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Compositing Together 3D Elements

Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 1:24am

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Is it possible to render out different layers from a 3D app and composite them together in Chromanator? Or, is that more suited for somethign like After Effects?

If so, does anyone have any examples of the results of that process??

Thanks...
Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 1:28am

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Of course it's possible. It's totally possible.
Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 1:30am

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That is, in fact, the whole point of Chromanator.
Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 1:33am

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Tarn, I don't know if this is out of place, but is there any possibility that you can merge 2 or more layers to animate at the same time?
Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 1:36am

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Well, I wasn't sure if it was just greenscreen video that can be composited.

Maybe you guys can throw up a tut on the steps to do that??
Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2005, 9:42pm

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Why dont you look at the tutes, and use your mind to use the skills taught to you from the tutes, and figure it out. It's just masking.
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 12:21am

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Wow! Rough crowd...

I guess I'll check out the tuts and figure it out.
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 12:26am

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Don't mind Timmy, he hasn't been fed in a few days....

If you can give a few specifics then I might be able to help. Are you just talking generally or about a specific 3D app? and do you mean layers like Background, Big Space ship, Small foreground fighter ships kinda thing or are you talking about diffuse pass, reflection pass, specular pass?
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 12:27am

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bobzilla wrote:

Wow! Rough crowd...

I guess I'll check out the tuts and figure it out.
Sorry bout that, bad day. Howabout bad WEEK. No hard feelings? hugegrin
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 12:37am

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Basically, Chromanator can create complex garbage matte's of any video you put into it, and then can composite any other video you put into that. It's a truely versatile program.

Using 3d you're creating to composite makes things easier for you, as you should be able to render with alpha. smile
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 3:16pm

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bobzilla

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Hi, guys...

No problems here. I guess I should have also been more specific.

The 3D app I'm using is Cinema 4D. A typical scene would be between probabbly 1 to 3 characters, a landscape, and maybe a water element.

Figuring it would be easier to render out the elements separately then putting them together in a compositing app.

I'm on a Mac and the only other app I looked at was After Effects but it's pretty expensive and I don't really need most of the motion grpahics part of the app, just the compositing features.

And since it's been mentioed, can Chromanator put together, beauty, diffuse, reflection, etc. passes, as well?

Thanks again. I know these are pretty basic questions and I appreciate the time you guys take to answer them.
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 3:26pm

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Chromanator can grade, to an extent, mask, key, and animate layers. It also supports layer transarency. Why dont you download the demo and screw around with it. That's what i did, no tutes or anything, and i figured it out.
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 3:32pm

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As Hybrid says, if you can render from C4D as a tiff or targa sequence and store the Alpha channel then it's just a case of dropping one element on top of the other in Chromy (Landscape, then put the water on and then some characters and maybe some particle effects) and that's all there is to it as the alpha channel will automatically separate the geometry or particles from the background (if that makes sense)
Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 3:37pm

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bobzilla

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That all makes perfect sense.

Yes, I can render alphas, TIFF, TARGA.

I'll download the demo and give it a whirl.

Thanks again for all the info!

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Posted: Sat, 15th Jan 2005, 9:00pm

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Let us know if you have any questions about it after trying the demo!

Also bear in mind that Chromy is going to have a pretty big upgrade soon, that will improve the interface as well as add a few features. The upgrade will be free to users, though, so there's no need to hold off if you do like it. smile