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Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 2:31pm

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A woman finds herself stranded on the roadside in the midst of a serial killing spree. She is forced to hithhike and soon begins to wonder if it is indeed the "Switchback Slasher" that has given her a lift. This is my first film. A 6 minute short, I tried emphasizing more on story and less on effects. I wanted to test myself with putting a story in a very short amount of time. I hope you enjoy. Overall I was pleased with the end result.
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Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 2:38pm

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Excellent! A very accomplished film in just about every department - good acting and clever casting, excellent use of locations, some nice shots and angles (and a good variety, too), cranks up the tension really nicely and the pay-off is perfectly timed.

Skilfully put together and very entertaining. When's your next one coming out? smile
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 2:42pm

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Well...hmm...naahhh...I think I'll just give it a 5 and put it at number 1 in my top ten list! biggrin

Excellent!
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 3:10pm

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Well, the wmv crashes about halfway through - funnily enough right after the lady says: "It's my kind of luck, I'd say"...

I like what I have seen so far - I just think the titles are a bit hard to read in the beginning - but it's well shot, has great sound (almost an oddity in these parts - thanks for that!), nice, varied, camera angles, good casting from what I can see so far. One minor beef, the girl looks worried too fast I found when she gets in the car... But hey! It's a matter of personal taste.

I would definitely like to see more of this. Could you post a Quicktime?

Congratulations are in order because for a first film, this is very solid from what I could see.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 4:03pm

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5/5! This is probably one of the best movies i seen on this website so far. Keep up the great work. biggrin
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 4:08pm

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This gets a full 5 from me, good film work and editing alongside top acting are always a great combination. Top stuff, I look forwards to your future releases.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 5:12pm

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That was a great film.....I liked it alot. Good choice of music, good acting, nice editing job......I look forword to you future films.

I give it a 4 and half/ 5....the only reason is I gave it that was because I have never given a 5 to anyone....and I am still waiting for that amazing film to come..when I will give it a 5.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 6:15pm

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that was really good, though I little predictable. I think the films strongest point is the use of music, the way it would be calm, then punch in with that deep synth buzzing sound. Very cool. Everything was top notch, and I can tell you are going to be a gem here at fxhome
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 6:44pm

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That was probably the best horror movie on here. It was very good at being scary and suspenseful, as it had me and my brother pretty scared in broad daylight. lol. great job.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 6:55pm

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Technically superb (not said superb in years) the acting was top-notch and convincing a decent variety of actors too. Good props, costumes, locations all added production value and made it look more professional. Camera and editing very good. Loved the shot of the boot, with the falling gun and the woman runs off.

However I found it was a little predictable, though at first I thought it was going to be... "she's the serial killer and savages the big wrestler dude" but afterwards I figured "oh she's killed the wrong dude" and there was no twisting or nothing, it just happened. I feel it never built up enough tension and fear and there's seemingly a whole chunk missing. She's stuck in the middle of nowhere then runs off, then she's in civillisation.

You should have extended your running time and built on everything I think. More character development, more fear, more everything.

It just kind of ends, leaving me wondering "what was the point"

However way better than almost everything that I've seen round these parts. 4/5. Cool.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 7:05pm

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Excellent Movie

5/5 for editing and sound

Keep up the great work



P.S.

I could not read the title or the credits
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 7:12pm

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Will this one beat Art Of The Saber?
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 9:34pm

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Possibly, redhawksrymmer.

Truly amazing. 5/5 and #1.

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Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 10:34pm

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timmyd wrote:

Possibly, redhawksrymmer.
Yes, possibly timmyd

Actually I doubt it. Many people see a movie getting solid fives and want to stand out and give it a low score. No matter though, this will surely be one of the greats of the year. Amazing that it came out in January
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 10:57pm

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GOOD MOVIE

Possibly the best thing I've seen on this site.

