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LOTR ROTK Extended dvd Trailer.

Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 2:52am

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link- http://progressive2.stream.aol.com/newline/gl/newline/lordoftherings/ReturnOfTheKing/videos/LOTR_ROTK_Extend_700_dl.mov

This looks really cool, if its as good as TTT one this will stau in my dvd drive for a long time!
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 3:33am

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VEEERRY nice! The mouth of sauron part was something that I was miffed about not being in the movie.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 5:16am

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE say that they put in the scouring of the shire. Thats all I want sad

and yes the mouth of sauron is going to be awesome
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 5:42am

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Too bad, they didn't even film the souring of the shire. Although great trailer! biggrin
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 5:58am

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Am I the only person who thinks that would really screw up the ending's pace?
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:34am

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The scouring of the Shire always seemed somewhat superfluous in the book. Tolkien got it right for most of it, but there are a couple of instances where he totally loses the pacing (*cough*Tom Bombadil*cough*).

Can't wait to see Aragorn giving Sauron the screaming willies via the palantir, though. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 11:29am

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noone meven gave me a +1 o welll
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 1:35pm

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Look good, I'm definatly buying the extended DVD.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 5:53pm

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Tarn wrote:

Tolkien got it right for most of it, but there are a couple of instances where he totally loses the pacing (*cough*Tom Bombadil*cough*).
WHAT?!? Are you telling me that Bombadil wasn't your favorite gay hobbit...rabbit...thing?
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 5:59pm

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I very nearly stopped reading the book during the Tom Bombadil 'escapade'. There's a reason he's never been in any of the TV/radio/film/cartoon adaptations - he's awful. Embarassingly bad dialogue and character, utterly irrelevant to everything else that happens in the book and really quite inexplicably odd - doesn't fit into the 'fantasy real' feeling of the rest.

I heard somewhere that Tom Bombadil was a fun little character that Tolkien used to use in stories for his kids. He put him into LotR for his kids. No idea if that's true....but it feels about right.

Bombadil is LotR's Jar Jar Binks, basically.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 6:43pm

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http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=DVDCOUK61

For anyone who wants to save a bit of cash on the extended edition...


As for Tom Bombadil, I can understand why he was left out, the only relevance seemed to be the fact that he had once been a powerful player in Middle Earth similar to Gandalf.

And weren't elements of the scouring included in Fellowship, where Frodo looks into the water?
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 7:00pm

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Indeed, in the film the scouring of the Shire is what will happen if they fail. It raises the stakes, makes Frodo realise what he's fighting for (until that point I don't think it had really occurred to him that it would affect his homeland).

I found the scouring in the book a little strange and mean-spirited. Having had this glorious victory, I didn't really see what narrative/emotional purpose there was in destroying half the Shire. Sure, you got to see the Hobbits banding together Ewok-stylee to defeat Saruman, which was kinda cool - but it could only ever feel superfluous after the huge events in Gondor and Mordor.

The Lord of the Rings is about Sauron. He is the Lord of the Ring. Once he was defeated, the story was, essentially, finished. All that remained was to wrap it all up nicely. So to introduce a whole extended action sequence on the end was a bit odd, to my mind.

Of course, it dealt with an important theme - showing that things would never really be the same again. But to do it in such a depressing way struck me as odd. I felt that all the way through the book the Hobbits were fighting specifically for the Shire - so to get back and find it ruined tinged everything with a rather nasty sense of failure.

The films retain the same theme, but channel it through Frodo - ie, he can never go back to what he was, and has to leave. But he still succeeded in saving the Shire...but the consequences on him were harsh. I felt that was a much more satisfactory conclusion.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 7:23pm

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HOLY CRAP!

