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So why do u make movies again?

Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2004, 10:15pm

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hey, im just wondering, why do people here make movies?

Im not talking about people in video class or in film school. Im talking about people like me, who try making movies. When someone asks u y u do it, i usually say its a hobby. But not all hobbies rely on dragging ur friends to act in front of a camera for 45 minutse.

And when ur done with a movie, if the movies bad, you just wasted a crap load of hours for nothign,.
And when someone asks y the hell are u making a movie for, my motivation just like gets totally destroyed...

anyone else?
Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2004, 11:11pm

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Cause the feeling of getting it right is like well different for different poeple I guess, but still sweet. Is there something you would rather be wasting your time doing?
Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2004, 11:38pm

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baseer wrote:

of a camera for 45 minutse.

And when ur done with a movie, if the movies bad, you just wasted a crap load of hours for nothign,.
And when someone asks y the hell are u making a movie for, my motivation just like gets totally destroyed...

anyone else?
Well, to me, filmmaking is a passion, like people who get into music, painting, or other activities, I do it for fun, and self satifaction. Even if a movie sucks, you still get the feeling of working hard and gaining experience, which is most helpful in the future. If you feel that you waste a crapload of hours on a bad film, then filmmaking probably isnt your thing. Seriously, are you asking how to keep your self-motivation up, when down about filmmaking? or are you just saying that we're all wasting our time?
Posted: Thu, 14th Oct 2004, 11:46pm

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I like to watch movies. Always have. The thought that I can make my own movies that I can enjoy, as well as letting other's enjoy enlightens me.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:51am

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i make movies too,

im saying, i dunno..... maybe im just lacking motivation. I mean, im not entering any film festivles, or schools... Does any here do wat i do? and make em for self satisfaction?
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:56am

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And if you make a film that turned out badly, you can always learn from your mistakes.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 4:04am

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yea but sometimes i wonder, where am i going with this? Could i make it big time? should i consider film school? who knows?
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 4:37am

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Have you read the book, "Rebel Without a Crew"? If you haven't and don't own it, go outside- it really shouldn't matter what age you are- and mow someone's law for 20 bucks. Then, go to the bookstore- or Amazon.com, whichever's more conveient- and buy the book. Then read it and come back to me. I just finished reading it and I'm almost absolutely sure it will get you reinspired and wanting to make movies again. I wish I could tell you why we make movies. But that's just the thing. We all make them for different reasons; and if you're making them solely for money, then I would advice you to stop making movies, because that is just wrong. Movies are supposed to be meaningful, not just videos made in a month to make a quick buck. All I can say at this point is that I make movies for fun and enjoyment, to see the look on the audiences' face when they watch the film- now go out and discover your reason.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 2:10pm

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Well put, Ben. I personally haven't entered any film festivals or received a check for any of my work either, baseer. So I'm in the same boat as you. I've asked myself the same questions about movie-making, especially when trying to coordinate my schedule with my friends' schedules to work in some planning or shoot time. I got together with a couple of my buddies from work and we made a 9-minute ghost hunting mockumentary bit. We just enjoyed watching the finished product ourselves. But when we showed it to others that we work with and saw them laughing, it was tremendously satisfying. That was the real defining moment for me as to what motivates me to make movies.

I enjoy telling stories. We all do. Just try to count the times you've said, "This one time, when I was little...." in conversations with people. And to use film to tell those stories is extremely powerful. I recently read that we are easily visually stimulated because the neural path from the eyes to the brain is very, very large. So much so that seeing something three times makes the same impression on the brain as actually experiencing it once. And sight is not the only sense you engage in filmmaking either.

People are also expressive and artistic by nature. Do you know anyone who doesn't sing in the shower or in their car? Filmmaking happens to be the art form that has captured your imagination and that affords you a great personal outlet for your innate artistic expression. Others may mock it at times, but they don't understand it. They don't understand that you're doing storyboards and standing behind the camera for the same reason that they spend hours in the weight room, building models or whatever. It is an expressive outlet that is a source of challenge, joy and fulfillment for you.

