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Exporting AlamDV Projects for Final Cut Pro HD

Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 7:53pm

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RudyPicardo

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FXHomers:

Can anyone recommend specific settings for exporting AlamDV files for use on Final Cut Pro HD?

Here's my situation:
1) I do basic editing on Final Cut at the office and export the edited footage to my Mini-DV camera.

2) I download the edited footage to my PC at home to do AlamDV special effects work.

3) I want to be able to export QT files from AlamDV which I can burn on a CD-R to take back into Final Cut Pro at the office. I don't want to loose any quality from the footage that is exported as obviously I'll need to integrate the AlamDV sfx footage with the existing edited footage at the office.

I've tried doing this a few times using the Quicktime and DVCPro50 settings, however the quality is noticably diffrent and I get an occaisional bad deinterlacing look. My last submission "The Art of Voice Inflection" shows a few examples of this: http://fxhome.com/cinema/info_cache/movieinfo1523.html

Fellow users may suggest that I just export AlamDV movies from PC to my Mini-DV camera. Unfortunately at this time my firewire card has been damaged and can ONLY import footage from the camera.

Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. Direct responses this post are fine, however, I'm sure someone has already asked this type of question, so a referiring link will do fine.

My thanks as always

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Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 10:14pm

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If you have a DVD burner burn the data to the DVD, not the way you would make a cinematic DVD, but like you would burn a data CD. Then, pop that in your work computer and edit away! This is only if you have a DVD burner. If not, there is software that lets you export data to mini dv. Check here: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/ . I dont have time to find the page, but i remember seeing it there. I think it was something that 15 gigs per hour of mini dv.

This might be confusing, so if you need it cleared up just say so. smile
Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 10:40pm

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Until you get to your final export it's best to edit and add effects using uncompressed video in order to retain the same quality. However, if you want to keep the quality and keep file sizes low, export the effects onto a plain background (Black is best) using your codec of choice and then comp them back onto your footage at the office.

This way the effects may be slightly lower quality (not nioticably) and the footage stays the same quality.
Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 11:18pm

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Rawree wrote:

Until you get to your final export it's best to edit and add effects using uncompressed video in order to retain the same quality. However, if you want to keep the quality and keep file sizes low, export the effects onto a plain background (Black is best) using your codec of choice and then comp them back onto your footage at the office.

This way the effects may be slightly lower quality (not nioticably) and the footage stays the same quality.
This sounds like a good plan. I noticed that in the Export menu on AlamDV, I can export a black background which I assume can apply a luma key in FCP. Assuming I use Quicktime, is there a specific codec compression setting that you could suggest (i.e. Sorensen 3, etc.)? I assume its the compression labeled "none". I just want to be sure.

Thanks for the quick response
Posted: Wed, 15th Dec 2004, 11:56pm

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I've got a feeling there's a post/some posts floating about that deal with compression (I don't know a lot about it myself) but if you can't find anything here you should just mess about with the codecs you have to get the best file size without loosing too much quality on the fx (I'm pretty sure that you can compress these more than the original footage as they won't be as noticeable)
Posted: Thu, 16th Dec 2004, 12:15am

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Yeah, there is one in The Ultimate FAQ in the Filmmakers forum.
Posted: Thu, 16th Dec 2004, 1:42pm

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Raurie and Tim:

Thanks for your help with the responses. It is truly appreciated.

To FXHome Mods: Please feel free to delete this entire forum entry. As I've stated in other post, there's no need for this type of post taking up valuable web-space. Thanks again
Posted: Fri, 17th Dec 2004, 1:58am

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If i was a gold user, i'd give you a +1 right now, because your the first to follow my sig instructions. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 28th Dec 2004, 7:37am

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I wouldn't use a luma key in Final Cut Pro
Simply put the effect in the timeline as you would if you were going to add a luma key, then right click ( or control click) the footage with the effects only (over black) and select composite mode>add. You could try some of the other composite modes, but I've always had luck with "add"

Hope that helps