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Airsoft Guns

Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 5:26pm

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Hi, I am purchasing some airsoft pistols off of amazon.com, and I was wondering if any of you guys could recomend which one to pick. Under 40 dollars limit.
Thanks in advance!
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 6:06pm

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Well. It all depends on what you want to do I suppose..

If you just want a basic pistol... then pick one under 40 bucks and use it...It's not like your going to need to actually fire the thing.

But.. If you are playing James Bond then you really need either a Walther PPK or PP9..

If you are playing an SAS trooper, then an mp5k is really the only choice (although, I did note you specified pistol)

If you are filming a vietnam piece i guess an m16 or an ar-15..

If you are filming a ww2 epic then really, a colt or a browning would look best..

Its your film, your prop.. what do you want to do with it...?
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 6:51pm

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http://www.jdwholesale.com/
http://www.cosmicoutfitters.com/weapons.htm
www.google.com
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 8:30pm

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jstow222 wrote:

http://www.jdwholesale.com/
http://www.cosmicoutfitters.com/weapons.htm
www.google.com
I'm really wondering if you read the post at all...
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 8:39pm

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obidean

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Well, I'm not getting the guns for firing, I just want a realistic looking pistol, that I can rely upon. I don't want the thing to snap if it gets dropped, etc..
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 9:10pm

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Marek wrote:

jstow222 wrote:

http://www.jdwholesale.com/
http://www.cosmicoutfitters.com/weapons.htm
www.google.com
I'm really wondering if you read the post at all...
Well, he wanted something under $40 so I lead him to a place where he could find one.
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 11:13pm

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Fair enough, but he wasn't asking for a place where he could get guns for under $40, as he stated that he was buying them from amazon.
Posted: Mon, 17th Jan 2005, 11:21pm

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Any UK sites for this sort of thing? All the ones I've found seem to be American and I can't see customs letting them through in a big hurry!
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 12:18am

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I thought I heard that airsoft guns were made illegal in the UK a while back... maybe not. I'm a little fuzzy on the topic. I seem to remember reading something like that here a year or so ago.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 12:33am

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Marek wrote:

Fair enough, but he wasn't asking for a place where he could get guns for under $40, as he stated that he was buying them from amazon.
If there are better options why not use them?

UK sites: http://www.wolfarmouries.co.uk/airsoft/bb/sitemap/airsoft_gun_uk.htm
http://www.whipperleys.co.uk/acatalog/bb_guns_airsoft_guns.html
http://www.fire-support.co.uk/links.htm

You are right rcamuk, there are not nearly as many UK sites and they are not as good as most of the US sites. Hope thos ones help anyways.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 1:01pm

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I'm in America..I would use the better places, but this is an amazon gift certificate..so I am limited. confused
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 1:08pm

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Hi, I have a couple of questions. If I do fire the guns, then will I only need to have the pellets? Or do I need some kind of gas? Airsoft Guns are alright to shoot at eachother with right? This is my first experience with Airsoft products. Thanks!
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 1:29pm

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I had the opportunity to mess around with an airsoft gun recently and they are alright to shoot at each other if it is very controlled and there is eye protection. They do shoot pretty fast, some even faster than the ones I used i would assume. In all actuallity though, I wouldnt shoot them at each other. For safety, and the mess those pellets make. Its discusting really.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 3:36pm

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what do you mean disgusting? Aren't they empty? Anyways, I am mainly getting them because they look good, and they are nice and cheap..
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 4:59pm

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Not so much messy depending on the type of ammunition you buy. Most Airsoft pistols and rifles have different size Barrels that allow for Multiple Types of BB's. Anything ranging from 6mm plastic pellets, 6mm Steel Pellets, or even 6mm paint filled rounds. So when its comes to messes yea you can have one if you buy paint rounds for whatever Airsoft you buy.

I personally am a James Bond fan and happen to have Airsoft replicas of a Whalther PPK and PP9.

Though to fire rounds Airsofts can vary ofcourse. Whether you have to manually cock the gun by pulling the slide back and then getting one shot off then have to cock again. Or there are ones that use compressed air like a super soaker in which you have to pump them and get a few shots out of them. Then the others types are ones mentioned earlier require CO2 tanks. Becareful when handling Airsofts that use CO2 and have Gas blow backs or you may end up with an injured thumb without having the proper hand placement posture on certain firearms.