Don't get too bogged down in the details, base. You've chosen an art form that is guaranteed to evoke some sort of response. That response may be laughter, boredom, tears, or someone saying, "That's stupid" and driving to your house to beat you with a dead carp. I've done projects that have received all of those responses. We all have (haven't we? Tell me I'm not alone here!). But it attests to the power you wield as a filmmaker. You WILL get a response whether you're doing a fan film, a comedy short, just goofing off or making a statement about an issue that's important to you. Film is a powerful medium and a major venue of philosophy.

So keep at it. Seek to improve your technique with each project, however short or stupid it may be. Above all, be creative and ENJOY it. And for God's sake, PLEASE find an alternative to the bullet time spin.

My name's Rex, and I'm a storyteller. And the scale marks from the carp are healing up nicely.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 2:26pm

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Answering the origional question without an essay;

...For the fun of it.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 2:33pm

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To qoute the best post here so far:

Hybrid-Halo wrote:

...For the fun of it.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 2:53pm

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rex and ben, great posts.


Thats y I starting doing film. WHen u see a film, thats reallly powerful. Even if its something like action or something.... I remember the first time i watched the Matrix Reloaded teaser trailer, I was soooo exited, i got chills down my back. And the first time i saw the teaser for spiderman 1, with the twin towers, its powerful man. The music, is soo important to me.

I see film as not only fun, but as expression. I can show others my views in a way that can do nothing but catch them and shake em. Im not looking for money at all, i do it for self satisfaction too guys.

I really wanna make a kick ass fightscene and car chase with trance. making a car chase is one of the most difficult things to do. I had some footage, but 1/2 of it got lost.

I have one 10 minute movie, that took about 5 total hours of raw shooting. Im hoping to put it up soon wink
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:10pm

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Me, I've always enjoyed literature. I like to write, but... movies seem to get me more than text does. For that one and a half hours, you can turn an idea into reality, you can put someone in space, or underwater.

For me, its a way of exploring and discovering new places without actually going there. I don't have $700 to spend on a plane ticket. But I've got a Hi8 camera, some editing programs, and a firewire card/cable, so I'm good to go.

I just know when I've made a good movie, and that feeling is priceless. Satisfaction at it's best.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:10pm

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Because it's FUN!
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:19pm

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As said before, it's fun.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 3:28pm

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To take over the world!
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 4:42pm

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personally Im addicted, if Im not filming im sitting on my couch...red eyed and shaking for hours... and since my editing equipment stopped working in June, Ive been doing a lot of that.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 4:59pm

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It's entirely natural...

Most humans enjoy 'making things' biggrin

And there's the satisfying feeling when you see the finished product, just like with all things in life.
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 5:02pm

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its even more satisfying, if other people enjoy the things you did ^^
Posted: Sat, 16th Oct 2004, 1:09am

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Cuz it is fun.. Why else? Entertainment for you and others, for people to say good job, watch people react. When I watch a good movie made by me with other people, I watch them, not the movie, because I have seen that over and ove, sometimes frame by frame with myself. o_0
Posted: Sat, 16th Oct 2004, 8:19pm

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As said by lots of others: Because it is fun.
There is the fun of working on a movie. There is the fun of showing a finished movie and people reacting to it. Reacting even better then you expected. And then there is the fun of learning new stuff.

That last bit is fairly personal but I have noticed that for me to enjoy doing whatever I am doing I need to be learning stuff and improve whatever I am doing.

Besides that I have a fairly active imagination which is mainly visual. It would be great if I can visualise to others those things I can create in my head. As an avid lover of science fiction I really would like to create some of the worlds I have been reading about. Of course, to achieve this I need to be a lot btter then I am now so for now it is practicing and learning. (with the learning being a goal in itself)

Regards, Eelco
Posted: Sat, 16th Oct 2004, 10:53pm

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beacuse im a camoholic!
Posted: Sat, 16th Oct 2004, 11:48pm

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To some people its a hobbie, to other it means more. Some people make short films to improve their skills and knowledge in movie making. Like myself I hope to obtain a career in the film industry someday making my own films. The more work you put in the better, you can learn so much on your own.

