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Chromanator expiring protection

Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 12:41am

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The Thinker

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I'd like to buy chromanator in future (I have already alamdv2 and I love it), but I dislike the protection of this software, 'cause I like to burn all the softwares on cds to preserve them, and an expiring version can't be burned. Also I think that many users can't have always an internet connection to download updates or they don't have to depend from it, to use a software they have bought.
I understand fxhome.com that could go out of business if their softwares will be copied through internet, but I think a better solution for the final user and for fxhome have to be find.
My idea is to do in future a normal protection only for the last version of 1.0 when chromanator 2.0 will be out. So the people who bought licence for chromanator 1.0 will have as the last update a non expiring version. And the people who get chromanaotor 2.0 will have to download the new version every month to continue using their own (that expire), until chromanor 3.0 will be out ecc....
So fxhome can't go out of business, cause old versions aren't supported by fxhome, and new versions will have new features and will be protected by piracy

What do you think or suggest?

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Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 1:31am

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It's hardly an inconvenience for the user-mass to download something once in a while.which essentially covers our own asses and secures the future of the company.

I think you're just being totally lazy.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 3:30am

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You don't need to back up Chromy: great thing about CSB products, becauseyou can redownload it from the site. Unless you lose internet because you don't want it, I understand. BTW, burning bought software to a CD is illegal, I think. But regardless, you don't need to back up Chromy.

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Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 10:01am

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The Thinker does have a valid point. I know it's early on to think about this, but what if a totally new Chromanator version comes out which people have to pay for, & they want to continue using the previous version?

With the current system, I don't mind. If you bought the software online then it's not as if you can't find a way to access the internet to download the update. Because at the end of the day, CSB are a small company & if they didn't have these copy-protection procedures then potentially they wouldn't be able to offer these products.

Serpent, you're wrong. With most software (unless it has anti-copy cd protection), people can make 1 backup copy on cd of any software they own. Which I think is wise to do.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 10:41pm

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To think about:

What if these copies are going on seperate non-networked computers? This would be a severe inconvieniance for the person to have to update every 3 months. I know it is definitely an inconvieniance for my TV teacher. He sparingly installs updates to programs and drivers on several of our computers in the tv studio because it is very annoying to have to set each computer up every time.
Posted: Tue, 18th Jan 2005, 10:52pm

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Backing up a new version every month or so really can't be *that* inconvenient can it? Think about it:
Blank CDs cost very little (you could even buy a re-writable "Chromanator Disk" and just overwrite each time)
The installers are tiny. Even someone on dialup shouldn't be hassled by a download of that size every month or 2
The internet can be accessed almost anywhere. With most computers having a CD burner (at least) it shouldn't really be a problem to download a copy to a cd from an internet cafe or library (I'm sure they'd let you if you explained).

Really it's not that much to worry about if it keeps the product safe.
Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 9:07pm

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Now, as I'm writing this, I'll put it out there that I am frustrated because I just updated Chromanator and it's being a pain and not accepting my key, so while I'm waiting for a new one to be sent I'm gonna complain. biggrin

I think if it's an incoveniance at all, which it clearly is to at least some people including me, it's a bad thing. How many programs are you using right now, that not just reminds you of an update that you can download, but actually restricts you from using an older version? That seems a bit ridiculous to me, are CSB really a huge target for pirates?

My video computer is my laptop, which is hardly, if ever hooked up to the internet. Yes I have the internet at my house and can get the updates, but I don't use Chromanator every day. I can't wait til the day when haven't worked with it for a couple months, I'm out shooting something away from my house and want to mess around with it in Chromanator and lo and behold! The software I bought has locked me out!
Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 11:21pm

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They ahve run in to plenty of pirates, and if it gets out, they can be shut down due to the "smallness" of their company. The only way I can see this as a problem is if you planned to stop using internet connections.
Posted: Fri, 28th Jan 2005, 11:42pm

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It's not a point of whether they are a big target for pirates, it's the fact that even a small ammount of piracy can have a huge effect on a small company.

If they need to sell say 20 copies a week to stay in profit (I dunno if this is the case but it works well for the example) and the software is easy to pirate then they almost certainly wouldn't sell as many copies, wouldn't make a profit (and so would begin to lose money) and would have to stop producing software. Companies like Adobe can afford to put up with piracy as they have far more customers and charge a lot more money, if 20 people pirate AE then it's not a big deal to Adobe but if 20 people pirate Alam it is a big deal.

Basically I think that this is some people moaning about a problem that has not and may never occur. If a situation ever arises when you are without an internet connection just as you need to get the new update then I think it will be of greater significance.