5/5
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 11:03pm

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although i dont think i saw a creature get run over.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 11:14pm

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I liked it, and I think its professional and all, but something was missing... Im not sure, I just wasn't drawn in and captivated that much. I'm gonna say 4, and Im sorry to say that I don't know exactly why.
Posted: Mon, 3rd Jan 2005, 11:27pm

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JohnCarter wrote:

Well, the wmv crashes about halfway through - funnily enough right after the lady says: "It's my kind of luck, I'd say"...
I'm having exactly the same problem as JC.
Cut's out half way through, just when I'm getting into it sad

Get a full working version up! smile as a quicktime. biggrin
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 12:46am

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dang! that was awsome! that is really on of my favorite movies here now.
well done. agian how did you do those awsome muzller flashes? blank fireing?
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 12:47am

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Hey guys-Thanks for all the comments! I really appreciate it. I will get a quicktime version up as soon as possible. As for a fox getting run over or not- I tried cutting the shots quick enough so you really couldn't tell. Also, the music I chose was all public domain, so this way I could own all the creative rights. It's really hard to find someone to compose a film I've discovered.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 12:49am

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the gun was actually an 8mm blank gun. I then used an Alam Muzzle flash to put over the top, and tweeked about 4 frames to make it appear brighter in certain areas using layering in After Effects.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 12:54am

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Hey guys-sorry the title and credits are hard to read, its the compression I'm using. The full scale version is very easy to read. I could put up a 720X480 version if anyone is interested.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 12:58am

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Well done. I would give it a 5 but at times I felt the music did not fit within the scenes. Especially when the young woman and Tom are in the car talking. That and at some times the acting was a little choppy, but for the most part was nicely done 4/5
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 1:57am

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Well I've now shown this to my entire family, and we still can't decide if Tom was the Slasher or not. Obviously the title of the movie would imply he's not, but why would he start talking about hitchhikers dying in his car? eek
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 2:09am

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Deepcoiler wrote:

Well I've now shown this to my entire family, and we still can't decide if Tom was the Slasher or not. Obviously the title of the movie would imply he's not, but why would he start talking about hitchhikers dying in his car? eek
But I thought the whole point was that Tom certainly wasn't the killer.

I thought that she was going to end up as the killer as well...maybe she was eek

Good job, it really seemed to have that professional quality that so many films here lack. Acting was superb as were the angles and editing and sound/music.
A few things though: The fact that she had a gun with her seemed a tad unbelievable to me (I dunno how things work in the US though biggrin ) and perhaps it would have been better if she had founf it in Tom's car - He's a cop so it makes sense at the end and it wouldn't seem out of place while the audience still thinks he's the killer. Also I feel that you could have drawn it out a bit longer and made it seem more like she was in danger (When she shot him I really didn't feel as though she was in any danger from his actions at that point. Maybe he could have done something to startle her or if something happened with her phone to distract her and she looks up and he's stanging there with the axe held up.

But a solid movie none the less.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 2:51am

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Excellent. ...must be nice having access to people who can actually act. Quick, get them in some more movies before they move away or something. I voted high on this one because of your nice pacing, satisfying ending, the acting, and the dialog audio, which in most DV movies is lacking. Nice job.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 3:16am

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Rawree-great comments! I am very impressed with your ideas! Man, had I collaberated with you on this, it could have been so much better! Thanks so much for a different perspective on things!
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 4:13am

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.... hmm ....mmm ..... what's there to say? You guys did an excellent job, the shots were amazing giving a definite professional feel... if im correct you also used some colour correction along with those sexy titles. This is a definite top film on this site and many of us should be looking at it as an inspiration..

Great film guys, I want to see more of your work! 5/5
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 4:39am

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Thanks for the compliments wdy-We are actually in the peproduction phase of a "zombie" film- and also in production of another short psychological thriller-will keep everyone posted! Thanks again!
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 7:09am

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Wow...I'm speechless! That was incredibly good. GREAT WORK!!! You should send it to a film festival.
Posted: Tue, 4th Jan 2005, 2:40pm

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"but why would he start talking about hitchhikers dying in his car?" said Deepcoiler. And I answer...

