Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2004, 10:32am
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|We came up with this film for the 2004 5 Minute Video Contest for Videomaker Magazine. I wanted out entry to be very film noir and dark. So the idea was to have a 1930's detective superhero fight in a dark alley...movie. We filmed Estranger with my Gl2 over maybe 2 or 3 nights with the permission of the police. We lit this mother with like 3 flashlights I found in my garage. Keep in mind I did all of the effects in Vegas Movie Studio, a $99 editing program. So enjoy.|Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2004, 1:59pm
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I thought you captured the mood and setting well, especially with the background track.
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 3:39pm
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I enjoyed that. ...nice editing, really nice fight cheography, good sound effects and mood lighting. It was a bit difficult to see at times.
Has a new super-hero been created here? Briefcase Man?
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 8:49pm
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Im downloading it right now (its gonna take a little over an hour though)
Posted: Sat, 30th Oct 2004, 9:28pm
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just watched it
I think we have our new cinema leader, all things consider, I have no earthly clue what it was about...cursed breifcase, but it was cool anyway, Camera angles all conincided almost perfectly! (LOVED the knuckle shot with the breifcase!)
Im gonna go watch it again!
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 4:02am
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everything was really nice....eccept the story. the story is teh foundation of a movie, if u dont have that, everything else is weak
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 5:26am
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Come on guys I think this pretty much maxes out the story compacity for a 5 minute short.
Posted: Sun, 31st Oct 2004, 8:41pm
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NIIIIIICEEEE!!!! I really liked this film. But I want to see you blow this out of proportion! I want to see a TRILOGY. I want to see elaborate fight sequences. GIANT CONSPIRACY. But most of all I WANNA SEE WHATS IN THE BRIEFCASE. YOu're getting a FIVE FRom me and I'm adding this to my favorites.
Posted: Mon, 1st Nov 2004, 7:50am
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Well done kids.
I like your movie very much and above all the light is very good and the music is matched with the pace. Apart from the story line which seems a bit short the sound effects are in place. Keep giving us such good movies.
Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2004, 2:28am
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Let me first say:
By far one of the most well-shot movies I have seen in my life. The editing was good, the storyline somewhat vague, and the camerawork surpassing most Hollywood movies I have seen. The lighting was incredible! How did you get that much light into those shots at night? My camera only picks up vague shapes in that brightness, let alone an awesomely detailed, eerie alleyway. With some small grading, brushed up editing, and enhanced sound, this could very well be the best movie I've ever seen. A well deserved 5/5, and I'll be sure to be voting for this under my gold account.
Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2004, 8:22pm
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So Kyeju since its been on here for a while now can you tell just what this film is about?
Posted: Thu, 4th Nov 2004, 11:05pm
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The story would've been so much more clear if we were able to film a girl for his wife instead of using his brother.
Well basically the Mysterious Man just left his family because he is so distant from them and he can't stand the pressure. So he is standing in the alley because he has no where else to go. The kitchen boy witnesses a mugging and the two muggers chase him down to make sure he doesnt say anything. So either the mysterious man can let them pass him by and hurt this kid or he can step out and face them.
Now what's in the breifcase? His past. That's why he leaves it there at the end. He let's go of his past.
Posted: Fri, 5th Nov 2004, 5:15pm
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Nice job all around on this. The flashlight lighting worked surprisingly well and only gave away that it was actually flashlight lighting only a few times. Yes, the story would have had more impact had it been based on the classic man/woman/hurt/lost/love/etc.. formula - but so what! Your story still worked. I really liked how you edited the fight scenes together. They looked like fight scenes instead of talent acting like they were doing fight scenes. And speaking of acting - it was for sure above average overall. My only ding was the gruff voice of the muggers - a little cheese but not much. Good choice of angles, great editing, good acting, and a good score made this enjoyable to watch. Great job Kyeju.
Posted: Sat, 6th Nov 2004, 4:43am
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Ferall you know you are just trying to play devils advocate. I had no clue a flashlight was used. Don't try to aggitate the director by acting like it was noticable.
Posted: Sat, 6th Nov 2004, 1:47pm
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Pugh - first learn how to spell. Second, was I even posting for you? No. Third - maybe you need to pay more attention because I could tell it was a flashlight source used. What is with the stupid peace out stuff - it's lame. Stop trolling and do something productive.
Posted: Sun, 7th Nov 2004, 6:31am
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No one else said anything about the flashlight. If you were going to comment on it. THen you should have said, "I think you could have hidden the flash light a little better so the lighting looks more natural."
