color. Copy that layer underneath that layer in chromy, and desaturate till its b and w. That way you have the original color.


That woud work, I'll try that too ..but what about adding in colors that aren't natural? Say, a bloodshot effect for the eye. Would that be really difficult to pull off?
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 10:09am

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Indeed, if the colour exists on the set, then film in colour and drain the unwanted colour using Chromy (I'm planning on doing a Pleasantville style tutorial sometime soon).

If you want to specifically get red lines onto an eye, that's going to be tricky without painting it on frame-by-frame in Photoshop or something similar. If you want to give the whole eye a red bloodshot look, then you can do the filter technique that others have described - ie, create a red version of the footage, then mask it so that only the eye is visible, then stick it on top of the black and white clip.

The Chromanator demo gives you access to all its functions except rendering, saving etc.

Let us know if you have any questions about the program.
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 10:46am

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evman101 wrote:

either that, or shoot in color, then put that layer on the top, mask out all but what you want to be color. Copy that layer underneath that layer in chromy, and desaturate till its b and w. That way you have the original color.
Good evman101!! I was thinking just the same, (and you said it before tarn!) 1+

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(I'm planning on doing a Pleasantville style tutorial sometime soon).
yeah tarn, make as many tutorials as you want (or can), it whouldn't make me angry or something.... keep it upp. razz cool


Edit: Your tutorials are greeaaate tarn!! cool
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 9:23pm

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Giacone

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And can this stuff still be accomplished in the trial version?

Also, what is this 'Premiere' you speak of, Serpent? Does it come with Chromanator?
Posted: Wed, 15th Sep 2004, 10:04pm

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heh, no premiere is a 600 dollar plus editor made by adobe, which is a HUGE company. wink
Posted: Fri, 17th Sep 2004, 1:50am

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Nah, get it on an educational software site, like: http://acedemicsuperstore.com I bought Cinema 4d from them, 100$ off + extras. You need to be a student or a teacher though. Get a friend's kid to buy it for you and give 'em the money. You CAN legally exchange licenses. You can get it on ebay also, (buy from a good user) for 100-200, make sure it's legal though. wink