You know how it is, you want to avoid awkward silences. You casually toss in a reference about how someone just like you died nastilly in that very seat. Keeps conversation going, beats "and what do you do?" smile

Or maybe it was a victim of crazy dude who he found and was taking to hospital but died on the way. Seems unlikely though by the way he was talking. Maybe he said it, so the audience could suspect a bit more and build tension, 'cos he likes the aire of mystery. smile
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 12:22am

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Hey, that was great, what kind of camera did you use?
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 12:57am

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Hey Jstow-thanks so much for the feedback. We shot it with a friend's XL1-that is a beautiful camera! These compressed images don't do the picture justice. I'm really new here, so any help with good compression settings would be a huge help!
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 1:02am

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Hey 2 Gunned saint! thanks for your feedback. This was all part of the fun of the film-letting the audience decide what they got out of it. Could Tom, who was the local sheriff be the "Slasher" as well? We also played around with having Martha, his wife, be the actual slasher, and her husband just being the sheriff the whole time. Did Tom actually hit something or not? Was he just trying to make casual conversation to break the awkward silence? Many possibilities here, and tht's what made this such a fun brainstorming project! Thanks again for everyone writing in!
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 1:17am

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Ah, that explains it, yes, the quality is great. I left the cinema, so to speak, thinking that Tom was the killer using his sheriff status as a coverup.

PS ) Why didnt she take his car after killing him?

*OH Yeah, this now the new leader of the charts. Congratulations.
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 1:25am

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i think the girl needs to act a little more naturally for the parts in which she's scared
but that probably has to do with the lack of time to develop her character
overall, very solid; moreover it has a plot which is rare in the many videos on this site
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 1:34am

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Thank you jstow! Glad you commented on why she didn't take the car. Originally I wrote it in that when she shot Tom, she also hit the radiator on the vehicle. Pressed for time on the day of shooting, we decided to go the route of running out of fear-rather than picking through the pockets of a suspected killer. Thanks again!
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 1:37am

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thank you jetaimaster. On the girl-there was quite a few things that I wish I would have altered with her character. One major issue-I wish I would have had her character coughing or sick the whole movie-then when Tom makes the off-color comment of "not dying" on me-it would have had more motivation for his line...oh well....learning tools right?
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 2:24am

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The quality was great in my opinion, but this is a great reference. http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15838&highlight=compression
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 3:50am

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This was pretty well shot, but I'm going to have to go against the flow here and say that I didn't think the acting was very good at all. Especially the girl. She flags down the car, then is scared stiff when the guy starts talking to her after she accepts the ride? Ok... Definitely better acting than most movies in the cinema, but not top notch by far.

Also, pretty predictable. I also thought she was going to turn out to be the killer, but that's too cliche, so I'm glad that wasn't it. Kinda leaves you guessing as to what happens to her.

However, the guy does say "Don't worry, this won't hurt" and starts walking faster towards her, when he find the animal. So if your intention was to make it turn out that he wasn't the killer, that line completely blew it. But it does kinda leave the audience guessing. It also doesn't make sense that he would ask her to come out of the car to help with the animal, and then say "you might want to close your eyes for this, it's not going to be pretty." rather than just telling her to get back in the car. If he was indeed the Sheriff, I think he would have done it himself anyway. Especially since he's a big burly guy.

Since it looked pretty, and had decent audio and plot, I'll give it a 3/5. Sorry I couldn't give it more, but I don't feel it's worth a 5 at all, unless we were only judging movies on how they looked, which actually seems like what a lot of people do.
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 4:32am

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I'm going to have to agree with Aculag, here. Although I think it deserves higher than a 3/5, I do feel that there are something missing here. Many people have covered some of the actions in question, such as the woman grabbing the gun out of her gun compartment. This seems a bit too forced. Its as if she knows she's going to come across a man who could possibly be a brutal murderer. I think that the man, Tom, did a decent job in acting;however, the girl, as others have noted, seems to become a bittoo nervous too fast. This is by no means a mediocre movie, and in my opinion, one of the best on this site. However, there are still things to improve upon.