As for saftey issues all of them have there quarks. When done properly yea Airsofts can be safe to fire upon other willing and properly attired persons for the sake of whatever film your making. But if you have alam dv i dont see why you would feel the need to fire the weapons with live ammo other then for blood spatter effects with 6mm red paint filled bb's.
Aside from airsoft guns with gas blow back you not going to get a hollywood style slide action of pistols , for example, in a real semi automatic fire style. Where every time you pull the trigger the slide pulls the next BB into the barrel.

But then again common sense has to come into play when dealing with firing Actual Airsoft guns.


I've managed to ramble on but need less to say for 20$ you can get a Whalther P99 that can pull the slide , release the weighted clip etc... you can even buy after market silencers for airsoft pistols like i did for my James Bond effect. Its a nice over all Prop looks and feels like the real thing. A lot of fun can be had for movies espcially with the slide lock switch as well.

I found it on amazon.com and its decked out with a lot of tactical features which are detachable ofcourse if you want a stock looking pistol. It doesnt require CO2 for it has a manual cocking slide and comes with a lil starter pack of 200 yellow plastic BB's

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00019T4AC/ref=pd_sim_sg_4/103-8533025-4039044?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 9:21pm

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All of the air soft guns I have bought at spring fire. Meaning when you cock the gun it pulls a spring back with it. When you fire it releases and the pellet comes out. When I am using air soft guns in my movies I don't make my actors cock them. Since they are spring fire you would have to cock them every time and it doesn't look real. I just make them pretend to shoot it and i add in flashes and sounds. Also if they shoot it the sound of the spring releasing is proving it's not a real gun and it is hard to edit out.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 9:22pm

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Cybershark my friend got the gun you are talking about with all of the features. Not so good for an air soft war but great for film. You also have to spray paint the orange ends. It's illegal here in the US, but they never get you in trouble.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 11:12pm

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Is there going to be a problem shipping an airsoft gun to New York?
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 11:13pm

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Also, are these guns dependable? I mean they won't break in a matter of weeks..?
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 12:47am

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Dependability really depends on how you use them. If you use them for airsoft wars then they will break soon. If you are just filming with them they are fine. For really good ones buy the heavy versions. The heavy ones are partially made out of metal. So the barrels won't break off etc. One problem i have with my m4 is that it is really easy to break off the barrel. I think two of mine have had the barrel broken off by someone accidentaly sitting on it. So it just depends on what you are using it for. Also there are two types of ammo .2 and i'm not sure about the other one but some guns will only work with that specification so check before you just randomly stick ammo into them because it'll tear them up. I know you have an amazon gift card so use it for this time, but if you get any more in the future go to www.shortyusa.com that's where i get all of mine and they are really dependable. New York should be no problem I live in Atlanta and they always get to me in 3-4 days. Hope it all goes well.
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 1:58pm

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Whoah! Thanks so much! Those guns on www.shortyusa.com were amazing! I think that I should just buy the guns off of that site, and give the certificate to dad to use for his shopping.
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 9:53pm

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No problem I love the stuff they have there
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 10:18pm

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Um, I have (another) question, does shortyusa have any problems with shipping to New York?
Posted: Wed, 19th Jan 2005, 10:43pm

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http://fxhome.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16907

Check the links. Check the sites. Ask the companies about shipping.

It's quite simple.
Posted: Thu, 20th Jan 2005, 12:46am

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For the most part I believe your lucking out on Airsoft Shipments to New York.

"Airsoft gun use is currently banned in New Jersey and within the city limits of New York City, as well as portions of the state of Michigan. With the increasing popularity of Airsoft guns, many reported incidents have occurred in which generally younger players have come into contact in public areas with local law enforcement unsure of the nature of the Airsoft weapons involved. In the future, these incidents will certainly increase and perhaps result in new legal consequences. This is to be expected and is completely understandable from a law enforcement perspective."

cited from: http://www.airgun.org/articles/historyofbb.html

Take into consideration where and how your filming scenes with Replica Weapons which ofcourse goes without saying. Law Enforcement Agencies will not differentiate between a real firearm and an airsoft gun. This could put you in situations with real guns being drawn against you and big problems... specially in NY if you aquire Airsoft products. If your filming in local areas or outside of your own home for that matter you may want to go to the police station and get permission from them for filming where ever.

I had to get Police involvement / permission for a Vietnam project I did when I was in highschool. All of which involved filming of M16's and some small controlled explosionsin some different woodland areas. An officer was on site durning the filming of it. The Police department and the Cities cooperation helped my film a lot by opening up some of the limitations of filming areas.

So when all is said and done and you do your Home Work on your states laws enjoy yourself and becareful.

-Cyber-