I realized it was the experience that had gotten me where I was. If you want to learn the guitar, you don't take a couple of guitar classes and expect to do anything innovative. You practice in your garage until your fingers bleed. - Rob Rodriguez (Rebel Without a Crew)

Keep making those films wink
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 5:58am

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ITs the satisfaction of some thing you made. take pride in your movies dude and dont let them ever suck not every body can do what people do here
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 6:08am

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creating movies takes a temendouse amount of talent... excuse spelling

u gotta work with:

-literature writting story, script....

- audio, music used 2 communicate mood

- visual comunication

- technology - special fx

Eveything takes great skill. ANd when one this is not done well, thats when u got movies that have ratings under 4.

If these 4 aspects are achieved effiently, the movie can make 5.


Im gettting a host for my movie today. Im really pissed that i didnt get my 3d intros in. Thats ok tho, ill put it in the next one.
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 5:16pm

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Well for me it just started out as being something fun, and I loved the reaction I got from how impressed friends were when I put stuff together. Even back when I was recording stuff from one VCR to the other with titles made from pieces of paper! biggrin

I don't think I'm the sort who can do a regular desk job, so when I looked for higher education, this was the industry I wanted to go into. As its a mix of hard practical work, and its also a fun and satasfying job.
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 5:44pm

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Well yes, I obviously do it because it's fun. But people on my swim team think of me as the moviemaker, so when ever they come over I have to have something new to show them.....wink
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 9:37pm

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wdy wrote:

I realized it was the experience that had gotten me where I was. If you want to learn the guitar, you don't take a couple of guitar classes and expect to do anything innovative. You practice in your garage until your fingers bleed. - Rob Rodriguez (Rebel Without a Crew)

Keep making those films wink
I was just about to quote that. You beat me to it!
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 7:42pm

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I Never even thought about making a movie until I found alamdv about two years ago...Dont even remember how I found the site..but when i read what alamdv was and what u could do with it..I downloaded the demo,then about 12 hours later a bought the full verison of it...I just got hooked on it.

I've never posted one of my mini movies here or anywhere before..the only people who has seen them is family.They get a kick out of the stuff i can do with it.Then when my nephews come over they nag me til i do a little movie with them,and now the whole family gets in to the act of it smile

So,I guess I still do it for the fun of it,and My family has fun to watching them,and acting in them...

try geting your family to do one with you..Not sure if your still living at home or already out of your own...But I didnt think my wife or brothers,sisters,mom etc..would want to be in one..so i never ask..after seening how much fun i had doing them...they wanted in

Its pretty Neat to seat back after the filmings done,editing,adding the effects..and watch it with them...I'm having more fun with them,then i did by my self...

I think that may be why most people lose intrest in making movies ..they do it alone..Get someone to do it with u..even just one person would make it better..

but im just rattling on smile
Posted: Wed, 20th Oct 2004, 12:00am

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ben3308 wrote:

I was just about to quote that. You beat me to it!
Have you read it? (Rebel Without a Crew) Wicked book, Andreas toll me about it and it caught my eye.
Posted: Wed, 20th Oct 2004, 3:31am

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yea i guesse thats my problem. My friends arnt really that enthusiastic about it. They never ask me too shoot, and i feel wierd asking someone to come in front of a camera for 3 hours
Posted: Wed, 20th Oct 2004, 5:30am

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I make movies to prove that I'm better than you. Also because I need money to fuel my opium habit.
Posted: Fri, 22nd Oct 2004, 6:31pm

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Mmm Opium.

Sometimes I really don't feel like filming. I really wanted to on wednesday night and it was organised for thursday night, I woke up on the thursday morning to hear a phone message from my lead actor cancelling. Now we're filming tonight and I really don't feel like it. Partially 'cos it's friday night and I'd rather be off getting laid or at least getting wasted, partially 'cos I'm knackered and also 'cos of fear of failure. I'm just trying to get jacked up before I start right now. I've just watched the "El Mariachi" ten minute film school and that didn't work.

EDIT: just found the "House of flying daggers" trailer that might work. Oh yeah and by the by, I've not been on the site for a while any good films come out over here?
Posted: Fri, 22nd Oct 2004, 8:04pm

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Half-Life: The Movie