In terms of quality of video, I think you have done a fine job. There are a variety of camera angles as well fitting music in sync with well placed dramatic camera shots and movements. My only criticism is of a couple shots done by hand. Although the shots didn't shake that much to be distracting to a common viewer, I myself am not a fan of the slightest bit of shaky camera unless there is some kind of significant action. Little things like this take away from the realism for me, but this is a minor flaw. Really I only bring that up because I can't think of much else to correct. A steadicam (if you don't already have one) in my opinion would be a great investment for you, as you are obviously a very talented film maker.

My question for you concerns your lighting setup. If you lit this, what was your setup? Also, fabulous mic you have - would you be so kind as to share what it is?

I hope you continue create quality movies such as these, and am looking forward to your zombie flick. wink
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This was shot pretty well, and its biggest asset was definetely the sound. Top marks on that. I wasn't too shocked or held on the edge of my seat by the acting or the general idea of the film. Although it could have been filmed a lot worse in most scenarios - I appreciate the very good job you've done with the 'who was it/simple' script.

I did enjoy it, the editing was nicely placed together, the acting was solid and although some bits in the dialogue allowed for it all to make sense. It was overall.. a 4/5 for me.

It's quite obvious you've got the skill.. I hope your next project is on it's way and is more ambitious! biggrin
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I pretty much agree everything that aculag said. One thing that bothered me was how he never mentions to her that hes the sheriff. Wouldnt a cop tell you that right off the bat?? The girl was a little too over scared and worried, it kinda came off as fake (In the car). She did a good job in the bar. Other than that it was shot well and sound was good.
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Thanks for the comments guys. I don't know, I actually liked Amber's performance, considering the amount of time she had to switch gears in. A 5 minute movie is hard to accomplish a plot and story in. If it's anyones fault, it is my own, I directed her after all. Food for thought next time! As for the gun in the glovebox-I agreed with a comment made that she should have found the gun in Tom's glovebox-That would have been a much better fit. Interestingly enough, while doing research for this I discovered that nearly 80% of gun owners keep a gun in their car. I thought that was pretty fascinating.
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All I have to say about the sound in this is MICHAEL GRIEG-he was my sound God. He used wireless lavs in the car and a Sennhieser boom in the Lodge, and for all exterior shots. He did a tremendous job. Like I said previously-YES there is plenty to improve on. Movies are about telling stories, and that's what I'm really trying to improve on is making something that people want to watch. I am currently uploading some TEST clips (quite rough quality) of some storyboarded shots for the zombie film-hope you guys can help me with any suggestions! Thanks!
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I think the gun should have been kept in a road-safety kit or something that she keeps in her trunk, you know, just for emergencies.
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Wow, I loved this. Great story, compared to what is usually seen on here. I also liked the shot selection, and I thought the green tint was a nice final touch. Five stars definitely. smile

You said that the music is public domain. Where did you get it?
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jstow222 wrote:

I think the gun should have been kept in a road-safety kit
Hehe road safety kit, yup it's always handy to have a beretta stashed beside your highway code wink
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So, can we expect some kind of sequel to answer our questions?
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Don't you think explaining it all in a sequel is a bit stupid Timmy? The way this movie was engineered (as the creator has stated) was to keep it a mystery and let the audience draw their own conclusion.
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Hmmm. Yes, that does make a little more sense. Oh, btw, ITS TIM! unsure
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weird, because your name is Timmy
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Rating: +1

TIM's sig: wrote:

TimmyD
Alrighty now, If you are going to refer to me by name in a post, it is not "timmy". It is "Tim". My screenname is like that because it sounds better. I mean, what kind of name it TimD? Really? So remember, Posts: Its Tim. Phhh.
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Obviously I didn't care enough to read that.
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Waser wrote:

weird, because your name is Timmy
But like my sig says, it sounds better than TimD. Phhh
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If it sounds better, why go by Tim, timmy?
That reminds me, from now on, my name is Cellar Door because it sounds better than Waser. So if you call me waser for some odd reason I'm gonna have to lay one of these down on ya unsure