The Return of the King is my favorite movie of all time. This is going to be so awsome!
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 8:01pm

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otteypm wrote:

http://www.dvd.co.uk/product.asp?id=DVDCOUK61

For anyone who wants to save a bit of cash on the extended edition...
Have you bought from this place before/know whether it's legit or not? Almost seems too good to be true smile
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 8:10pm

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Yep I got my copy of Two Towers from them for a similar price, it arrived a couple of days after the release date.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:09pm

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Thanks, just ordered my copy.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:12pm

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Waser wrote:

WHAT?!? Are you telling me that Bombadil wasn't your favorite gay hobbit...rabbit...thing?
I have never read the books (except for The Hobbit, which was why I didn't read the others) but I find the movies/plot and everything just so incredible.
Tom Bombadil is the one thing taken out of the movies that my friends can't explain to me- all i get is that he's some sort of ghosty old man or something.

Thanks, Waser, for helping me be even more confused on who the hell Tom Bombadil is. wink
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:44pm

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Despite my comments regarding Bombadil and the scouring of the shire, I still highly, highly recommend reading the books. They compliment the movies perfectly, and vice versa. Really enrich the whole experience.

I've yet to encounter an author who can write heroic stuff as well as Tolkien. Some of his prose and the big speeches make you want to punch the air and shout "hoo yeah!" Such as when Sam faces off against Shelob, or the Ride of Rohirrim.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:54pm

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yeah, listen to tarn. (I can't for the life of me understand why he hasn't read them)
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 9:59pm

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I tried reading The Hobbit when I was about 7, I think, and didn't like it at all. Put me off fantasy for the next 12 years-or-so. In fact, I still dislike fantasy as a genre, but LotR is the exception. Quite fascinating stuff.
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After I read The Hobbit a second time and our class analyzed the book I really liked it. But even I am not quite sure why I haven't read the others. It doesn't really matter though. The movies are still quite above the rest.
Posted: Mon, 18th Oct 2004, 11:03pm

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I read Fellowship, but stopped in the middle of Two Towers because it was getting exeedingly boring.
Posted: Tue, 19th Oct 2004, 8:03am

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Tarn wrote:

The films retain the same theme, but channel it through Frodo - ie, he can never go back to what he was, and has to leave. But he still succeeded in saving the Shire...but the consequences on him were harsh. I felt that was a much more satisfactory conclusion.
I didnt see any of that in Frodo in the movie. In the book it says that he never smiles again and is always sad because the ring is gone. But in the movie he winks at people and smiles and gallops gayly and all sorts of stuff. That ain't Frodo in the book! Cheap! I really want to see the scouring of the shire just because its the true ending to the book, everything is wrapped up there. If you read to where the ring is destroyed and end the story, it doesn't have the same effect.
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 8:58pm

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this series really annoys me.

i thought we were done with all of it. i guess this extended one is the last bit i have to put up with being talked about.
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 9:11pm

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Cypher wrote:

this series really annoys me.

i thought we were done with all of it. i guess this extended one is the last bit i have to put up with being talked about.
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too each his own I guess...
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 9:52pm

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yes
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 7:03am

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I agree with Cypher. LOTR is WAAAAAY too overrated.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 3:43pm

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ben3308 wrote:

I agree with Cypher. LOTR is WAAAAAY too overrated.
yea it is
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 3:54pm

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xbreaka wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

I agree with Cypher. LOTR is WAAAAAY too overrated.
yea it is
yes
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Good post


actually, as highly regarded as the LOTR series is, I dont think they are overrated at all. It was the star wars of my generation (even more so than star wars).
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 4:06pm

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I don't think its overrated at all. Over rated would mean that its not really good, but there is a lot of hype. With LOTR, there maybe a lot of hype, but these are my favorite movies of all time.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 5:52pm

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movies like lotr and star wars seem to overrate themselves when hords of geeks dress up as chracters and people pray to characters.

Cleary the best piece of filmmaking hands down is the Godfather dont try to debate this as you will only loose a argument with me over it.

Do you see people forming huge godfather fanclubs and merchandising everything they can out of it.

