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Terragen, anyone?

Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 4:28pm

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ben3308

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I've been using Terragen for about 5 days now without any tutorials or anything and I must say, IT'S AWESOME! Try it out it you haven't. Also, I'm wondering how you add accesories and add-ons for terrain. Does anybody know? Anyone ever used it before? I sure would love some pointers. Also, I used Terranim to script a camera path for an anmimation I made. It took a hell of a long time to render, and I set the quality of the terrain pretty low, but it came out nicely. Pics and video and animation soon. Please, if you've used this before, post some renders!

here's Terragen's website
and Terranim's website

If you haven't tried these programs before, do so!
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 5:48pm

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Thx for the tip, although many people already know about it. razz

Thx anyway.
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 5:55pm

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Terragen is pretty nifty, it's use however is rather horribly limited.

I suspect that you've used a program which creates nice visuals extremely easily and just want to show it off.. razz
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 6:36pm

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ben3308 wrote:

Please, if you've used this before, post some renders!
They actually used Terragen in "The Day After Tomorrow" for the biggest shots.
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 11:22pm

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Ben, Terragen is old news, it's very well known. And it's in your sig, no need for a new topic. It is also in the Ultimate Faq.
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 11:32pm

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Redhawksrymmer wrote:

ben3308 wrote:

Please, if you've used this before, post some renders!
They actually used Terragen in "The Day After Tomorrow" for the biggest shots.
I believe you have incorrect info, they thought about it but at the end decided against using terragen
Posted: Tue, 9th Nov 2004, 11:36pm

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No they used Terragen smile
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 12:15am

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Yeah, I knew that they used Terragen for The Day After Tomorrow.

Hybrid-Halo wrote:

I suspect that you've used a program which creates nice visuals extremely easily and just want to show it off.. razz
That's a bit presumptuous, but partially correct.razz I just haven't seen any Terragen renders from anyone else before, so I thought that most people who knew about it hadn't tried it. razz Today I quickly made a terrain in 5 minutes and then did a camera path for it in Terranim in about 2 minutes, however, once I tried to render the Terranim script in Terragen, it took 10 hours to render. Also, I hadn't set the quality the highest, so it's a bit sketchy. I compiled the images in Virtual Dub and did some titles and slight grading in Vegas and it came out okay. Sorry, I wasn't trying to flaunt my renders, just trying to see some other people's stuff and tell those who hadn't heard of it yet. Sorry if my initial post came off skewed.
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 6:01am

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I've been playing around with Terragen for a while, and I really like it. For distant views, it's great. If you're going for a close up shot of terrain, it's pretty barren looking, unfortunately. Heh, my desktop on my work PC is actually a Terragen render.

I've also used Campath to render camera animations for fly throughs of terragen renderings, and it works really well.

Terragen 2 is talked about some at the Terragen website. I keep hoping they'll release it soon. It's supposed to be quite an improvement, and will apparently give you the ability to render individual boulders, boulder fields, and other objects. There will still be a free version, though.
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 1:33pm

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Yeah I've only been able to do a medium quality barren mountain, with no grass or anything, because of the outrageous render times. When you're on a laptop, you can't just keep it running throughout the day while you're gone, something's just bound to go wrong. razz Here's the video I just made in Terragen My still renders look MUCH better than my video renders, partially because the video isn't the highest quality and I spent only a small amount of time on it. Check it out.
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 6:50pm

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The Programm is really cool...

Perfect for Chromonator and the "hang a greenscreen in front of the window" trick ^^

Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 9:29pm

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Hi Guys.

Don’t know if any of you saw the last edition of PCF, but they had a full version copy of Vue 3 LE on the cover DVD.

For those who don’t know that Vue is, check out…. http://www.e-onsoftware.com/

Needless to say I bought the mag and I’m smiling from ear to ear. I registered for free and got my activation serial number. Now I’m enjoying Vue 3 for free. The only catch is you can’t render an image larger 1024x768. Better than nothing I say.

It’s extremely powerful and almighty impressive. It even came with mover so I’m rendering flybys with ease here.

Check it out.... it's the best 8 bucks I ever spent on a mag.

Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 9:49pm

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What does PCF stand for? I'm sure I know, just a memory lapse. Sorry, I gave a bad link
Here's the updated one with my animated render

Comments and help appreciated!
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 9:51pm

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Ben - That's pretty nifty, I've nothing against you showing it off razz
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 11:09pm

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Thanks. The only comments I've got from other people were that the render was pretty low quality and there was no shoreline, just a small foam around the edge of the water. They don't understand that the mountains are underwater and that there wouldn't be a shoreline for a vertical mountain sticking up from the water. smile This was just a test for The Friendship, I'm going to redo it and greenscreen in (once I get Chromanator, if ever razz) the actors and have the camera creep up to them hiking. I'm also going to buy the digital topographic map (DEM's, I think) for Midloathian, TX and Arizona (both possible locations for the Friendship) and load them into Terragen, so that the height values of the mountain correspond to real life mountains. On another note, are there any extras for Terragen? Like grass plugins(?) or water add-ons(?) or something?
Posted: Wed, 10th Nov 2004, 11:15pm

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Does anyone know what PCF stands for? Thanks
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 12:31am

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PCF stands for PC Format.
It’s one of the biggest PC Mags in the UK and Ireland.

The October issue (number 166) is the one that has the full version of Vue d’Esprit 3.1 LE with Mover on it. The registration for the software is free.

If your local newsagent sells this mag, get it. Vue3 is absolutely fantastic.

Regards.
Sharp.

PS: Ben3308, very nice work mate.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 12:59am

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If your local newsagent sells this mag, get it. Vue3 is absolutely fantastic.
And if not? sad
Maybe someone could buy me this mag and send it to me ^^°
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 1:39am

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Katsu, how do you get that goldern look, it must be more than just sky color alteration, right? And the overshadowed clouds, how do you do that?
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 1:55am

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For that "volume light" effect you just need to raise the "simple haze" density in the atmosphere menu, get a nice pack of clouds (i was very lucky with this one), check the "Clouds cast Shadows" box in the Lighting Condition Menu, lower the "Shadow Lightness" and raise in the Render settings menu "atmosphere" and "cloud shading" to high.

Aaaand for that golden look, just play around a little with the colours of the sun; the clouds and be sure you raise the "Light Decay/Red" a little bit to give it a darker look.

I hope that helps a little biggrin
If not, there are a lot of tutorials on www.terradreams.de (most of them in german I guess, but all of them got pictures ^^).


Edit: The site can be translated via google. Just click on the flag ^^
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 2:22am

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Ben - This is a nice list of the plugins for Terragen that you might be interested in smile

Thanks for bringing this to my attention - it wasn't untill I saw the pic in your sig and your topic that I acctually thought about trying Terragen - and it's FANTASTIC. Possibly (as Hybrid has said) not the most practical of tools, but I'll be damned if it isn't amazing fun smile

Thanks again - cheers,
Arktic.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 2:37am

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Yeah, I've known about Terragen for about a year, and I just decided to try it out before going on a trip, so I downloaded and and WOW! Creating models isn't that hard, it's making them convincing that gets difficult.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 2:41am

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Terragen really handles all that for you though, It's not really a 3d application in any modelling sense of the word. hard to explain what I mean without sounding like I am ruthlessly bashing you or your terragen use.

Terragen creates things based on your input, rather than you controlling and modelling it physically, so ultimately... you'll never be able to get the exact look you want.

Looks good though, and sometimes that's all you need.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 2:48am

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What I like about it is that you only sacrifice a small amount of control over your creation for a vast amount of ease. Here;s some pics I made in a couple of minutes based on Katsu's descriptions:



Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 2:54am

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I made this!

Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 3:15am

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Very nice, pooky. What altitude limit did you set the grass at?

EDIT:
Okay this pic is big, so I hope it fits! Here's a wallpaper I made. This is my first ever Terragen render of a canyon. 56k users beware!!!
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 4:19am

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Pooky - that looks amazing, well done.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 9:27am

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Katsu wrote:

If your local newsagent sells this mag, get it. Vue3 is absolutely fantastic.
And if not? sad
Maybe someone could buy me this mag and send it to me
Guys I was serious about this ^^°
Of course I´ll pay for it.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 10:28am

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Hi Katsu.
Well it would be a sin if you missed this fantastic opportunity so send your postal address to me. Since it was offered freely on the cover of a Mag, I’ll burn a copy of Vue3 to disk for you. I won’t charge you either, that wouldn’t be fair.

The only catch will be registration I guess. When I registered my copy they wanted to know my full address and phone number. I know the copy I have is not tied into my name so you can register it again in your own name, I just hope that the registration is not fixed to European postal addresses only…assuming your in the states ?.

Regards.
Sharp.
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 11:10am

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I "accidently" registered myself (I hoped that I would get a download link or something -.-) and already got my registration code ^^
The registration worked pretty well with my original adress, so I didn´t fake something... I guess it´s alright smile
I´ll send you a PN biggrin
very very very big THX!
Posted: Thu, 11th Nov 2004, 11:15am

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Well that was lucky.
Shouldn’t be long before your up and running then.

Regards.
Sharp.