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Rawree wrote:

Obviously I didn't care enough to read that.
I have a lot of spare time. unsure
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I want to be referred to as "Jurgen the Happy Police Elk". If that's okay.
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Please from now on refer to me as "Derek, Supreme Elderflower Overlord".
Posted: Wed, 5th Jan 2005, 10:16pm

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Aculag wrote:

This was pretty well shot, but I'm going to have to go against the flow here and say that I didn't think the acting was very good at all. Especially the girl. She flags down the car, then is scared stiff when the guy starts talking to her after she accepts the ride? Ok... Definitely better acting than most movies in the cinema, but not top notch by far.

Also, pretty predictable. I also thought she was going to turn out to be the killer, but that's too cliche, so I'm glad that wasn't it. Kinda leaves you guessing as to what happens to her.

However, the guy does say "Don't worry, this won't hurt" and starts walking faster towards her, when he find the animal. So if your intention was to make it turn out that he wasn't the killer, that line completely blew it. But it does kinda leave the audience guessing. It also doesn't make sense that he would ask her to come out of the car to help with the animal, and then say "you might want to close your eyes for this, it's not going to be pretty." rather than just telling her to get back in the car. If he was indeed the Sheriff, I think he would have done it himself anyway. Especially since he's a big burly guy.

Since it looked pretty, and had decent audio and plot, I'll give it a 3/5. Sorry I couldn't give it more, but I don't feel it's worth a 5 at all, unless we were only judging movies on how they looked, which actually seems like what a lot of people do.
Aculag pretty much put my opinion into words there...
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 12:28am

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Two_Gunned saint wrote:

I want to be referred to as "Jurgen the Happy Police Elk". If that's okay.

Rawree wrote:

Please from now on refer to me as "Derek, Supreme Elderflower Overlord".
Alright now its getting old. unsure
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 3:05am

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The music actually all came from the PBS newstation here in Montana. I worked at the station as a program switcher and have rights to all the music. They have quite an extensive library, most of it is pretty cheesy, but it really comes in handy when it comes to actually "owning" the rights to your films and being able to sell it or submit it anywhere without the threats of lawsuits.
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 12:10pm

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I'm suprised how skilfully you connected suspense and location. I love films set in these countryside areas, it creates an impression that there's no one there to help. The length was spot-on. In many cases with FXHOME films, I find myself skipping bits, but I watched that from beggining to end and I was impressed at its professional feel.

All in all, you should set this as a foundation for all your future projects. All you can do now is build upwards wink
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 4:00pm

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I couldn't say anything wich hasn't been said before.

The film looks great, the actors are very well casted and the mood of the film is good throughout. I especially liked the pacing.

I agree that the girl overacted her fear wich made it seem less professional then it should have, but that didn't really boher me enough to be a major downfall.

And I also knew pretty quickly how the film probably was going to end. Not sure of that makes it "predictable" or if you just had the bad luck that I thought the same as you did while writing it. smile


5 from me.

Btw I've seen you've voted on films in the cinema but haven't yet commented on many.

Since you're looking for comments / advice and obviously know your stuff, it would only be fair to do the same... wink
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 7:33pm

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Thanks alot Solithar-You're absolutely right, I haven't been doing enough posting or rating other movies-I'm still pretty new to this, it took me the longest time to even figure out how to submit a film -just got my first computer a few years ago-so I will be alot better from here on out. Thanks for the compliments. I have been a huge fan of your work-I really watched a lot of your stuff to get ideas on how to accomplish effects.
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 7:45pm

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Thanks TommyB-Yes I really am trying to build upwards for my next project-A 20 minute Zombie flick-I posted some test clips we shot from the storyboards-these are not the final shots by any means, but meant as a test so I can get feedback on what can be done better or differently. Thanks again!
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 10:48pm

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Most proffesional acting on the site, and visually ties with all of the best (Solly's new work and JC's stuff.) It was very unexpected. This will go on my top 10, 5/5, nothing to fix. I could see this on TV and watch it as well. And enjoy it. It was ver unexpected. So was the sherrif the slasher?
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 10:56pm

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I'm afraid i'm going to break from the Status Quo on this.