LOTR may be a good piece of filmmaking but why wouldnt they just leave it at that instead of trying to put it as the best thing since sliced bread when cleary there are many films which are substancially better
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 5:57pm

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You seem to be confusing opinion with fact.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:00pm

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xbreaka wrote:

Do you see people forming huge godfather fanclubs and merchandising everything they can out of it?
No, but there are also a lot of movies not up to the standard that don't do that either. Not saying The Godfather is a bad film.
Lord of the Rings and Starwars are somewhat family films. Kids like toys, and are drawn in by cool posters and whatnot.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:04pm

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Tarn wrote:

You seem to be confusing opinion with fact.
i guess i was getting quite confused righting that
but i guess what i was saying is that a good film is one that isnt all full of itself.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:08pm

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I don't think the film itself is full of itself (if at all possible), but instead that it is so epic that it generates a huge following, and to accommodate that following, they advertise more, and spend more money on merchandise.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:09pm

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How do you mean by a film that is 'full of itself'? I'm not sure what that is exactly.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:18pm

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Films don't have ego's...

Lord oof the Rings has been a very popular film that took it's source material seriously, it has been a huge artistic and technical acheivement, if you don't like it, thats fine, but it doesn't mean the film is any better or worse than something like Godfather...
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Everyone has their own opinion, so leave it at that. I personally thought Godfather was pretty lame, aswell as Scarface, and all my friends swear by these titles. I'm really into epics and fantasy, so LotR wins for me. Again, this is opinion. Don't wet yourself over it.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 6:30pm

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not to mention that LOTR already had a big following because of the books, it was just amplified because of the movies.
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Yes the is a fan base for the godfather,I've know alot of people who get to gether and watch all of the godfathers movie.And they dress up like the people from the movies..halloween,parties that they have..

But its more than just godfather..is all Real gangster type movies"not talking about little punks,with ther pants falling down around there ankles"
Scareface,casnio,could go on for ever..

And yes,even godfather movies..You can buy t-shirts,plates,lunchboxes,cups,this something else i could go on...

And I think the starwars movies "is like 1000 times better than godfather movies".I just didnt like godfather. Its my taste in movies.

Just like your tast of movies is like godfather type movies...

every movie that gets played in a theater..has some type of fan base,most likly they will sell logo imprinted crap for it...even if the movies sucked in the ratings..Cause theres always a group of people who loved it..

LIke to bring up Kung Pow movie released a few years back...It was done by a millionaire who had way to much money to burned..bought clips from old kung fu movies..and put it in his movie...I worked for a theater then..we had it one week,and drped it..LOL But when it was released on Dvd..all I heard from kids at the theater"they couldn't wait to rent it" just to show u..even the worse of the worse movies has a fan base wink

So,why are u flamming LoTr,and starwars again??? I forgot wink
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jedicowboys wrote:



LIke to bring up Kung Pow movie released a few years back...It was done by a millionaire who had way to much money to burned..bought clips from old kung fu movies..and put it in his movie...I worked for a theater then..we had it one week,and drped it..LOL But when it was released on Dvd..all I heard from kids at the theater"they couldn't wait to rent it" just to show u..even the worse of the worse movies has a fan base wink

HEY! Thats a great movie!
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Waser put evman on his list of people who like Kung Pow

wow, 5 people. How the list grows! Not making fun, as I'm on the top of the list razz
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G'head and add me to that list too, Waser. That movie is particularly genius.
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good, im not alone.
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*Mister Pencil raises hand.*

Add me to the list - Kung Pow is incredible. lol.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 9:05pm

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go tonguey!
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.....I have truly found my people....!!!
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Kung Pow is genius.

It's not just the humor -- which only some people like -- but the technical mastery.

Godfather, on the other hand, leaves me cold. It's worth seeing just to catch the references in other movies and TV shows (ie, Simpsons), but it's about as enjoyable as watching paint dry.