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flying over water?

Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 4:02pm

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Mugsy42

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Anyone got any ideas for how i can do a flying over water shot , you know like a plane skimming close to the water but the camera is actually looking at the water. Please no comments about "oicould flyu over water and film it " or " you could use the bath" lol.

Cheers Guys
Posted: Fri, 15th Oct 2004, 5:39pm

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I must sound like the poster boy for Bryce lately (because I've suggested it so many times) but you could make this easily in this app and several other 3D applications...

If you don't have any luck finding something and don't want to try your hand at it, let me know... it should be easy to make...
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 1:32am

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Thanks man i'll look into bryce, if i get snags i'll shout you.

Cheers
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 3:44am

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bryce is crap, try terragen or blender
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 4:35am

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Yes, I did say "other 3D apps" and while I highly disagree that Bryce is "crap", Terragen is probably the next best choice, although I don't have a lot of experience with it, I did make some pretty cool landscapes with it... Although I still found the Bryce interface to be easier.. for me... But now that I've moved on to Lightwave, I don't use either... And Blender would be a good choice IF you were going to do some more along the 3D lines, but just for water and sky, it's a pain compared to Bryce and Terragen...
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 4:41am

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To do what you want, you're going to need a proper piece of software, Brcye and Terragen are all fine and dandy for landscapes.. but not for animating 3d objects and camera's over textured environments.

Cinema4D, Blender(free), Maya, 3DSMax will all be capable of this, but you'd have to spend time learning the application before being able to produce anything worthwhile.

Good luck. wink
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 7:23am

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Water, just by itself, is quite easy though, and you won't have to really invest much time into any of these programs to achieve it.
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 12:24pm

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Here's something I made in two minutes with Bryce...

www.geeksgonebad.com/water.mov

looks like flying over water to me wink

Edit: and that's the "Swirly black lagoon" water preset... In seconds I could change it to the "Foamy seawater" or any of the other 15 or so presets... you can't do that in the other 3D apps... You have to follow a darn tutorial just to get a good water texture! (except Terragen, which also animates the camera pretty easily)
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 12:33pm

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terragen will look the best out of all of them, in mass scheme of things bryce is crap it has a horrible renderer and is woefully underpowered
Posted: Sun, 17th Oct 2004, 8:18pm

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Terragen will look fine as long as the cam is moving fairly quickly but if it's slower motion then it won't look so good because there's no animation. Get the max demo maybe and find one of the many water tutes on the net.
Posted: Sun, 24th Oct 2004, 4:41am

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I think real footage would look the best. Cant someone just find some 'real' footage and quit arguing over 3d apps. They all have their faults.
Posted: Sun, 24th Oct 2004, 1:17pm

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awwww... but that's half the fun of it wink This is why we call these places "Discussion Boards" smile we're "discussing" the pros and cons of things smile LOL just some people "Discuss" more passionately than others wink

and yes I agree... real footage would be the best, but since it'd be hard to make this yourself, and stock footage generally costs money, not everybody is willing to give their stock footage away... so a lot of times it's the only option... (a 3D app...)
Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2004, 8:47pm

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Thanks Jamie, that footage will be great
Posted: Mon, 25th Oct 2004, 8:58pm

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I can put up a better quality... I wasn't really trying to get you something to use, just trying to show how easy it is... smile

If you have some parameters, I can make you something more custom to what you need... and better quality... That file's way compressed!
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 5:15pm

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where can you get bryce? I googled it and coulldnt find anything.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 7:59pm

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Bryce was aquired by Daz, and as far as I know they haven't released a version yet, and I just tried to look and their site was down for maintenance so...???
Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2004, 12:53am

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Hey, Just wanted you to know I got a video I made in terragen! It looks good! Just tell me and I will put it up on the web and give you a link! I can make new ones if you need something else!
Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2004, 10:02am

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How did you make movie in terragen?
Posted: Mon, 27th Dec 2004, 10:11am

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http://www2.cs.uh.edu/~somalley/campath.html

You can use Campath to make Terragen animations I believe.
Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2004, 7:46am

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http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel2/Products/Home&pid=1047022702299
Posted: Wed, 29th Dec 2004, 3:21am

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JamieC7 wrote:

Bryce was aquired by Daz, and as far as I know they haven't released a version yet, and I just tried to look and their site was down for maintenance so...???
Was Bryce free before? Because at there website, ( http://bryce.daz3d.com/ ) they're chargin...