I thought this was OK, but technical flaws really put a dampener on things for me.

When someone is able to create something as professional and accomplished as this, its time to stop messing around with sugar-coated, fence-sitting reviews that the amateurs get and just take criticism on the chin.

At the beginning, the audio levels of the radio news-caster were great, even the trickier accoustic of a conversation between people in/outside of the truck was good.
Then suddenly, "My names Tom...." WHAMO!. The subwoofer in my hifi had a field day. Birds were thrown off their pirches in neighbouring towns, Barry White looked positively timid by comparison. What the hell is going on with the sound here?

Giving you the benefit of the doubt, i was assuming that you'd upped the levels to accent how intimidating his voice might seem to the passenger, but it was still totally out of place. Where was the sound of the car, or the road? Even in films where vehicles are intended to be nearly silent, you can always here a sound of driving. Its one of those essential psychological methods which ensures the viewer feels part of his/her surroundings.

For such an increasingly scary scene, i didn't feel that the camera techniques or cuts reflected the gravity of the situation as it must have appeared to the female hitch hiker. There felt like a lot of very long, tedious shots where rather little hapenned.

This was most apparent at the end. From the moment that it faded up into the girl running into the building, i felt distinctly underwhelmed by the beginning of the scene. I think this was because the camera movement seemed completely unrelated to the character interaction. It was neither in keeping with her confusion and fear, nor did it lean towards the other school of thought of 'simplistic horror' where the camera behaves so bluntly that you're stunned into shock.

Instead there were pleasant, agreeable, smooth pans and wide angle shots - little focusing on the undoubtedly horrified face of the hapless girl. (lots of the back and side of her head though!). It picked up as she realises who Tom was, but by this point the pace had already fizzled out.

I don't mean to pick your masterpiece to shreds....well....i do, but i'm doing it coz its for your own good, ok? some day you'll thank me [insert parentism here] etc razz

But seriously, despite my criticism its excellent work. 4.
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 11:08pm

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Hey xcession-I actually REALLY appreciate the constructive criticism-By no means is this a masterpiece-I have MUCH to improve on-You're right about the audio problem in the car-the Lav was placed on his chest and we got some definite bass that we had not anticipated on. Unable to reshoot, I did the best that I could with it. Also, the camera angles-Once again you have a terrific eye for this stuff!!!I actually cut out 39 shots(alot of canted angles, etc. that would have helped the mood of the film) 3 days before shooting when I discovered that we would have Deano(Tom) only one day instead of 2. So yes, you are absolutely right. Things could always be better-but then again that's why we continue to make more and more films, so we can all get better! Thanks again for the constuctive criticism-it helps alot.
Posted: Thu, 6th Jan 2005, 11:11pm

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Thanks much Serpent-as for the sheriff being the slasher...I don't know...was he? The films intent-even the title-deals with psychological guessing and overguessing-It was never my intent to really reveal who the killer was, but to let you come up with your own prognosis!
Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2005, 12:06am

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Good stuff, nice feel. I did not experience any audio problems (I have crappy monitor mounted speakers on this thing) but will beam it downstairs to hear it on the living room setup for giggles.


Overall, I was thoughtfully entertained!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!!!1
Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2005, 3:59pm

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It sounded slightly weird, but I guessed it was the audio codec rather than the film itself.