NOt put it the way you did. Like, "It's obvious it was a flashlight and everyone knows it."
As far as my PEACE Out signature. Get a life and bash on something worth bashing. I'm not in the mood to make any enemies on this site. So don't try to get on my nerves alright buddy. YOu know what you were doing, Trying to let everyone notice the fact that they used a flash light.
MAybe you should try to enjoy the cinematic bliss that this film is. Instead of Purposly trying to nit pick at things. Estranger was great period.
PEACE OUT PEACE OUT PEACE OUT PEACE OUT PEACE OUT
Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2004, 12:43am
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Good choice of angles, great editing, good acting, and a good score made this enjoyable to watch.
Matt, obviously ferral agreed as well. He was just pointing out some flaws, wasnt tryin to start a fight. Chill with all that man.
Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2004, 11:44am
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Alright buddy. That's what I'm all about loving and sharing movies. Lets just download and enjoy.
Posted: Mon, 8th Nov 2004, 5:31pm
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Thats what im talkin'about
Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2004, 1:56am
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Good job, Kyle. I see the beginnings of a good filmmaker. Thank you for putting some style/class back in the FXHome cinema. Thank you for that. The only thing that really kinda stuck out was that it is always a good idea to keep the camera steady on an exposition shot, (ie. tracking in on the man in the coat and fedora in the alley). Other than that, the lighting was beautiful and the gl-2 helped alot too I'm sure as far as good cinematography is concerned. Good film, one of my personal favorites.
PS my name is also Kyle, Just thought I'd let you know.
Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2004, 2:17am
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Those are the comments I love hearing. I tried stabilizing the shot in ae but with those huge lens flares from the street lights it would be very obviously stabilized. The pavement in that ally is just so nasty it was really hard to get a decent looking shot. I'm think of converting my monopod into a steady cam sometime, but for our next short I'll be using a tv cart that you would find in a highschool library for our dollie shots. What sucks about this contest is that I submitted my entry September 20th and I wont find out if I won until early MARCH!! What the hell is taking them so long!!!
Posted: Mon, 15th Nov 2004, 3:21am
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I'd say that winning something like that where nationwide filmmakers enter just wouldn't happen, but with a movie of this quality you never know.
Posted: Tue, 16th Nov 2004, 2:15am
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I've watched all the entries and not to be arrogant or anything but...well I just think we have a really good chance of winning First or Second.
Posted: Thu, 18th Nov 2004, 2:10pm
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First off, let me say that this film blew me away. How you managed to make GL2 DV footage look like that, is, to say that least, incredible. The lighting was great and the camera angles were very professionally done. You game me something to strive for in my films. Thank you.
Second, I saw in your profile that you were from Ohio. I was wondering where this was filmed, becuase i couldn't make out what county was on the building at the end of the film. I myself am from Cleveland, andwas just wondering if this was being filmed anywhere near my home.
You guys have accomplished with this title, what many people on FXHome dream about. Great Job and I cannot wait until your next release.
Posted: Fri, 19th Nov 2004, 3:17am
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Thanks for the nice comments! I live on the east side of cleveland in a suberb called Painesville. I don't know if you've heard of it. It's close to Mentor, and Chardon.
Posted: Thu, 2nd Dec 2004, 2:53am
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I live in University Heights....and goto High School in Chardon....not too far away. Impressive video once again....what city was it shot....it appeared to be Chardon Square, but couldn't really tell.
Posted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004, 9:59pm
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That was a really cool angle when you had the shadow of the knife opening up.
Posted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004, 2:17pm
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Wow I cant believe that you people actually think that this could pass for a real film? That is the biggest bunch of bull that I have ever heard.
Bad Screen Direction
But not too bad, Be Honest guys, Not nice
Check Out THE TIN MAN 2004 (Tribeca Film Festival short film entry)
Posted: Mon, 13th Dec 2004, 2:46pm
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Bad Stabilization?????? Bad Stabilization. Well it must be a bad film if the stabilization's bad. How could any film possibly in any world, concievably be good if the stabilization was not up to scratch. How could a film even dream to achieve the status of being good, if there was that most dreadful of things, the worst thing to have in a film, the scourge of cinema, the only single thing that could ruin a film apart from Ben Affleck... Bad Stabilization!!!!! Run for the Hills!!!! This film has poor stabilization, thus it could never be good for every now and again it wasn't very stable.
Seriously dude. What're you talking about???