One thing that I try and advise everyone to do on here is keep the audio CLEAN. If your camera makes loads of noise then record voices with a separate device (e.g. MP3 player) and sync in post.
Posted: Fri, 7th Jan 2005, 6:07pm

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amazing, everything was amazing. The acting, plot, suspence factor. I gave it a 5. Best movie on here probly. Truly eyeopening. eek
Posted: Sat, 8th Jan 2005, 3:10am

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Thank you filmfreak-i really appreciate it-there's much to be improved upon, and hopefully with my next project I'll be able to step it up another notch for myself.I've gotten a lot of wonderful suggestions from this community that could have made this film so much better! Hopefully with my next project I'll be able to get some feedback before production so that I can truly have a polished final!
Posted: Sat, 8th Jan 2005, 7:05am

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This post is long - because, as you said it's your first effort and have a lot to say about it! Ok here we go:

I generally liked the cinematography - it was shot beautifully for the most part. To compliment that, the acting was superb. The two main actors did a great job and even the older woman at the end played her small role believably.

Sound quality was very good in my opinion.

Good choices in locations and color correction/lighting as well. That dirt road was money and shooting there was a solid choice (though if you're going to use the snowy christmas thing - make it believeable...I didn't see any indication of snow or extreme cold) The house felt warm and safe - good lighting.

Maybe I'm missing something - and please correct me if I'm wrong - but I watched the beginning a bunch of times and I can't figure out why this woman has a loaded gun just chillin in her glove box. It was kind of distracting to me because I kept waiting for that to be explained. (My film Fallen Angel has a similar problem - that's partly why I recognized that mistake). She looked kind of like Jodie Foster in Silence of the Lambs so I immediately thought FBI or Police when she whipped out the Beretta 9...but she wouldn't have flipped like that if she was a blue. I think you lost a lot of the surprise and intensity when you dwelled on the gun right away. It could be played with some more, but I dunno...unless you explain why she's armed...show some restraint and set up the characters before you introduce the gun - that would have helped ease me into the story better. Maybe the gun's in Tom's car somewhere...he's a cop, right? That'd make more sense.

Because of that, the plot seemed kind of predictable to me. I think it's because this film was too short in my opinion...I might go so far as to call it incomplet because I thought you created a really neat conflict at the end of the film but took the easy way out and rolled credits right when it started to get good. At the end of the film, the characters felt static and undeveloped - but with a lot of potential. That made the initial worried-about-the-slasher-on-the-loose conflict too weak to drive the film. In the end though - I must say you've given us a really neat situation. I mean - to have the girl (knowing she killed this woman's husband) sitting in this woman's house...having to deal with that....to me, that situation was far more interesting and original than the simple misunderstood killing of the cop. Killing characters is easy. Take it a bit further - the cop's dead...now what does the girl do? The possibilities for brilliance are endless. You've created a situation by killing the cop that starts to get very intense once the gir's in that situation... You should play with that more and write another couple pages to really end this film on a satisfying note.

And since we're talking about the ending note: I wish that the film didn't leave us with the token coffee cup dropping on the floor. It felt cliche'd to me. Nice job otherwise with that scene, but like I said - it needed to go further than just that...

Though it looked nice and it had some strong points, the plot needed some more meat. It felt like the beginning of a good film but ended in the middle. Very good first effort though. smile
Posted: Sun, 9th Jan 2005, 4:17am

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Hey, great movie by the way. Now, how do you do that COOL title effect where the light beams through the text?? What program is that? Because I really want to know smile
Posted: Sun, 9th Jan 2005, 8:26pm

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I like how you focused on the story. To many movies I see have no real plot and you seemingly fit an entire story in 5 minutes. Very well done. Also the plot was a-typical but i love how you made it your own. In the future. I f you could stick with plot befor action I thihnk youll do well.
Posted: Mon, 10th Jan 2005, 3:29am

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eek yall beat Art of the Saber in the archive.... WELL DONE!! now Im gonna hafta see it.
Posted: Tue, 11th Jan 2005, 7:43pm

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Sorry guys, had to take down the links. If interested as to why you can pm me, or if you would like me to ftp you the file, that's possible also. Thank you for all the insight.